Its over for Vegans, muh meat causes lower life expectancy bro!

[TsarTsar444]

The highest mest consumers in Europe have a life expectancy higher then the lowest meat consumers.

Just so this doesn't get the turbo cope argument "muh they are more developed countries"

Then take Montenegro and Macedonia, both economicaly very similar to each other, one has literally almost 2 times more meat consumption then the other one, yet Montenegro has a life expectancy of 77 years, 2 years higher then Macedonia.

Also the meat in the study excludes fish between, just to put more salt in vegan wounds

 

[Deleted member 15748]

how the fuck is it so low in the east and Turkey that is surprising, I thought they were all alpha over there

 

[TsarTsar444]

how the fuck is it so low in the east and Turkey that is surprising, I thought they were all alpha over there

Turkey? Turks aren't known to be high meat consumers, diary sure. And which countries in the East specifically

 

[TsarTsar444]

@subhuman incel thoughts?

 

[Deleted member 15338]

life expectancy is a faggot cope itself jfl​

Muhhh i wont die at 75 but i will die at 80

 

[Deleted member 15309]

life expectancy is a faggot cope itself jfl​

Muhhh i wont die at 75 but i will die at 80

WannabeJock​

 

[Deleted member 15338]

life expectancy is a faggot cope itself jfl​

Muhhh i wont die at 75 but i will die at 80

Srs same goes for smoking, weed and alcohol

Dont do any of these in your prime years so you can live 5 years longer as a geezer fuck

 

[TsarTsar444]

Srs same goes for smoking, weed and alcohol

Dont do any of these in your prime years so you can live 5 years longer as a geezer fuck

Nah cigarettes are bad for various other reasons not just dying old age, lower lung capacity, money wasting

 

[Deleted member 15338]

Nah cigarettes are bad for various other reasons not just dying old age, lower lung capacity, money wasting

Still it is not worth to limit yourself like that, my father was a tobacco addict and he almost died cuz of it jfl, now he is not smoking but he says if he is about to die soon he will smoke all day in his last days

 

[Deleted member 15309]

all that iberian meat just to be manlet country

muh meat

 

[Deleted member 15309]

menawhile average macedonian mogs spanish cucks

 

[Deleted member 15309]

op has angel number
its over

 

[Deleted member 18372]

how the fuck is it so low in the east and Turkey that is surprising, I thought they were all alpha over there

we can't afford meat (turkey)

 

[Reckless Turtle]

The highest mest consumers in Europe have a life expectancy higher then the lowest meat consumers.

You didn't link anything showing life expectancy.

 

[TsarTsar444]

You didn't link anything showing life expectancy.

Spain 83.49
Macedonia 75.80
Turkey 77.69

 

[TsarTsar444]

Still it is not worth to limit yourself like that, my father was a tobacco addict and he almost died cuz of it jfl, now he is not smoking but he says if he is about to die soon he will smoke all day in his last days

How did he almost die

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Spain 83.49
Macedonia 75.80
Turkey 77.69

You can't link the source?

"Fuck bitches get paid" - Albert Einstein

 

[Deleted member 15338]

How did he almost die

It hurted his lungs, he was vomitting his own blood

 

[TsarTsar444]

You can't link the source?

"Fuck bitches get paid" - Albert Einstein

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[TsarTsar444]

It hurted his lungs, he was vomitting his own blood

But didn't get cancer? Interesting

 

[Reckless Turtle]

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#2 (higher than all of the countries you mentioned) Switzerland 65 kg/c
#7 Norway 68 kg/c

 

[Deleted member 15338]

But didn't get cancer? Interesting

Nah it wasnt cancer, i was like 10 yo that time

 

[TsarTsar444]

#2 (higher than all of the countries you mentioned) Switzerland 65 kg/c
#7 Norway 68 kg/c

You are giga retarded, thats a minuscule difference, and compare it with Spain, they are almost equal yet Spain consumes 34kg more meat

 

[Reckless Turtle]

You are giga retarded, thats a minuscule difference, and compare it with Spain, they are almost equal yet Spain consumes 34kg more meat

You are giga retarded for not mentioning the fact the "vegans" only make up a small percentage of the human population (like less than 2%, depending on the area), and many of the countries with lower meat consumption are much poorer (and subsequently have worse healthcare and QOL).

 

[Deleted member 15338]

You are giga retarded

I am saying this for months @Reckless Turtle

 

[Reckless Turtle]

I am saying this for months @Reckless Turtle

Consistently, and with no counterarguments, conveniently.

