Is This Ramus Short?

[PubertyMaxxer]

Besides not being straight is it short?

 

[needsolution]

cant see
Chico ramus or death

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

cant see
Chico ramus or death

 

[Deleted member 2745]

Take a normal side profile picture

 

[needsolution]

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too short

 

[Deleted member 2745]

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Like short in what Sense, compared to salludon ya it's fucking short,.but barrette Still looks good with short ramus

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

Like short in what Sense, compared to salludon ya it's fucking short,.but barrette Still looks good with short ramus

So a jaw angle implant wont really make a difference

 

[Deleted member 2745]

So a jaw angle implant wont really make a difference

I would worry more about the Chin

 

[Deleted member 3043]

average

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

I would worry more about the Chin

Do i have paranasal reccession? Or do i lack upwards growth of the maxilla?

 

[DutchPrettyBoy]

short-average

 

[garfyld]

Average

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

short-average

Average

Would a jaw angle implant ascend me? Lower gonial amgle and longer more defined squarish ramus?

 

[retard]

average, but average is short/underdeveloped

Would a jaw angle implant ascend me? Lower gonial amgle and longer more defined squarish ramus?

put your molars together boyo, your ramus will improve a lot in like 6 months

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

average, but average is short/underdeveloped

put your molars together boyo, your ramus will improve a lot in like 6 months

Cope have been doing that already

 

[DutchPrettyBoy]

Would a jaw angle implant ascend me? Lower gonial amgle and longer more defined squarish ramus?

you are still in puberty, just chew hard foods or just chew hard on any food you eat and it might increase. maybe even chew falim gum with water tbh. would look for implants when you are 20+
and as others say, the ramus is not the problem its more your chin, idk what is wrong with it to be honest.
and also, sieg heil.

 

[retard]

Cope have been doing that already

not cope, are you sure you aren’t mouth breathing in your sleep? Lots of people do and dont realize

 

[Vidyacoper]

underdeveloped ramus
start chewing hard or get a gonial/jaw implant

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

underdeveloped ramus
start chewing hard or get a gonial/jaw implant
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@Nosecel

 

[Nosecel]

@Nosecel

Just get surgery bro

 

[retard]

underdeveloped ramus
start chewing hard or get a gonial/jaw implant
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this is a example of correlation not being causation, large muscles develop if you have your teeth together, intermediate is if you don’t have them together but not mouth breathing and small muscles is mouth breathing when you legit just let your jaw hang with 0 muscle tension taking place in the massesters, the muscle it’s self has nothing to do with how the jaw develops it’s just a byproduct

 

[Vidyacoper]

this is a example of correlation not being causation, large muscles develop if you have your teeth together, intermediate is if you don’t have them together but not mouth breathing and small muscles is mouth breathing when you legit just let your jaw hang with 0 muscle tension taking place in the massesters, the muscle it’s self has nothing to do with how the jaw develops it’s just a byproduct

yeah youre just making your own theories

 

[retard]

yeah youre just making your own theories

no mouth breathers always have very short ramuses/high gonial with no exceptions, I’m sure there are mouth breathers who chew more therefor leading to bigger masseters just like there is a distribution of masseter strength in non mouth breathers, but u will never find a mouth breather with a good ramus unless they clench their teeth during sleep or something

 

[Vidyacoper]

no mouth breathers always have very short ramuses/high gonial with no exceptions, I’m sure there are mouth breathers who chew more therefor leading to bigger masseters just like there is a distribution of masseter strength in non mouth breathers, but u will never find a mouth breather with a good ramus unless they clench their teeth during sleep or something

mouth breathers always have high gonial, youre right on that, but there isnt a correlation between your ramus size/development and mouth breathing.

the only difference between these 3 is their ramus development
if one was a mouthbreather the gonial angle would be completely different, it would be easy to tell from downward growth
and you don't just get large muscle csa from keeping your teeth together lol

for example look at this dude, very well developed ramus yet shitty gonial angle and recessed maxilla

 

[retard]

mouth breathers always have high gonial, youre right on that, but there isnt a correlation between your ramus size/development and mouth breathing.
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the only difference between these 3 is their ramus development
if one was a mouthbreather the gonial angle would be completely different, it would be easy to tell from downward growth
and you don't just get large muscle csa from keeping your teeth together lol
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for example look at this dude, very well developed ramus yet shitty gonial angle and recessed maxilla

