Its the mens fault that incels exist

[Methylphenidate]

If unattractive men at powerful positions in ancient times, didn't force women to have sex with them, most of us would be attractive.

 

[WhiteMan]

If unattractive men at powerful positions in ancient times, didn't force women to have sex with them, most of us would be attractive.

If they didn't force ugly women, SHOULD'VE RAPED STACIES!

 

[Methylphenidate]

If they didn't force ugly women, SHOULD'VE RAPED STACIES!

But the men were unattractive so the offsprings genes got fucked anyways

 

[Time]

Women would just raise the bar for what's attractive.

 

[Chadeep]

If unattractive men at powerful positions in ancient times, didn't force women to have sex with them, most of us would be attractive.

Absolutely true for India.

 

[WhiteMan]

But the men were unattractive so the offsprings genes got fucked anyways

I doubt there was any chads back then, people were ugly cucks, I think modern humans mog their ancestors brutally.

 

[Methylphenidate]

Absolutely true for India.

In India it's even more extreme. The arranged marriages were and still are prevalent in many areas for some reason. And only status of men matters here. Even my grandma used to tell me how she wanted a taller man and that it wouldve been so fun. My grandpa had a job at the time so status halo for my grandmas parents. He was 5'4

 

[Methylphenidate]

I doubt there was any chads back then, people were ugly cucks, I think modern humans mog their ancestors brutally.

Still, if humans let women choose their parteners naturally most of us would be attractive.

Women would just raise the bar for what's attractive.

There wouldn't be as much incels still

 

[Chadeep]

In India it's even more extreme. The arranged marriages were and still are prevalent in many areas for some reason. And only status of men matters here. Even my grandma used to tell me how she wanted a taller man and that it wouldve been so fun. My grandpa had a job at the time so status halo for my grandmas parents. He was 5'4

The Arranged Marriage system was Brought by Britishers

 

[Methylphenidate]

The Arranged Marriage system was Brought by Britishers

But indians didn't let women choose their partners due to caste barriers and shit im pretty sure

 

[Chadeep]

But indians didn't let women choose their partners due to caste barriers and shit im pretty sure

Strictly speaking the manner in which most scriptures define caste, the caste system or its development and evolution, has little to do with how castes and caste hierarchies actually developed in the real world. For example, texts such as the Purusha Shukta may describe how the "cosmic being was divided into 4 parts and out of each part namely the head, the arms, the torso and the legs, each of the varnas were formed namely the Brahmins, the Kshatriyas, the Vaishyas and the Shudras respectively". However this implies two things, 1) That the caste an individual was born into dictated the occupations he was allowed to choose in life and that throughout history these were the only occupations said individuals chose. 2) That there was a religious justification and foundation for caste first and its real life implications second. However this isn't true. The distinction between the upper or elites in Vedic society and those who would serve as servants or slaves was made in the Rig Veda itself. The Indo-Aryans referred to themselves as Arya or Aryans while they referred to the native inhabitants of the subcontinent as "dasas" literally meaning servants. This relationship between ruler and ruled and strict class and race based distinctions were not unique to Indo-Aryan society. Now, while there was almost a millenia during which heavily male dominated groups of Indo-Aryans took native female partners as well, the idea of the purity of the patrilineal bloodline existed. Meaning while it was acceptable for a elite male to take a dasa female partner the opposite could not be acceptable. It was this patrilineal bloodline that is the foundation of what is known as gotra. A person's gotra is their patrilineal bloodline. Only the three "upper castes" are assigned or have gotras. The Shudras do not. In later centuries the acceptable form of marriage in society would be called "Anuloma" marriages and apart from marriages within the same caste which were considered excellent, this would be the only form of marriage deemed at least acceptable.

With the passage of time, the Indo-Aryan or Vedic society divided itself into 3 upper and 1 lower varna. Namely Brahmin, Kshatriyas, Vaishyas and Shudras. The first three being born out of the fact that occupations and their know how was passed from fathers to sons and hence occupations themselves became hereditary. Overtime, religious justifications for this hereditary system were created. There is also the idea that one could fluctuate between varnas, which is also unfounded in history.

