Jaw surgery is the least looked down upon looksmax in society

[IncredibleHouse]

In case you didnt know, if you tell people youve had surgery like a lip lift, rhinoplasty, fillers, implants etc youll often be labeled as "unnatural." However, jaw surgery can really help you ascend if you are recessed, and youll still be seen as natural. Since almost everyone has had some form of orthodontic treatment, most people group a bimax and a molar extraction into the same category(medical halo). If the only reason from improving your life with a jaw surgery is that friends/girls will think youre wierd/unnatural, dw about it

 

[BWC]

water

 

[Wexilarious]

teetch extraction = looskmin and bone mass lose

 

[Rothschild]

if ppl ask u if u got surgery just deny it

 

[Deleted member 262735]

Always deny. You don't even need to come up with excuses. If you have enough fans the fans will create excuses for you.

"Oh he had an accident that required surgery, my goat would never get cosmetic surgery!"

"Oh he lost weight, he definitely didn't get surgery bro!"

 

[Foreverbrad]

We will find out after I go back to work after my Trimax.
Having to restart my life after surgery was always one of the risks I considered though.

 

[IncredibleHouse]

if ppl ask u if u got surgery just deny it

Is an option too ofc, but im christian, and i dont lie

 

[IncredibleHouse]

We will find out after I go back to work after my Trimax.
Having to restart my life after surgery was always one of the risks I considered though.

did you have great results? what was your issue with the jaws

 

[Rothschild]

Is an option too ofc, but im christian, and i dont lie

cope

cant be blackpilled and religious

 

[IncredibleHouse]

cope

cant be blackpilled and religious

Did i ever say im blackpilled?

 

[Foreverbrad]

did you have great results? what was your issue with the jaws

I’m having it in March, wouldn’t expect too much from it.

 

[Rothschild]

Did i ever say im blackpilled?

if u arent why are you on this website

 

[IncredibleHouse]

if u arent why are you on this website

for improving my looks, but i dont think looks is everything because of my own experience

 

[hye732]

In case you didnt know, if you tell people youve had surgery like a lip lift, rhinoplasty, fillers, implants etc youll often be labeled as "unnatural." However, jaw surgery can really help you ascend if you are recessed, and youll still be seen as natural. Since almost everyone has had some form of orthodontic treatment, most people group a bimax and a molar extraction into the same category(medical halo). If the only reason from improving your life with a jaw surgery is that friends/girls will think youre wierd/unnatural, dw about it

how are fillers surgery

 

[donpuro]

water

you should never ever tell a normie you got any procedures done maybe besides djs like op said

 

[ltn_looksminner]

water

you should never ever tell a normie you got any procedures done maybe besides djs like op said

bro if they ever find out it's gonna be a humiliation ritual , imagine being known as the "djs guy" , but again normies are normies

 

[donpuro]

bro if they ever find out it's gonna be a humiliation ritual , imagine being known as the "djs guy" , but again normies are normies

just claim sleep apnea or medical reasons

 

[Rothschild]

for improving my looks, but i dont think looks is everything because of my own experience

Bro you really have no concept of the blackpill go back to tiktok

 

[LackEmpathyTherefor]

Bro you really have no concept of the blackpill go back to tiktok

Looks aren’t everything

 

[BimaxPLZ]

just don't tell, why would you tell

 

[Rothschild]

Looks aren’t everything

i hope u know the blackpill is about genetic determisnm

looks and genetic determinsm arent the same thing

 

[lurking truecel]

Yea because its craniofacial reconstruction surgery, it barely helps most people. People here think they are candidate and get scammed by some botcher surgeon who does it all for some extra buck

 

[Genio]

cope

cant be blackpilled and religious

I'm a Christian, Can u explain why? just curious ofcourse because i always left it down to Humans Freewill (Mainly being why some are willing to overlook looks while others arent). Thanks.

 

[Soter]

same thing with rhino just say you had breathing problems

 

[Rothschild]

I'm a Christian, Can u explain why? just curious ofcourse because i always left it down to Humans Freewill (Mainly being why some are willing to overlook looks while others arent). Thanks.

cause god made everyone equally and perfect

the blackpill obv denies that because bp is about genetic determisnm

 

[IncredibleHouse]

Bro you really have no concept of the blackpill go back to tiktok

Blackpill is generally just a nihilistic worldview on everything. Your looks, status, money, education, height, iq, location (being born in a 3rd world country for example) everything is determined by birth. Bible actually supports that view because the world is full of sin and it always uses examples of people that werent treated fairly because of their status in society. What i thought you meant by "blackpill" is just lookism, i assumed you mean that with "blackpill" because 99% of kids on this forum confuse them and i thought ur one of them.

cause god made everyone equally and perfect

the blackpill obv denies that because bp is about genetic determisnm

Where does it say that everyone is equal in the bible? In terms of that everyone can get to heaven if they repent their sins, yes thats correct. Saying that everyone is perfect would be factually wrong because we are sinners and thats obviously not perfect. Maybe the liberal churches say that everyone is perfect and you can get into heaven by "being a good person"

 

[IncredibleHouse]

how are fillers surgery

they arent, the grammar is just wrong, english isnt my main language

 

[LS2019]

 

[Rothschild]

Blackpill is generally just a nihilistic worldview on everything. Your looks, status, money, education, height, iq, location (being born in a 3rd world country for example) everything is determined by birth. Bible actually supports that view because the world is full of sin and it always uses examples of people that werent treated fairly because of their status in society. What i thought you meant by "blackpill" is just lookism, i assumed you mean that with "blackpill" because 99% of kids on this forum confuse them and i thought ur one of them.