 

[Deleted member 15338]

Consistently, and with no counterarguments, conveniently.

Do u feel smart when you say stuff like this

 

[TsarTsar444]

You are giga retarded for not mentioning the fact the "vegans" only make up a small percentage of the human population (like less than 2%, depending on the area), and many of the countries with lower meat consumption are much poorer (and subsequently have worse healthcare and QOL).

Haha then explain Montenegro and Macedonia you dumb fuck, both countries are the top 10 poorest in Europe with very similar economies yet Montenegro has 78/c compared to Macedonia with 39/c, but Montenegro has a higher life expectancy

Also Hong Kong has the highest life expectancy on Earth and also the highest mest consumption per capita

And lastly Spain literally has just 2 months less life expectancy then the Swiss while consuming 35kg more meat, and having a smaller gdp per capita on top of it. So Spain clearly doesn't have the advantage in terms of Healthcare yet their lige expectancy is practically the same with huge differences in meat consumption

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Do u feel smart when you say stuff like this

Certainly smarter than somebody who's willing to waste their time calling people retarded on Looksmax.org without forming a coherent argument.

 

[Deleted member 15338]

coherent argument.

 

[TsarTsar444]

Certainly smarter than somebody who's willing to waste their time calling people retarded on Looksmax.org without forming a coherent argument.

Okay sorry for calling you a retard then, the point of my thread isn't necessarily that higher meat = longer life, its that "higher meat =/ shorter life"

 

[subhuman incel]

okanava people live the longest and eat mostly plant based, enough said

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Haha then explain Montenegro and Macedonia you dumb fuck, both countries are the top 10 poorest in Europe with very similar economies yet Montenegro has 78/c compared to Macedonia with 39/c, but Montenegro has a higher life expectancy

If I was fallacious by highlighting that, provided your own source, Switzerland has a higher (yet insignificant) life expectancy than Spain (which I didn't—I was simply observing that Spain doesn't even have the highest life expectancy in Europe; Switzerland is higher, with lower meat consumption), then you have presented a similar fallacy by comparing Macedonia to Montenegro, which have insignificant differences in life expectancy (75.80 vs 76.88, respectively).

Clearly, GDP (healthcare, QOL, etc.) has a much stronger correlation with life expectancy than annual meat consumption, as per your own sources.

Also Hong Kong has the highest life expectancy on Earth and also the highest mest consumption per capita

...maybe because Hong Kong is considered to be one of the top 10 richest nations in the world.

And lastly Spain literally has just 2 months less life expectancy then the Swiss while consuming 35kg more meat, and having a smaller gdp per capita on top of it. So Spain clearly doesn't have the advantage in terms of Healthcare yet their lige expectancy is practically the same with huge differences in meat consumption

Maybe their specific "Mediterranean diet" healthmogs, which includes other (non-meat) foods (grapes, rice, etc)—also, less red meat (which has a correlation with cardiovascular and colorectal issues).

 

[TsarTsar444]

okanava people live the longest and eat mostly plant based, enough said

Hong Kong has the highest meat consumption on earth and longest life expectancy

Okinawans do eat mostly plant based but they still eat the healthiest types of meat like lean raw goat meat, fish, lean pork etc.

Biggest point of my thread is that low stress, sun, low work hours, good comunity is the most important thing for living a good healthy life, not muh diet, the onlt really damaging thing in diet is omega 6 and trans fats

 

[TsarTsar444]

If I was fallacious by highlighting that, provided your own source, Switzerland has a higher (yet insignificant) life expectancy than Spain (which I didn't—I was simply observing that Spain doesn't even have the highest life expectancy in Europe; Switzerland is higher, with lower meat consumption), then you have presented a similar fallacy by comparing Macedonia to Montenegro, which have insignificant differences in life expectancy (75.80 vs 76.88, respectively).

Clearly, GDP (healthcare, QOL, etc.) has a much stronger correlation with life expectancy than annual meat consumption, as per your own sources.


...maybe because Hong Kong is considered to be one of the top 10 richest nations in the world.



Maybe their specific "Mediterranean diet" healthmogs.

