Is this the perfect Beginner Cycle or is there any changes to be made?

[Tippex]

TLDR: 6 Week Cycle - Anavar & MK2866

18 Year Old - 19 @ Cycle Start

Currently 84kg hoping to go up to 87 while losing fat. Probably around 17% rn.

Week 1 on 20mg of Anavar, Weeks 2-6 on 50mg per day. Split up across the day

20mg MK2866 every day for the 6 weeks. Split across day

Supplement TUDCA, NAC, Milk Thistle, Extra Omegas and Glucosamine.

Slight Calorie Surplus, lots of protein.

PCT: Nolvadex @ 20mg for 2 weeks then 10mg for a week. Keep pumping the anti-tox supps.



Considering I won’t be drinking any alc on the cycle was considering going on a microdose of 10-20mg of isotret too. Would there be any issues combining these? I don’t have acne per say more just the odd spots and some rosacea

Also perhaps Mel2, any issues with this?

 

[Tippex]

Bump

 

[GigaAryenMaxxer]

it will change nothing, to low dosage. Imo 250 test is better or dbol if you want orals

 

[Tippex]

it will change nothing, to low dosage. Imo 250 test is better or dbol if you want orals

Yeah don’t have the facilities to be doing anything other than orals rn. Will look into dbol, is there anything else I should supplement with it and should I add it to the var and mk or take it alone?

 

[GigaAryenMaxxer]

Yeah don’t have the facilities to be doing anything other than orals rn. Will look into dbol, is there anything else I should supplement with it and should I add it to the var and mk or take it alone?

dbol is KIND OF like oral testosterone so you could do dbol + var it would be similar to test + var. MK for what btw ? If its for hunger then yes but idk how you could have this problem

 

[trenace450]

You want to go to 87kg while losing fat, but also being in a caloric surplus? This is retarded and very low IQ. You cannot lose fat if you are in a surplus.
Also just run actual gear, you are wasting your time with a 6 week baby cycle of orals. You'll barely put on extra muscle and your pct sucks so you'll likely be suppressed. The perfect beginner cycle at least involves actual test

 

[trenace450]

dbol is KIND OF like oral testosterone so you could do dbol + var it would be similar to test + var. MK for what btw ? If its for hunger then yes but idk how you could have this problem

No dude, dbol aromatizes into methyl-estradiol, not bioidentical estradiol. Dbol just bloats tf out of you and damages liver, should never be run in the first place. RUN TESTOSTERONE or don't run anything at all

 

[Tippex]

You want to go to 87kg while losing fat, but also being in a caloric surplus? This is retarded and very low IQ. You cannot lose fat if you are in a surplus.
Also just run actual gear, you are wasting your time with a 6 week baby cycle of orals. You'll barely put on extra muscle and your pct sucks so you'll likely be suppressed. The perfect beginner cycle at least involves actual test

Sorry meant minimise fat, but that is also unrealistic is assume. I can’t pin now as I haven’t moved out. What about the PCT is bad? Should I run nov and clad or what? If I can’t pin should I not bother at all or what do you think?

 

[trenace450]

Sorry meant minimise fat, but that is also unrealistic is assume. I can’t pin now as I haven’t moved out. What about the PCT is bad? Should I run nov and clad or what? If I can’t pin should I not bother at all or what do you think?

If you can't pin then you should honestly just wait, or hide your stuff better. If you can hide pills, you can hide needles. Orals only is just never worth it, and you will 100% end up regretting it. I don't know a single person that hasn't regretted an oral only cycle, they always end up hopping on test anyway cause their natural production is fucked.
For PCT, you should be running nolvadex and enclomiphene. These should be run for a few weeks, until your LH and FSH levels are in normal range, obviously need to get bloodwork to check those, or just guess they're fine after like 4 weeks and hope for the best

 

[HerobrineDE]

Using Anavar without a test base makes completely no sense. Pin test or take RAD140, everything else is useless and u fuck up your hormones, lil nigga.

 

[Tippex]

If you can't pin then you should honestly just wait, or hide your stuff better. If you can hide pills, you can hide needles. Orals only is just never worth it, and you will 100% end up regretting it. I don't know a single person that hasn't regretted an oral only cycle, they always end up hopping on test anyway cause their natural production is fucked.
For PCT, you should be running nolvadex and enclomiphene. These should be run for a few weeks, until your LH and FSH levels are in normal range, obviously need to get bloodwork to check those, or just guess they're fine after like 4 weeks and hope for the best

Not worth the risk tryna hide shit. Would rad140 be an okay substitute or is it over until I can pin?

 

[trenace450]

Not worth the risk tryna hide shit. Would rad140 be an okay substitute or is it over until I can pin?

Nah, RAD-140 is ass. Pretty much all orals on the planet will just fuck your liver and suppress you. Unless you can somehow pin test, it's over in my opinion.

 

[Tippex]

Nah, RAD-140 is ass. Pretty much all orals on the planet will just fuck your liver and suppress you. Unless you can somehow pin test, it's over in my opinion.

Alright thanks bro, I’ll just wait around a bit then

 

[GigaAryenMaxxer]

No dude, dbol aromatizes into methyl-estradiol, not bioidentical estradiol. Dbol just bloats tf out of you and damages liver, should never be run in the first place. RUN TESTOSTERONE or don't run anything at all

this is I say kind of and similar. It can be used as a base and is I think the only other than test that can. Obviously test is better. I ran it as a first cycle, lost my time ngl cuz dose to low, soon pinning T

 

[trenace450]

this is I say kind of and similar. It can be used as a base and is I think the only other than test that can. Obviously test is better. I ran it as a first cycle, lost my time ngl cuz dose to low, soon pinning T

Ok so you'd run MENT because that aromatizes into methyl-estradiol as well? We need bioidentical estradiol as well as DHT, there is no test base without actual testosterone