Where does it say that everyone is equal in the bible? In terms of that everyone can get to heaven if they repent their sins, yes thats correct. Saying that everyone is perfect would be factually wrong because we are sinners and thats obviously not perfect. Maybe the liberal churches say that everyone is perfect and you can get into heaven by "being a good person"

it says that god made everyone in his perfect image

obv people arent perfect

and the blackpill is not about nilihsm

 

[IncredibleHouse]

it says that god made everyone in his perfect image

obv people arent perfect

and the blackpill is not about nilihsm

what is the blackpill about then

 

[Nahorscend]

Blackpill is generally just a nihilistic worldview on everything. Your looks, status, money, education, height, iq, location (being born in a 3rd world country for example) everything is determined by birth. Bible actually supports that view because the world is full of sin

No. Blackpill is fundamentally about determinism. Nihilism doesn't necessarily follow from determinism. And Christianity does have some fundamental conflicts with BP, and not because of original sin, but because of free will:

I'm a Christian, Can u explain why? just curious ofcourse because i always left it down to Humans Freewill (Mainly being why some are willing to overlook looks while others arent). Thanks.

Christianity assumes we have the free will to sin or not sin, likewise to believe or not believe, which it requires for its main idea, which is that by choosing to believe you can be saved. There is generally thought to be a big conflict between free will and determinism (even if you argue they can co-exist, as some Christians have, point is BP denies one and asserts the other).

BP is not only lookism but genetic/biological determinism. For example, IQ, and even how hard-working or kind or sociable you are, may be genetically influenced. Now extend that to believing itself. What if one guy is more predisposed to thinking the Bible's claims are persuasive, whereas another isn't. Now one will be saved and one may not be. Similarly where you're born and your upbringing may influence it and you have no agency in that (at least as per BP). All this follows from the core idea of BP that your character follows from how the world treats you rather than how the world treats you following from your character.

Lookism itself (insofar as that means believing looks matter) is compatible with Christianity and you can indeed attribute the inequality to original sin/fallen world. In fact that is the point of Christianity from the perspective of a secular critic, it's to offer compensation for the injustices of this life, and say we are actually equal in some deeper spiritual way. But true BP assumes a kind of determinism that will be difficult to reconcile with Christianity.

 

[Genio]

Christianity assumes we have the free will to sin or not sin, likewise to believe or not believe, which it requires for its main idea, which is that by choosing to believe you can be saved. There is generally thought to be a big conflict between free will and determinism (even if you argue they can co-exist, as some Christians have, point is BP denies one and asserts the other).

BP is not only lookism but genetic/biological determinism. For example, IQ, and even how hard-working or kind or sociable you are, may be genetically influenced. Now extend that to believing itself. What if one guy is more predisposed to thinking the Bible's claims are persuasive, whereas another isn't. Now one will be saved and one may not be. Similarly where you're born and your upbringing may influence it and you have no agency in that (at least as per BP). All this follows from the core idea of BP that your character follows from how the world treats you rather than how the world treats you following from your character.

Lookism itself (insofar as that means believing looks matter) is compatible with Christianity and you can indeed attribute the inequality to original sin/fallen world. In fact that is the point of Christianity from the perspective of a secular critic, it's to offer compensation for the injustices of this life, and say we are actually equal in some deeper spiritual way. But true BP assumes a kind of determinism that will be difficult to reconcile with Christianity.

I see the point more clearly now. What I was missing before is that the conflict isn’t about whether biology matters, but about Genetic Determinism in a strong sense, where things like character, effort, judgment, and even receptivity to belief are treated as largely fixed rather than genuinely chosen.

If belief itself falls under that framework, then I can see why people believe the BP is Contradictory compared to Christianity, which assumes moral agency and responsibility. That way of framing things, and the kinds of attitudes it often justifies, is something I was exposed to when I was younger and didn’t fully question at the time, but I’m more critical of now.

I’m not trying to settle whether BP or Christianity is ultimately true (Or that one is Correct while the other is Utter Bogus); but just to understand where the contradiction comes from. On that level, your explanation answered my question very clearly

 

[Nahorscend]

If belief itself falls under that framework, then I can see why people believe the BP is Contradictory compared to Christianity, which assumes moral agency and responsibility.

Not even just faith but sin. You will hear this often from Christians in response to the problem of evil; 'there is sin because god gave us free will'. But according to the BP sin is the result, not the cause. BP says it's not that bad things happen to you because you're a bad person, but rather you become a bad person because bad things happen to you. The differences in perspective also change the logical solution.

Take a Christian sin like envy. If you're an unattractive person and you become bitter and envious of good looking people, for Christians (and almost all popular moralities) that envy is the starting point, as if you chose at that moment to feel the envy, and so they'll say you're suffering because of the envy, not because of your looks. --> Solution: change your mindset/outlook/perspective to feel better.

But according to the BP, your envy there is a result of the way you were born looking, and all your experiences living as you, and all of that just culminated in envy with a simple process of cause and effect. Similarly the good looking guy isn't sinning not because he used his agency to be good but because he's fortunate. The BP says you're suffering because of the same thing of which envy is merely a side-effect. --> Solution: change your material conditions (looks in this case) to feel better. This is what people mean when they make jokes like 'personality transplant' on surgery before/afters.