Jaw implant = WICH SIZE ?

[Looksmaxerfr13]

This thing is calculated in milimeters.. surgerons says that 5mm is already a huge gain, based on couting soft tissues = skin, muscle etc..

Some of you guys know about jaw implant size ?

 

[khvirgin]

bro depends on your face
you think it's some One-size-fits-all

 

[Looksmaxerfr13]

bro depends on your face
you think it's some One-size-fits-all

yeah i assumed you would get that.
I'm asking about a size range.

First i tought implant size were about 1cm to 3cm..
Then surgeron tells me that 5mm is already big improuvement ?!

what do you know guys about ranges, in general cases whats the minimum and maximum to have a nice look ? based on a narrow rounded jaw..

 

[longjohnmong]

3cm on either side?

 

[Looksmaxerfr13]

3cm on either side?

that's what i first tought, until surgerons explain to me that 3 to 5mm is the regular jaw implant sizes.
considering that must be added the skin and the masseter even thin ones.

but 5mm seems ridiculous..
i have a very flat angle, and a pretty wide zygo.

to have a 90% zygo/gonion ratio (wich is the best) i need 1cm..
but i'm afraid of ruining the harmony with my mouth size..

it's so complicated

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Post jaw

 

[Looksmaxerfr13]

Post jaw

it doesn't matter..

i'm just asking what is the general range of mandibular implants ?

is it really 3 to 5mm ?
1cm would look silly ? surgeron told me that 1cm is already very hard to install cause of the masseter tension related to his attachement

 

[Deleted member 21766]

The bigger the better

 

[Looksmaxerfr13]

The bigger the better

that is dumb talk
harmony is the key

you want your gonions be wide enough to follow your zygo arch, 80 to 90% zygo/gonial ratio is the best
BUT you also don't want your gonions to be too wide from the mouth, you will look like a big potato.

There is a lot of people with large jaw even incels but not attractive
now the icon david gandy dont have a very wide jaw nor o'pry

harmony is not only ratio, it's also bone density, facial muscle density, facial muscle attachment..

im thinking : maybe the ratio should be mouth/gonion, rather than zygo/gonion ?

 

[Deleted member 18361]

width doesnt matter

its all about angularity

 

[Looksmaxerfr13]

width doesnt matter

its all about angularity

you mean outward gonions ?

many surgerons told me the same thing : angularity is not realy the bone, cause most mandibule are about the same.
It's the masseter density and attachement that makes it all.

many showed me exemple of super angular jaw, and with masseter botox (used to get masseter atrophia) they get V shaped/rounded jaws.

they told me that implant can only affect the with of the face, but can't really change the shape, that's why the danger of jaw implant =this results :

im scared of getting some few mm like 3 to 5mm and not getting real improuvement.
But also i'm scared if add 8 to 10mm getting this stupid look.

Cause angulaity = muscles.
Like a bodybulder with angular muscles for exemple traps = it's muscle genetique of density and attachemment.

sometimes you look a skull and think it's great genetics and the guy reveals to be a normie or less

someties the skull looks weird incel like, and the guy is a pure chad

 

[Deleted member 18361]

angularity is not realy the bone, cause most mandibule are about the same.
It's the masseter density and attachement that makes it all.

it is the bone, the bone forms the shape of the muscle

just like how the shell is formed by the turtle

 

[Looksmaxerfr13]

it is the bone, the bone forms the shape of the muscle

just like how the shell is formed by the turtle

read my last post again, that is mistake that people makes

 

[RealSurgerymax]

Totally depends. Sometimes you can barely see 5mm, sometimes it’s a noticeable change. In most cases the surgeon and design engineer make the mistake of adding too much lateral projection (width) and fail to realize the skeletal jaw angle is not exactly where you might assume it to be looking at the soft tissue. Here’s a nice design I made that focuses on augmenting in both dimensions (horizontal & vertical)

 

[Looksmaxerfr13]

Totally depends. Sometimes you can barely see 5mm, sometimes it’s a noticeable change. In most cases the surgeon and design engineer make the mistake of adding too much lateral projection (width) and fail to realize the skeletal jaw angle is not exactly where you might assume it to be looking at the soft tissue. Here’s a nice design I made that focuses on augmenting in both dimensions (horizontal & vertical)

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Ty for your response.
You mean that both surgeron and the engineer can't even locate where's is the angle on the patient classic picture ?!