So, caste, or. Jati is as old as 2000 years give or take, and the foundation for this system of differentiation between groups of people was the perception of the Indo-Aryans towards the natives of the lands they came to settle upon and the relationship between a ruling elite and it's servant class/ethnic group.

 

[Methylphenidate]

Strictly speaking the manner in which most scriptures define caste, the caste system or its development and evolution, has little to do with how castes and caste hierarchies actually developed in the real world. For example, texts such as the Purusha Shukta may describe how the "cosmic being was divided into 4 parts and out of each part namely the head, the arms, the torso and the legs, each of the varnas were formed namely the Brahmins, the Kshatriyas, the Vaishyas and the Shudras respectively". However this implies two things, 1) That the caste an individual was born into dictated the occupations he was allowed to choose in life and that throughout history these were the only occupations said individuals chose. 2) That there was a religious justification and foundation for caste first and its real life implications second. However this isn't true. The distinction between the upper or elites in Vedic society and those who would serve as servants or slaves was made in the Rig Veda itself. The Indo-Aryans referred to themselves as Arya or Aryans while they referred to the native inhabitants of the subcontinent as "dasas" literally meaning servants. This relationship between ruler and ruled and strict class and race based distinctions were not unique to Indo-Aryan society. Now, while there was almost a millenia during which heavily male dominated groups of Indo-Aryans took native female partners as well, the idea of the purity of the patrilineal bloodline existed. Meaning while it was acceptable for a elite male to take a dasa female partner the opposite could not be acceptable. It was this patrilineal bloodline that is the foundation of what is known as gotra. A person's gotra is their patrilineal bloodline. Only the three "upper castes" are assigned or have gotras. The Shudras do not. In later centuries the acceptable form of marriage in society would be called "Anuloma" marriages and apart from marriages within the same caste which were considered excellent, this would be the only form of marriage deemed at least acceptable.

With the passage of time, the Indo-Aryan or Vedic society divided itself into 3 upper and 1 lower varna. Namely Brahmin, Kshatriyas, Vaishyas and Shudras. The first three being born out of the fact that occupations and their know how was passed from fathers to sons and hence occupations themselves became hereditary. Overtime, religious justifications for this hereditary system were created. There is also the idea that one could fluctuate between varnas, which is also unfounded in history.

So, caste, or. Jati is as old as 2000 years give or take, and the foundation for this system of differentiation between groups of people was the perception of the Indo-Aryans towards the natives of the lands they came to settle upon and the relationship between a ruling elite and it's servant class/ethnic group.

Pretty sure all wasn't sunshine and rainbows as written here tbh. This seems to be almost a glorification of those ideologies. "Fluctuate between castes" Never heard of that before.

 

[t20cel]

Strictly speaking the manner in which most scriptures define caste, the caste system or its development and evolution, has little to do with how castes and caste hierarchies actually developed in the real world. For example, texts such as the Purusha Shukta may describe how the "cosmic being was divided into 4 parts and out of each part namely the head, the arms, the torso and the legs, each of the varnas were formed namely the Brahmins, the Kshatriyas, the Vaishyas and the Shudras respectively". However this implies two things, 1) That the caste an individual was born into dictated the occupations he was allowed to choose in life and that throughout history these were the only occupations said individuals chose. 2) That there was a religious justification and foundation for caste first and its real life implications second. However this isn't true. The distinction between the upper or elites in Vedic society and those who would serve as servants or slaves was made in the Rig Veda itself. The Indo-Aryans referred to themselves as Arya or Aryans while they referred to the native inhabitants of the subcontinent as "dasas" literally meaning servants. This relationship between ruler and ruled and strict class and race based distinctions were not unique to Indo-Aryan society. Now, while there was almost a millenia during which heavily male dominated groups of Indo-Aryans took native female partners as well, the idea of the purity of the patrilineal bloodline existed. Meaning while it was acceptable for a elite male to take a dasa female partner the opposite could not be acceptable. It was this patrilineal bloodline that is the foundation of what is known as gotra. A person's gotra is their patrilineal bloodline. Only the three "upper castes" are assigned or have gotras. The Shudras do not. In later centuries the acceptable form of marriage in society would be called "Anuloma" marriages and apart from marriages within the same caste which were considered excellent, this would be the only form of marriage deemed at least acceptable.