Your oral posture isn’t set in stone for life, most likely had bruxism when younger and then got it treated resulting in a mandible downswing, but his welldeveloped ramus wouldn’t just evaporate even if his jaw downswings, it can go both ways, reminds me of that kid who is associated with orthotropics who was well developed and than started mouth breathing due to allergies and his face melted

 

[SayNoToRotting]

this is a example of correlation not being causation, large muscles develop if you have your teeth together, intermediate is if you don’t have them together but not mouth breathing and small muscles is mouth breathing when you legit just let your jaw hang with 0 muscle tension taking place in the massesters, the muscle it’s self has nothing to do with how the jaw develops it’s just a byproduct

The image does indeed show correlation, but this theory right here is completely pulled out of your ass.

 

[retard]

The image does indeed show correlation, but this theory right here is completely pulled out of your ass.

your bones will grow in the way they are directed to, mouth breathing=Jaw in downswung position = it will grow downwards, the ramus is like a hinge, there is 0 reason it would ever develop if there is no required movement because the jaws are always completely apart, your body sees 0 reason to develop bone because you didn’t prompt it to with anything

 

[Vidyacoper]

Your oral posture isn’t set in stone for life, most likely had bruxism when younger and then got it treated resulting in a mandible downswing, but his welldeveloped ramus wouldn’t just evaporate even if his jaw downswings, it can go both ways, reminds me of that kid who is associated with orthotropics who was well developed and than started mouth breathing due to allergies and his face melted

no he probably just had bruxism/chewed a lot and was a mouthbreather at the same time (mouthbreathing during developmental phases probably)

 

[retard]

no he probably just had bruxism/chewed a lot and was a mouthbreather at the same time (mouthbreathing during developmental phases probably)

that’s possible, no really way to know for sure, there are so many combinations of jaw posture, back teeth together and front dropping, front in contact but not back teeth etc

mouth breathing it’s self isn’t bad, it’s that 95% of the people who do separate their jaws tons with their mouth wide open, you can mouth breathe and still have your molars in contact and you would develop much better than average, the pipe that your air comes in really doesn’t have an effect in its self lol

 

[Vidyacoper]

that’s possible, no really way to know for sure, there are so many combinations of jaw posture, back teeth together and front dropping, front in contact but not back teeth etc

yeah ur right theres a ton of factors for lower and upper jaw development

mouth breathing it’s self isn’t bad, it’s that 95% of the popular separates their jaws tons with their mouth wide open, you can mouth breathe and still have your molars in contact and you would develop much better than average, the pipe that your air comes in really doesn’t have an effect in its self lol

well you cant really mouth breathe if your teeth are together lol
anyway like i said, ramus size/development (including jaw width) doesn't have anything to do with your teeth being together
if your teeth are together that just means you won't have any downward growth

for example:

this girl has perfect forward growth of the lower jaw, developed perfectly and has almost zero downward growth whatsoever, it's clear to see she's kept her teeth together and maybe had the tongue on the roof of her mouth (i dont really believe in mewing) for her whole life
however as you can see her ramus is extremely short, it's almost not even there

ramus development correlates only to mastication activity, and females usually also have shorter ramuses (rami?) because bone development in face is affected by testosterone/dht

 

[garfyld]

put your molars together boyo, your ramus will improve a lot in like 6 months

Bro you are right, ramus grows whole life. But still it's better to have long ramus as 20y boy
About 10 years difference, ~0.5 cm longer

 

[SayNoToRotting]

your bones will grow in the way they are directed to, mouth breathing=Jaw in downswung position = it will grow downwards, the ramus is like a hinge, there is 0 reason it would ever develop if there is no required movement because the jaws are always completely apart, your body sees 0 reason to develop bone because you didn’t prompt it to with anything

We are not talking about morphology here, we are talking about bone mass.

 

[Deleted member 6095]

Wait should your teeth be touching at all times? I've read conflicting things about how the front set should be slightly apart, but mine have been always clenched by the molars my entire life.