Jaw issues? Short ramus?

[ducktor321123]

My upper lip does not curl out like usual. I feel like my something around my jaw or my jaw itself is recessed, is there anyway that this is fixable without surgery or any orthodontic procedures? I did have braces however due to multiple reasons I couldn’t finish the treatment and as a result my upper teeth are still slightly crooked. I would speculate that my issues are coming from a malocclusion. Any suggestions on how to improve? Any help would be appreciated.

(I am new on here so excuse me if i use wrong terminology)

 

[Troglodyte452]

you can still mog with such ramus, if youre not into hardmaxxing then just stop caring about it

 

[KekLord]

you can still mog with such ramus, if youre not into hardmaxxing then just stop caring about it

He looks recessed, or is it just me?

 

[Troglodyte452]

He looks recessed, or is it just me?

yeah he is. I didn't mean that he could be a mogger, I'm just talking overall for everybody. Short ramus doesn't mean you're automatically ugly

 

[ducktor321123]

yeah he is. I didn't mean that he could be a mogger, I'm just talking overall for everybody. Short ramus doesn't mean you're automatically ugly

In that case how could this recession be fixed? Is it fixable at all without surgery?

 

[superpsycho]

mogs me

 

[superpsycho]

you can still mog with such ramus, if youre not into hardmaxxing then just stop caring about it

ramus is life bro

 

[Troglodyte452]

ramus is life bro

Its not over

 

[ducktor321123]

View attachment 3608657View attachment 3608658
Its not over

Right but you see how his chin is almost on the same line as his upper part of the “jaw”.. like the upper lip part. How can i do that too?

 

[PeakIncels]

My upper lip does not curl out like usual. I feel like my something around my jaw or my jaw itself is recessed, is there anyway that this is fixable without surgery or any orthodontic procedures? I did have braces however due to multiple reasons I couldn’t finish the treatment and as a result my upper teeth are still slightly crooked. I would speculate that my issues are coming from a malocclusion. Any suggestions on how to improve? Any help would be appreciated.

(I am new on here so excuse me if i use wrong terminology)
View attachment 3608574

not too bad, you'll be fine (⁠・⁠∀⁠・⁠)

 

[flatcheck213]

Right but you see how his chin is almost on the same line as his upper part of the “jaw”.. like the upper lip part. How can i do that too?

Bimax

 

[ducktor321123]

Bimax

The point is to not get surgery

 

[flatcheck213]

The point is to not get surgery

How you imagine this?

 

[chadisbeingmade]

View attachment 3608657View attachment 3608658
Its not over

Posting good looking people with a failo some one has is the biggest cope ever. They are good looking despite their flaws (like shit ramus) not because of them.

 

[ducktor321123]

How you imagine this?

I don’t know exactly, as mentioned previously im new here, which is why im asking yall for help. Ive already read through a couple of threads which do talk about growth of the jaw, however they dont exactly adress my problem.

 

[flatcheck213]

I don’t know exactly, as mentioned previously im new here, which is why im asking yall for help. Ive already read through a couple of threads which do talk about growth of the jaw, however they dont exactly adress my problem.

I mean you want to somehow move bones in right position

 

[flatcheck213]

I mean you want to somehow move bones in right position

Only surgery

 

[normie_joe]

My upper lip does not curl out like usual. I feel like my something around my jaw or my jaw itself is recessed, is there anyway that this is fixable without surgery or any orthodontic procedures? I did have braces however due to multiple reasons I couldn’t finish the treatment and as a result my upper teeth are still slightly crooked. I would speculate that my issues are coming from a malocclusion. Any suggestions on how to improve? Any help would be appreciated.

(I am new on here so excuse me if i use wrong terminology)
View attachment 3608574

You have a recessed mandible.

You are the prime candidate for someone that needs to be extremely cautious with jaw surgery, particularly if a surgeon decides to move your upper jaw as well.

This is if a surgeon moves your lower jaw only.

It will align your bottom lip with your top, which won't necessarily make your upper lip curl up like you wanted however. But moving your lower jaw only is safe and guaranteed you will look only better.

This is moving your upper and lower jaw using a movement called counter clockwise rotation.

It's exaggerated here but I want you to pay close attention.

You have two features that makes you the prime candidate for being cautious or avoiding upper jaw movements:

1) Upturned nose

2) Jaws already protruding past your forehead

If you decide to do upper jaw movements, you risk your face looking like a golden retriever i.e a dog, and getting an even more upturned nose which will make you look like a pig.

However to get that "lip curl", you will need some sort rotational movement, so that involves the upper jaw well.

Now if you go to an extremely aesthetic focused surgeon, they may move your upper jaw carefully without risking you looking protrusive. But I'm telling you what the worst case scenario is so you are aware.

If you want to be on the safer side, i would only go for lower. You may need your premolars removed to make space for movement as well.

 

[superpsycho]

View attachment 3608657View attachment 3608658
Its not over

just have everything else maxxed out theory

 

[ducktor321123]

Wow… Thank you man this is an awesome explanation!

 

[Troglodyte452]

Posting good looking people with a failo some one has is the biggest cope ever. They are good looking despite their flaws (like shit ramus) not because of them.

that's literally what i was saying tho, you can look good with a bad ramus. I never said he looks good because of it lol

 

[Troglodyte452]

just have everything else maxxed out theory

to be chad obviously. But Im just saying ramus wont make you chad nor will make you ltn

 

[Troglodyte452]

Right but you see how his chin is almost on the same line as his upper part of the “jaw”.. like the upper lip part. How can i do that too?

yeah, thats got nothing to do with ramus, its your recession

 

[yoshisand]

My upper lip does not curl out like usual. I feel like my something around my jaw or my jaw itself is recessed, is there anyway that this is fixable without surgery or any orthodontic procedures? I did have braces however due to multiple reasons I couldn’t finish the treatment and as a result my upper teeth are still slightly crooked. I would speculate that my issues are coming from a malocclusion. Any suggestions on how to improve? Any help would be appreciated.

(I am new on here so excuse me if i use wrong terminology)
View attachment 3608574

Front is all that matters bro