Turkey has a higher gdp per capita then Montenegro, 9% higher, yet it has 100% less meat consumption then Montenegro, and only 1.8 higher life expectancy

And a very good example i found out is Switzerland and Hong Kong, Swiss actually have a higher gdp per capita then Hong Kong, yet Hong Kong has a higher life expectancy then the Swiss while having 600% higher meat consumption (600g of meat consumption for Hong Kong daily, 100g for the Swiss)

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Turkey has a higher gdp per capita then Montenegro, 9% higher, yet it has 100% less meat consumption then Montenegro, and only 1.8 higher life expectancy

And a very good example i found out is Switzerland and Hong Kong, Swiss actually have a higher gdp per capita then Hong Kong, yet Hong Kong has a higher life expectancy then the Swiss while having 600% higher meat consumption (600g of meat consumption for Hong Kong daily, 100g for the Swiss)

The whole crux of this argument is cherrypicking comparisons without any statistical significance, which was what I did by using your own sources to point out Switzerland having the highest life expectancy, despite only having medium meat consumption (just to make a point).

In response to Turkey vs Montenegro, I could literally just say that "Turkey has 1.8 years higher life expectancy while having significantly less meat consumption."

As I already said, I'm pretty confident that higher QOL (GPD/c) has a strong, positive correlation with life expectancy (I'm too lazy to find a study). If you wanted to make a more meaningful argument, you would have to consistently control for GDP/c when observing a positive correlation with meat consumption and life expectancy.

 

[TsarTsar444]

The whole crux of this argument is cherrypicking comparisons without any statistical significance, which was what I did by using your own sources to point out Switzerland having the highest life expectancy, despite only having medium meat consumption (just to make a point).

In response to Turkey vs Montenegro, I could literally just say that "Turkey has 1.8 years higher life expectancy while having significantly less meat consumption."

As I already said, I'm pretty confident that higher QOL (GPD/c) has a strong, positive correlation with life expectancy (I'm too lazy to find a study). If you wanted to make a more meaningful argument, you would have to consistently control for GDP/c when observing a positive correlation with meat consumption and life expectancy.

But Hong Kong and Switzerland defeats the gdp argument, Hong Kong has 200/c compared to Swiss 65/c, yet higher life expectancy with lower gdp

And most of the meat is pork and beef btw

 

[Reckless Turtle]

But Hong Kong and Switzerland defeats the gdp argument, Hong Kong has 200/c compared to Swiss 65/c, yet higher life expectancy with lower gdp

And most of the meat is pork and beef btw

There are roughly 190 more nations to include in your regression analysis. You better get to work.

 

[TsarTsar444]

There are roughly 190 more nations to include in your regression analysis. You better get to work.

Hong Kong is 14th on gdp on the planet, has the highest life expectancy and highest meat consumption. This means that 13 countries have higher gdp's and less meat consumption then Hong Kong on the planet and also lower life expectancies. Whats so complicated?

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Hong Kong is 14th on gdp on the planet, has the highest life expectancy and highest meat consumption. This means that 13 countries have higher gdp's and less meat consumption then Hong Kong on the planet and also lower life expectancies. Whats so complicated?

You still have to consider the other ~180 lower GDP nations in order to make a solid assessment of statistical significance (the argument you made against Switzerland versus Spain and Turkey versus Montenegro in terms of life expectancy)...

 

[Clark69]

https://renegadewellness.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/cholesterol-mortality-chart.pdf

According to vegans, the ideal total cholesterol level for health should be around 150

But this chart shows otherwise

 

[Deleted member 7580]

Is 1-2lb of beef/day healthy ? I’ve eating lots of beef lately and people irl are saying I’m gonna die off cancer

 

[TsarTsar444]

Is 1-2lb of beef/day healthy ? I’ve eating lots of beef lately and people irl are saying I’m gonna die off cancer

Literally no, there is nothing in beef that could cause cancer, the nitrites in processed red meat have shown direct causation to cell death, red meat hasn't, it only has casual association with higher mortality risk but thats because people who eat red meat aren't as health obsessed in all other areas like vegans are for example.

 

[TITUS]

Meat is love, meat is life.

 

[TITUS]

Is 1-2lb of beef/day healthy ? I’ve eating lots of beef lately and people irl are saying I’m gonna die off cancer

It's super healthy, but i like to mix fish and other kinds of meats, eggs and so on.

 

[Deleted member 18436]

I have no issue with vegans it amazes me how so many of them choose not to have kids but happily want refugees to replace them. It's whatever.

 

[Aladin]

Literally no, there is nothing in beef that could cause cancer, the nitrites in processed red meat have shown direct causation to cell death, red meat hasn't, it only has casual association with higher mortality risk but thats because people who eat red meat aren't as health obsessed in all other areas like vegans are for example.

Nitrites/Nitrates are not bad for you.