With the passage of time, the Indo-Aryan or Vedic society divided itself into 3 upper and 1 lower varna. Namely Brahmin, Kshatriyas, Vaishyas and Shudras. The first three being born out of the fact that occupations and their know how was passed from fathers to sons and hence occupations themselves became hereditary. Overtime, religious justifications for this hereditary system were created. There is also the idea that one could fluctuate between varnas, which is also unfounded in history.

So, caste, or. Jati is as old as 2000 years give or take, and the foundation for this system of differentiation between groups of people was the perception of the Indo-Aryans towards the natives of the lands they came to settle upon and the relationship between a ruling elite and it's servant class/ethnic group.

wtf nigga thought you were a atheist

 

[cryptt]

Wouldn't matter imo till the allels are really prominent there would've probably been alot of variations

 

[Chadeep]

Pretty sure all wasn't sunshine and rainbows as written here tbh. This seems to be almost a glorification of those ideologies. "Fluctuate between castes" Never heard of that before.

I think it fluidic nature of caste existed tbh otherwise we won't have ugly Abo tier brahmans from Maharashtra and Lightskin Dalits from Himachal.

 

[Methylphenidate]

Wouldn't matter imo till the allels are really prominent there would've probably been alot of variations

Would tbh. If we let nature take it's course from the beginning.

 

[Chadeep]

wtf nigga thought you were a atheist

It's a reddit comment blud. Not that deep

 

[Methylphenidate]

I think it fluidic nature of caste existed tbh otherwise we won't have ugly Abo tier brahmans from Maharashtra and Lightskin Dalits from Himachal.

Yeah, but there probably was variations between brahmin phenos anyways due to the generations of reproduction that happened before the introduction of these ideologies.

 

[failedathlete]

Strictly speaking the manner in which most scriptures define caste, the caste system or its development and evolution, has little to do with how castes and caste hierarchies actually developed in the real world. For example, texts such as the Purusha Shukta may describe how the "cosmic being was divided into 4 parts and out of each part namely the head, the arms, the torso and the legs, each of the varnas were formed namely the Brahmins, the Kshatriyas, the Vaishyas and the Shudras respectively". However this implies two things, 1) That the caste an individual was born into dictated the occupations he was allowed to choose in life and that throughout history these were the only occupations said individuals chose. 2) That there was a religious justification and foundation for caste first and its real life implications second. However this isn't true. The distinction between the upper or elites in Vedic society and those who would serve as servants or slaves was made in the Rig Veda itself. The Indo-Aryans referred to themselves as Arya or Aryans while they referred to the native inhabitants of the subcontinent as "dasas" literally meaning servants. This relationship between ruler and ruled and strict class and race based distinctions were not unique to Indo-Aryan society. Now, while there was almost a millenia during which heavily male dominated groups of Indo-Aryans took native female partners as well, the idea of the purity of the patrilineal bloodline existed. Meaning while it was acceptable for a elite male to take a dasa female partner the opposite could not be acceptable. It was this patrilineal bloodline that is the foundation of what is known as gotra. A person's gotra is their patrilineal bloodline. Only the three "upper castes" are assigned or have gotras. The Shudras do not. In later centuries the acceptable form of marriage in society would be called "Anuloma" marriages and apart from marriages within the same caste which were considered excellent, this would be the only form of marriage deemed at least acceptable.

