Jaw Surgery / IMDO in New Zealand

[valhalar]

For any NZ birdcels, there is a maxfac in Wellington named Wayne Gillingham who has been doing IMDO for 5+ years. I have heard good things about him.



His website is relatively detailed: https://www.welloral.co.nz/

But they do:
Single Jaw $18000 NZD
Both Jaws $29000 NZD
Includes all surgical costs including hospital fees, anaesthetic, ward costs, not orthodontist costs.

Edit: They also do BSSO for $9500 with IV sedation lol...

This is covered if you have health insurance and proper sleep apnea.

Even if you don’t want surgery from him he does Consultations for $140 and for another $150 you can get a 3D cone beam scan taken.

The fact he does IMDO a suggests he wants to do more cutting edge procedures than anyone else in NZ, and he is following some of coceancig’s ideas: https://www.welloral.co.nz/procedures/distraction-osteogenesis/

 

[Deleted member 7725]

BSSO with local sedation ?

 

[valhalar]

BSSO with local sedation ?

My bad, IV sedation lmfao. Lowers cost massively from $18k to $9.5k

 

[Deleted member 18361]

crazy how things turn out

 

[valhalar]

crazy how things turn out

See I don't hate IMDO, I just don't like Coceancig's personality and rude questions about how much ones parents earn.

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

Lowers cost massively from $18k to $9.5k

how

 

[LightSkinNoob]

Overpriced considering he doesn’t have many/any ascension examples at that point I’d just fly overseas as a NZ citizen.

 

[valhalar]

how

From his site:

Due to the number of cases Wayne treats, performing lower jaw surgery has become streamlined and we are now offering this surgery including genioplasty under IV sedation in our rooms. This switches the procedure from an expensive and “serious” operation to a much simpler procedure performed in our rooms and you can go home 1 hour later. Patients have found this a much easier procedure under IV sedation and the cost is reduced by half at $9500 for a bilateral sagittal split osteotomy. There is no overnight stay in hospital and recovery is fast.

 

[valhalar]

Overpriced considering he doesn’t have many/any ascension examples at that point I’d just fly overseas as a NZ citizen

The only other option is Italy for NZcels. Cocencig charges us $90,000 for what Wayne can do for $10-$30k.

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

From his site:

and lefort still needs general? pretty much nobody really gets bsso on its own tbh

 

[Matthias8272]

Where you at? There's like 5 on here I think

 

[valhalar]

and lefort still needs general? pretty much nobody really gets bsso on its own tbh

I'm thinking about IMDO here, or genioplasty. Not too bad.

 

[Deleted member 18361]

See I don't hate IMDO, I just don't like Coceancig's personality and rude questions about how much ones parents earn.

aussie personality. sorry ur pedigree camt appreciate that

 

[AscendingHero]

crazy how things turn out

OP brutally took the IMDO/Paul C pill

Hopefully bluepillers lurking dont get on this tho

 

[valhalar]

aussie personality. sorry ur pedigree camt appreciate that

Bruh I lived in Australia, he doesn't have an Aussie personality. There are pretty wild stories about him abusing patients for no reason lol.

 

[XAE17]

.

 

[XAE17]

OP brutally took the IMDO/Paul C pill

Hopefully bluepillers lurking dont get on this tho

 

[valhalar]

OP brutally took the IMDO/Paul C pill

Hopefully bluepillers lurking dont get on this tho

I didn't though, I want genio. I have always said IMDO is a good procedure. I just think Coceancig is crazy and his custom bimax would've looked stupid on my face lmfao.

 

[chadfreak]

Are there nibbers and currys in NZ?

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

I didn't though, I want genio. I have always said IMDO is a good procedure. I just think Coceancig is crazy and his custom bimax would've looked stupid on my face lmfao.

I've never seen a bad coceancig result. I think he is terrabased.

 

[AscendingHero]

I didn't though, I want genio. I have always said IMDO is a good procedure. I just think Coceancig is crazy and his custom bimax would've looked stupid on my face lmfao.

What type of genio? geniopaully?

personally i want both. IMDO+Genio paully and then post recovery a traditional 3d genio

Hopefully Paul (other imdo surgeons) can do a technique similar like what they can do on BSSO in which they cut and torque out (flare) your gonials.

That would be insane

@tesseract How much can IMDO widen the mid mandible?

 

[valhalar]

've never seen a bad coceancig result

crazy how things turn out

OP brutally took the IMDO/Paul C pill

If you really think I should pay Coceancig $90,000 when my lower third already looks like this you are as insane as he is:

*pic redacted for privacy*

 

[AscendingHero]

I've never seen a bad coceancig result. I think he is terrabased.

One of the best in the business @alienmaxxer

I wish i could go to him tbh and i wish he wasnt so pricey.

Legit chadstralia theory strikes again

 

[LightSkinNoob]

The only other option is Italy for NZcels. Cocencig charges us $90,000 for what Wayne can do for $10-$30k.

