"It takes a long time to get good" is a normie cope

[disillusioned]

"You must practice for ten thousand hours before you're good at it "
"You must write at least 10 million words before you know how to write "
"You must lift for at least 10 years before you have a killer body "
"You must..."
Etc.

Here is the real reason you'll so often hear this...

Normies are THEMSELVES trying and FAILING at a given activity, but they don't want to accept it, so they cope with this myth that getting good at something takes a very long time because it's the only way they can convince themselves that they haven't actually 'failed' yet despite having struggled for years already.

You'll hear ridiculous copes about how X person had to toil away for how many years, write how many failed books, publish how many failed songs, do whatever bs for how many years or decades etc before 'making it'. This is all horseshit.

Interestingly, I'm actually a real world example of this with my fiction writing. I started a web series a couple years ago and despite it being my first book/series (albeit I messed around rewriting it for several years before I published anything) it's already doing much better than most other fics on the site, having thousands of readers already (this is very above average, and I'm only a few hundred pages into the story). This reason for this success is that I have a good understanding of society/politics/how people behave/normie insecurites/etc. I didn't have waste time 'getting good'. I just knew what I was doing right away.

Talent > Effort

 

[RapeAllFemales]

When you do the same things over and over again, your brain eventually gets used to it unconsciously

 

[disillusioned]

When you do the same things over and over again, your brain eventually gets used to it unconsciously

This doesn't translate into getting better at it.

 

[Wexilarious]

I have a talent for absolutely everything, it is easy for me to learn anything, especially if it is interesting to me

 

[RapeAllFemales]

This doesn't translate into getting better at it.

The natural talent obviously mogs the effort, but most normies is stupid and does not try the same thing several times to improve

 

[Mr_Bombo_mogs]

Turbo BP said it better than you and gave better points

 

[Darkeningstar]

You need both
Transversal learning is not common

 

[vevcred2_0]

Makes sense

 

[Meteor21]

They're right, it's easy to be in the top 5-10% in most things simply because most wont practice it, know nothing about it. So if you practice anything for a year you'll have a huge advantage. You're still likely to suck at it tho unless you put more time in than that.

 

[Latinus]

Squidbro posts another banger.

 

[looksmaxxed]

by the same token, specialization is extremely gay and produces weak faggots that only know how to do one thing. a jack of all trades is more useful to the universe than a subject matter expert that is functionally retarded at everything else.

a savant has the luxury of focusing on shoring up his weaknesses, because no matter how much effort and time they put in, his rivals will never be able to compete with him. but most people aren't savants, they're just slightly better at certain things than others

but in general i agree that vast majority of humans aren't destined for greatness and should have no illusion about "making it big", and if they do make it, it'll be 100% luck and timing.

 

[disillusioned]

Turbo BP said it better than you and gave better points

The video author didn't debunk the blackpill at all. He basically just argued that hard work is worth if if you have an underlying talent e.g. even if you're naturally strong you still need to lift at the gym to compete professionally. This completely misses the point.

What copers like this don't understand is that they're fundamentally misunderstanding what 'hard work' actually is. 'Working' is not the same as working hard. If you're genetically predisposed for strength, you can put it 10% of the effort and still get 90% of the results. Meanwhile those who are cursed genetically will get 10% the reward for 100% effort. It's not worth it.

To say that hard work matters because talented people have to do any work at all is a nonsensical strawman and a cope.

 

[disillusioned]

by the same token, specialization is extremely gay and produces weak faggots that only know how to do one thing. a jack of all trades is more useful to the universe than a subject matter expert that is functionally retarded at everything else.

I disagree with this. Having extreme traits in one area is much more valuable. Nobody wants to hire somebody that is merely mediocre at everything. Ditto for attraction.

Which do you think would increase your chances with foids more?

a) A dude with perfectly balanced traits (height, face, body, penis size, etc) but nothing that stands out.
b) A guy that is freakishly tall, or has a good face, or a very large penis, etc.

 

[Сигма Бой]

I disagree with this. Having extreme traits in one area is much more valuable. Nobody wants to hire somebody that is merely mediocre at everything. Ditto for attraction.

Which do you think would increase your chances with foids more?

a) A dude with perfectly balanced traits (height, face, body, penis size, etc) but nothing that stands out.
b) A guy that is freakishly tall, or has a good face, or a very large penis, etc.

a)

 

[Deleted member 128620]

Some degree of inate talent and predisposition is necessary, but so is repeated practice. Lots of artists create their masterpiece after many, many years of practice. They were good to begin with but even then it was necessary to work for it.
Do you learn everything as if you were competing against the very best in that field or do you do things for fun? It's not necessary to have some great inborn talent to learn things and get enjoyment out of it jfl. I don't understand your mentality whatsoever all of your posts are doom and gloom. You must be severely mentally ill.