It start to look like bullshit, surgerons always claming "we can never be sure how implant is gonna fit with soft tissues"
they still asking for K's of $

BTW the design you made is very angular : putting a pointy implant isn't so a guarentee that the soft tissus will be angular ?

 

[RealSurgerymax]

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Ty for your response.
You mean that both surgeron and the engineer can't even locate where's is the angle on the patient classic picture ?!

It start to look like bullshit, surgerons always claming "we can never be sure how implant is gonna fit with soft tissues"
they still asking for K's of $

BTW the design you made is very angular : putting a pointy implant isn't so a guarentee that the soft tissus will be angular ?

soft tissues will be angular if you are lean without extremely thick skin. Skin thickness is individually taken into consideration on all of my custom implants designs.

 

[Looksmaxerfr13]

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soft tissues will be angular if you are lean without extremely thick skin. Skin thickness is individually taken into consideration on all of my custom implants designs.

i'm lost with that mandibular implant thing...
i have inward gonions and very weak masseter, think skin.

Some say i need big implant to replace bone density+masseter.
Some say, i'd rather focus on the shaped with a very angular jaw

And surgerons don't help..

id like to post my scan here, you'd give me an opinion ?

 

[Deleted member 22623]

The bigger the better

 

[RealSurgerymax]

i'm lost with that mandibular implant thing...
i have inward gonions and very weak masseter, think skin.

Some say i need big implant to replace bone density+masseter.
Some say, i'd rather focus on the shaped with a very angular jaw

And surgerons don't help..

id like to post my scan here, you'd give me an opinion ?

Yes you can

 

[Looksmaxerfr13]

Help me choose.
I have wide zygo, and narrow gonions..
Weak masseter
thik skin

So you have my basic scan.
then the rounded angle = surgeron model
the angular one = my modification.

My point was to get big rounded gonions like brad pitt, tom welling etc.
But surgeron told me it will not look like that cause i have poor masseter density.

So maybe it's better to have pointy angle ? since i have weak masseter
as you can tell, my jaw is a straitght line.. no angularity at all.
I'd like to break it into 2 straight ones = angularity.

What do you think

 

[RealSurgerymax]

Help me choose.
I have wide zygo, and narrow gonions..
Weak masseter
thik skin

So you have my basic scan.
then the rounded angle = surgeron model
the angular one = my modification.

My point was to get big rounded gonions like brad pitt, tom welling etc.
But surgeron told me it will not look like that cause i have poor masseter density.

So maybe it's better to have pointy angle ? since i have weak masseter
as you can tell, my jaw is a straitght line.. no angularity at all.
I'd like to break it into 2 straight ones = angularity.

What do you think

Yes there’s still a way to overcome poor masseter density with a special modification that isn’t incorporated into this design. Which surgeon?

 

[Looksmaxerfr13]

first what do you think about the results ?
and wich difference will be between the rounded design and the pointy design ?
what is the way your talking about ? speak bro, don't play me mysterious savant

Other guys, what do you think about theses implants ?

 

[Deleted member 13710]

they told me that implant can only affect the with of the face, but can't really change the shape, that's why the danger of jaw implant =this results : View attachment 2004575

This is probably the worst implant result I've ever seen. Why do people even go to this guy? Defranq has butchered so many patients it's almost impressive.

 

[Looksmaxerfr13]

first what do you think about the results ?
and wich difference will be between the rounded design and the pointy design ?
what is the way your talking about ? speak bro, don't play me mysterious savant

Other guys, what do you think about theses implants ?

this jaw thing is like a gambling results right ?

 

[zeek]

5mm is better for you than 3mm bc of how narrow you are

 

[Looksmaxerfr13]

5mm is better for you than 3mm bc of how narrow you are

what about 8mm
will it look silly at some point ?

wich landmark i should take on the scan ?

 

[VainVanVeen]

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soft tissues will be angular if you are lean without extremely thick skin. Skin thickness is individually taken into consideration on all of my custom implants designs.

Now in 2024, what do you consider extremely thick skin ?