Can’t NZers be eligible for Medicare, Australia’s form of public health

 

[AscendingHero]

If you really think I should pay Coceancig $90,000 when my lower third already looks like this you are as insane as he is:

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Pay Paul 90,000 for what.

Take the neck and skin pill.

Ur your philtrum/upper lip could be better.

Gonions could be better and so could symmetry and angulaity.

Good lower third, not in need of surgery from what i've seen

 

[valhalar]

Hopefully Paul (other imdo surgeons) can do a technique similar like what they can do on BSSO in which they cut and torque out (flare) your gonials.

Paul calls that his custom BIMAX.

Can’t NZers be eligible for Medicare, Australia’s form of public health

Yeah if they move and work in Aus. I didn't become a resident for tax purposes lol, I do investments.

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

If you really think I should pay Coceancig $90,000 when my lower third already looks like this you are as insane as he is:

View attachment 1659453

he'd probably give you slight advancement to his line of ideal aesthetics or whatever he calls it. he's a perfectionist I guess.

 

[valhalar]

Pay Paul 90,000 for what.

Take the neck and skin pill.

Ur your philtrum/upper lip could be better.

Gonions could be better and so could symmetry and angulaity.

Good lower third, not in need of surgery from what i've seen

Yeah but I could technically better improve all of that with a thin custom implant, or fillers. I don't want to pay $90,000 for a huge mandible which would look stupid with my slender frame jfl.

 

[valhalar]

he'd probably give you slight advancement to his line of ideal aesthetics or whatever he calls it. he's a perfectionist I guess.

Nope, he wanted a 2cm advancement at the gonion, which results in monkey face no matter which way you move it. Other MaxFacs including Ramieri said that was insane/crazy/stupid.

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

Nope, he wanted a 2cm advancement at the gonion, which results in monkey face no matter which way you move it. Other MaxFacs including Ramieri said that was insane/crazy/stupid.

based

 

[valhalar]

Ur your philtrum/upper lip could be better

Bimax would destroy my philtrum and create chimp lip.

 

[AscendingHero]

Yeah but I could technically better improve all of that with a thin custom implant, or fillers. I don't want to pay $90,000 for a huge mandible which would look stupid with my slender frame jfl.

Gymcel. That's a prequisite for anyone on this site tbh. Self-Explanatory.

Or just find a better/similar surgeon with better prices theory ig lol

Paul calls that his custom BIMAX.

I dont need/want bimax.

Can he do the technique where he can just cut and flare the gonions and posterior/anterior ramus?

 

[AscendingHero]

Bimax would destroy my philtrum and create chimp lip.

How so?

 

[Deleted member 18361]

this forum is really something isnt it.

i feel physically uncomfortable interacting people on here

 

[valhalar]

I dont need/want bimax.

Can he do the technique where he can just cut and flare the gonions and posterior/anterior ramus?

I do not know, I have not seem him do this on it's own, only with custom bimax. Perhaps because it would cost the same regardless. If you are not Australian, be prepared to pay a shit tonne.

 

[LightSkinNoob]

Nope, he wanted a 2cm advancement at the gonion, which results in monkey face no matter which way you move it. Other MaxFacs including Ramieri said that was insane/crazy/stupid.

2cm holy fuck imagine you went through with it

 

[valhalar]

2cm holy fuck imagine you went through with it

My whole mid face, paranasal and eye area would have looked so strange. Even a 4mm on my maxilla gives me horrendous chimp lip in morphs.

 

[LightSkinNoob]

My whole mid face, paranasal and eye area would have looked so strange. Even a 4mm on my maxilla gives me chimp lip in morphs.

What’s your rating, your lower third looks good, are you sure it’s a falio, do you really need surgeries?

 

[valhalar]

What’s your rating, your lower third looks good, are you sure it’s a falio, do you really need surgeries?

2 surgeons agreed genio could be an improvement to what I want, but I have another consult to do.

 

[Deleted member 17345]

I need lefort 1

 

[randomvanish]

@valhalar you need GenioPauly ©

 

[FreakkForLife]

@AscendingHero
@Acromegaly_Chad
Which surgeries(not implants/fillers) can give flared gonions?

 

[BugeyeBigNoseCurry]

BSSO with local sedation ?

yes possible

 

[mvp2v1]

@AscendingHero
@Acromegaly_Chad
Which surgeries(not implants/fillers) can give flared gonions?

? I hear IMDO does.

 

[ChristianChad]

@AscendingHero
@Acromegaly_Chad
Which surgeries(not implants/fillers) can give flared gonions?

Need more info on this tbh:

BSSO in which they cut and torque out (flare) your gonials

@ AscendingHero

 

[Matthias8272]

Someone posted a result from him recently

 

[Tobias Fünke]

Someone posted a result from him recently

Good result