 

[disillusioned]

a)

Then where are all the bland normie men picking up girls? And betabucks doesn't count.

 

[Azim]

yeah ofc

when i talk to people who do what i do i can always tell within like 5 mins of talking if they have potential to succeed or not

 

[Сигма Бой]

Then where are all the bland normie men picking up girls? And betabucks doesn't count.

Assuming an inferior nigger to receive more whores just becorse he has 1 exceeding future is cope.

 

[snowbunnypolice]

the moment a field gets competitive you have to work hard. Talent is not that rare accept this fact.

None of you guys have been remotely competitive in anything you’ve done so you don’t realize what it takes.

 

[disillusioned]

Assuming an inferior nigger to receive more whores just becorse he has 1 exceeding future is cope.

He can insofar as he doesn't have some massive failo e.g. short height or ugly face. I remember reading an article about the guy with the world's largest known dick (at the time, at least), and he said he got laid all the time because of it, despite just being some bland normie who was borderline overweight. It's the same story with other guys who would be normie if it wasn't for some one specific trait e.g. very tall.

 

[m0ss26]

the moment a field gets competitive you have to work hard. Talent is not that rare accept this fact.

None of you guys have been remotely competitive in anything you’ve done so you don’t realize what it takes.

This has to be about wrestling cause bro every nigga that places at state is a grinder, even those that don’t

 

[William Anderson]

Where do you think talent comes from genius?

 

[acertyxx_]

"You must practice for ten thousand hours before you're good at it "
"You must write at least 10 million words before you know how to write "
"You must lift for at least 10 years before you have a killer body "
"You must..."
Etc.

Here is the real reason you'll so often hear this...

Normies are THEMSELVES trying and FAILING at a given activity, but they don't want to accept it, so they cope with this myth that getting good at something takes a very long time because it's the only way they can convince themselves that they haven't actually 'failed' yet despite having struggled for years already.

You'll hear ridiculous copes about how X person had to toil away for how many years, write how many failed books, publish how many failed songs, do whatever bs for how many years or decades etc before 'making it'. This is all horseshit.

Interestingly, I'm actually a real world example of this with my fiction writing. I started a web series a couple years ago and despite it being my first book/series (albeit I messed around rewriting it for several years before I published anything) it's already doing much better than most other fics on the site, having thousands of readers already (this is very above average, and I'm only a few hundred pages into the story). This reason for this success is that I have a good understanding of society/politics/how people behave/normie insecurites/etc. I didn't have waste time 'getting good'. I just knew what I was doing right away.

Talent > Effort

You write fiction bhai? Mind if I take a look?

 

[disillusioned]

Where do you think talent comes from genius?

Genes. Like almost everything else.

 

[Resurrected]

Both bc if you only do one you fail

 

[disillusioned]

Both bc if you only do one you fail

Having superior genetics isn't just a 'head start'. It's literally a 'I win' button.

 

[TheVoidInside]

there are literal kids that are good at things, idk how normies cope with that lol

 

[Resurrected]

Having superior genetics isn't just a 'head start'. It's literally a 'I win' button.

Yes but without putting effort in it how can you even use your gens

 

[einzigartig]

"You must practice for ten thousand hours before you're good at it "
"You must write at least 10 million words before you know how to write "
"You must lift for at least 10 years before you have a killer body "
"You must..."
Etc.

Here is the real reason you'll so often hear this...

Normies are THEMSELVES trying and FAILING at a given activity, but they don't want to accept it, so they cope with this myth that getting good at something takes a very long time because it's the only way they can convince themselves that they haven't actually 'failed' yet despite having struggled for years already.

You'll hear ridiculous copes about how X person had to toil away for how many years, write how many failed books, publish how many failed songs, do whatever bs for how many years or decades etc before 'making it'. This is all horseshit.

Interestingly, I'm actually a real world example of this with my fiction writing. I started a web series a couple years ago and despite it being my first book/series (albeit I messed around rewriting it for several years before I published anything) it's already doing much better than most other fics on the site, having thousands of readers already (this is very above average, and I'm only a few hundred pages into the story). This reason for this success is that I have a good understanding of society/politics/how people behave/normie insecurites/etc. I didn't have waste time 'getting good'. I just knew what I was doing right away.