With the passage of time, the Indo-Aryan or Vedic society divided itself into 3 upper and 1 lower varna. Namely Brahmin, Kshatriyas, Vaishyas and Shudras. The first three being born out of the fact that occupations and their know how was passed from fathers to sons and hence occupations themselves became hereditary. Overtime, religious justifications for this hereditary system were created. There is also the idea that one could fluctuate between varnas, which is also unfounded in history.

So, caste, or. Jati is as old as 2000 years give or take, and the foundation for this system of differentiation between groups of people was the perception of the Indo-Aryans towards the natives of the lands they came to settle upon and the relationship between a ruling elite and it's servant class/ethnic group.

it is why indians love looksmaxing, caste irl moment, no brahmin for your face

 

[cryptt]

Would tbh. If we let nature take it's course from the beginning.

Nature already did take its course on making different races which changes from a region to region according to sunlight and the environmental factors

 

[Chadeep]

Yeah, but there probably was variations between brahmin phenos anyways due to the generations of reproduction that happened before the introduction of these ideologies.

Even Brahmins are Divided across India based on food Habits. Northie Brahmins avoid Onion and Garlic. Meanwhile Brahmins in Northeast eat everything except Pork and Beef. Weird

 

[Methylphenidate]

Nature already did take its course on making different races which changes from a region to region according to sunlight and the environmental factors

But that's literally not what im talking about. Im talking about female nature, as in the way they think. If we let females choose their partners from "the beginning" there wouldn't be as much incels. Whyre you denying the importance of genetics?

 

[Methylphenidate]

Even Brahmins are Divided across India based on food Habits. Northie Brahmins avoid Onion and Garlic. Meanwhile Brahmins in Northeast eat everything except Pork and Beef. Weird

I think communication wasn't as developed in those times, so the people who developed these ideologies made other people spread them throughout. And the ppl who retold/rewrote the og scriptures and shit added new rules of their choice maybe?

 

[Chadeep]

I think communication wasn't as developed in those times, so the people who developed these ideologies made other people spread them throughout. And the ppl who retold/rewrote the og scriptures and shit added new rules of their choice maybe?

Maybe. Also because of Adaptivity Kashmiri Bamans Consume Meat.

 

[cryptt]

But that's literally not what im talking about. Im talking about female nature, as in the way they think. If we let females choose their partners from "the beginning" there wouldn't be as much incels. Whyre you denying the importance of genetics?

i am not denying genetics u js mentioned in op from ancient times from ancient times till now genes have been altered in ancient times people used to kids through incest but we arent totally inbred who knows what our ancestors did female nature has changed from such times in ancient times females could not hunt for their own food so of course theyd look for stronger males rather than handsome ones which woman still find attractive being taller and whatsoever but males werent so tall in ancient times rather bulky and had burst amounts of power

 

[Methylphenidate]

i am not denying genetics u js mentioned in op from ancient times from ancient times till now genes have been altered in ancient times people used to kids through incest but we arent totally inbred who knows what our ancestors did female nature has changed from such times in ancient times females could not hunt for their own food so of course theyd look for stronger males rather than handsome ones which woman still find attractive being taller and whatsoever but males werent so tall in ancient times rather bulky and had burst amounts of power

Still, if women reproduced with men of their choice there would be less incels.

 

[cryptt]

Still, if women reproduced with men of their choice there would be less incels.

cannot happen in india till this day u either get arranged marriage or love marriage in the same caste so it wouldnt matter but there would be variations in upcoming generation so u might js climb the race ladder but slowly than the whites

 

[Methylphenidate]

cannot happen in india till this day u either get arranged marriage or love marriage in the same caste so it wouldnt matter but there would be variations in upcoming generation so u might js climb the race ladder but slowly than the whites

Nothing can be changed now obviously. But it wouldve been nice if our unattractive ancestors all throughout history accepted their subhumanness and didn't force women to reproduce with them to "carry on their bloodline" because they were prideful and egoistic.

Edited the typos