Talent > Effort

I've always said that talent is more important than hard work, but people don't get it

like as if a 90 iq subhuman would be able to finish Harvard man

 

[einzigartig]

Yes but without putting effort in it how can you even use your gens

stop the cope with "pUtTiNg EfFoRt" dude ofc u have to start something to be good in it

u won't be good in anything if u dont start taking action your "argument" is not one btw

 

[einzigartig]

This doesn't translate into getting better at it.

people don't understand that you have limited capabilities.

like for example if you played a game 12h a day u still wouldn't surpass pros cause they have the talent simple as that

 

[einzigartig]

I have a talent for absolutely everything, it is easy for me to learn anything, especially if it is interesting to me

this is so cringe "especially if it is interesting to me" well no shit u arent special

 

[William Anderson]

Genes. Like almost everything else.

Most pitiful retarded cope ever

 

[William Anderson]

people don't understand that you have limited capabilities.

like for example if you played a game 12h a day u still wouldn't surpass pros cause they have the talent simple as that

Yea sure bro being good at an xbox game comes from genetics

I don’t understand how people as stupid as this can even type coherent sentences

 

[CookieGuy]

"You must practice for ten thousand hours before you're good at it "
"You must write at least 10 million words before you know how to write "
"You must lift for at least 10 years before you have a killer body "
"You must..."
Etc.

Here is the real reason you'll so often hear this...

Normies are THEMSELVES trying and FAILING at a given activity, but they don't want to accept it, so they cope with this myth that getting good at something takes a very long time because it's the only way they can convince themselves that they haven't actually 'failed' yet despite having struggled for years already.

You'll hear ridiculous copes about how X person had to toil away for how many years, write how many failed books, publish how many failed songs, do whatever bs for how many years or decades etc before 'making it'. This is all horseshit.

Interestingly, I'm actually a real world example of this with my fiction writing. I started a web series a couple years ago and despite it being my first book/series (albeit I messed around rewriting it for several years before I published anything) it's already doing much better than most other fics on the site, having thousands of readers already (this is very above average, and I'm only a few hundred pages into the story). This reason for this success is that I have a good understanding of society/politics/how people behave/normie insecurites/etc. I didn't have waste time 'getting good'. I just knew what I was doing right away.

Talent > Effort

All except art yeah. I was shocked to see how a talentless person like me was able to do it

 

[shieldzz]

Effort will never beat talent

 

[Saint Casanova]

All except art yeah. I was shocked to see how a talentless person like me was able to do it

Shame you can’t do much with that in this world

 

[CookieGuy]

Shame you can’t do much with that in this world

Yeah true art is kinda useless. Hey atleast I’m good at game design

 

[Saint Casanova]

Yeah true art is kinda useless. Hey atleast I’m good at game design

That’s good, but I’ve heard that most big studios treat their employees like shit. Maybe being an indie designer is better

 

[CookieGuy]

That’s good, but I’ve heard that most big studios treat their employees like shit. Maybe being an indie designer is better

Yeah I do that

 

[Resurrected]

people don't understand that you have limited capabilities.

like for example if you played a game 12h a day u still wouldn't surpass pros cause they have the talent simple as that

Yes bur these guys still play allot don‘t they

 

[einzigartig]

Yea sure bro being good at an xbox game comes from genetics

I don’t understand how people as stupid as this can even type coherent sentences

jfl look at cs2 pros you could play 12h a day and still wouldn't surpass them not genetics but talent

the audacity of greycels

 

[einzigartig]

Yes bur these guys still play allot don‘t they

yes that's what i also kinda meant even if you played as long as pros u wouldn't surpass them solely due to their talent

 

[Nick.Harte]

The first trimester in the womb determines everything

 

[Toad]

I was born knowing how to draw. At 3 years old I was able to draw better than most full grown adults. I'm also naturally good at reading and writing, among other things. People like to believe that talent doesn't exist but ya it's cope

 

[Swarthy Knight]

How do u know/find out what you're talent at

 

[Toad]

How do u know/find out what you're talent at

You just do the thing and then people are suddenly amazed and will flock around you. Happened to me a lot growing up

 

[Swarthy Knight]

You just do the thing and then people are suddenly amazed and will flock around you. Happened to me a lot growing up

Bragcel

 

[Toad]

Yeah true art is kinda useless. Hey atleast I’m good at game design

Do you code? I'm a 3D modeler

 

[Resurrected]

yes that's what i also kinda meant even if you played as long as pros u wouldn't surpass them solely due to their talent

So in conclusion what the fuck is talent without effort, prooved my point. Im talented in many things but still wont achive shit without putting effort into it