JAW SURGERY ON THE HOUSE❓STEP TF INSIDE ‼️🤑

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I've been looking into how much insurance would cover a bimax + marpe procedure, If gone well I would have nothing else to change about my features. So I have written a case to cut down costs as much as possible, some points true and some exaggerated but easily fakeable

Pwease give critique and improvements if anyone is willing to read

MY CASE 🤑

ORTHODONTIC HISTORY

• Severe dental crowding and narrow palate since childhood.
• Long-term mouth breathing, drooling, airway issues during growth.
• Braces for 1.5+ years → teeth straightened, skeletal issues remain.
• Orthodontist confirms: Maxilla sits downward and backward. Skeletal discrepancies cannot be fixed with braces alone.

SKELETAL / BITE FINDINGS

• Overbite with subtle crossbite.
• Very narrow maxilla and palate.
• Recessed maxilla → long midface look.
• Bite unstable; skeletal origin, not just teeth.

FUNCTIONAL IMPAIRMENTS
Chewing: Cannot chew with front teeth. Chew only with molars. Fatiguing and inefficient.
Speech: Tongue very crowded; hard to enunciate. Others report mumbling and unclear speech.
Airway / Breathing: Chronic mouth breathing esp at night. Dry mouth at wake. Nighttime awakenings. Unease breathing. Childhood asthma + immune issues.
Jaw / Muscle Strain: Jaw strained from skeletal restriction. Tuck mandible under the upper teeth to look ideal; habitually push forward for comfort when alone.

WHY PROCEDURE IS MEDICALLY NECESSARY
• Braces alone cannot fix skeletal malocclusion.
• Narrow maxilla and retrusive jaw cause:
• Chewing problems
• Speech problems
• Airway compromise
• Issues are structural, not cosmetic.
• Surgery needed to:
• Fix bite
• Improve airway
• Restore normal chewing and speech

IDEAL PROCEDURE
• MARPE
• Le Fort I maxillary advancement (± vertical adjustment)
• Bilateral sagittal split osteotomy (BSSO) for bite stability
• CCW rotation to increase airway space
• Cosmetic improvements (genio, midface implants) are secondary; can get later

INSURANCE JUSTIFICATION SUMMARY
• Documented skeletal malocclusion
• Failed orthodontics
• Functional problems: chewing, speech, airway
• History of airway symptoms
• Surgery is medically necessary, not cosmetic

→ Strong candidate for insurance-covered MARPE and Double Jaw Surgery



SLEEP STUDY SETUP
• Legs elevated, head lowered, chin tucked, sleep on back.
• Nostrils pinched and blocked with cotton. Mouth taped with small breathe slit.
• Fan near mouth
• Intense 1hr exercise and large meal before sleep
• Set loud alarms every 60–90 minutes
• Sleep deprived 3–4 days before study

HYPOTHETICAL OBSERVED FINDINGS:
• Frequent nighttime awakenings.
• Snoring and/or abnormal breathing during sleep.
• Mouth breathing necessary due to limited airway space.
• Oxygen saturation drops during sleep.

FINAL INTERPRETATION:
• Obstructive sleep events indicate airway restriction.
• Skeletal structure contributes to airway collapse.
• Functional issues confirm need for surgical intervention.
• Procedure would: Widen maxilla, Advance both jaws, Improve airway volume and sleep quality.
• Diagnosis: structural airway compromise with high risk for sleep-disordered breathing / obstructive sleep apnea (OSA).


AND NOW I HAVE (virtually) FREE MARPE AND JAW SURGERY 🤤



If anyone has had an insurance covered MARPE and/or DJS PLEASE share your experience or tag someone who has ✌️
 
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mirin effort
 
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Bump :forcedsmile:
 
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brutal effort but no reply
I like the title I will use the same style next thread
 
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Bump :HYPERS:
 
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Help me out here brothers
 
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First of all, at-home sleep study won't work, you have to take it at a special lab room.
Second, if you had orthodontic camouflage done and your bite is "fine", you have no OSA then you can forget about your bimax.
 
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First of all, at-home sleep study won't work, you have to take it at a special lab room.
Second, if you had orthodontic camouflage done and your bite is "fine", you have no OSA then you can forget about your bimax.
I’m being given the option for an at-home sleep study

My bite still has a subtle malocclusion but regardless of some exaggerated claims I do have issues that even my orthodontist says I should take up with a maxillofacial surgeon if they are a rash problem

How is a proper bite correlated to OSA diagnosis? My palate and maxilla are still narrow as well so it’s more then malocclusions
 
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Nice I’m just getting filler
 
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Bump wanna hear more
 
I've been looking into how much insurance would cover a bimax + marpe procedure, If gone well I would have nothing else to change about my features. So I have written a case to cut down costs as much as possible, some points true and some exaggerated but easily fakeable

Pwease give critique and improvements if anyone is willing to read

MY CASE 🤑

ORTHODONTIC HISTORY

• Severe dental crowding and narrow palate since childhood.
• Long-term mouth breathing, drooling, airway issues during growth.
• Braces for 1.5+ years → teeth straightened, skeletal issues remain.
• Orthodontist confirms: Maxilla sits downward and backward. Skeletal discrepancies cannot be fixed with braces alone.

SKELETAL / BITE FINDINGS

• Overbite with subtle crossbite.
• Very narrow maxilla and palate.
• Recessed maxilla → long midface look.
• Bite unstable; skeletal origin, not just teeth.

FUNCTIONAL IMPAIRMENTS
Chewing: Cannot chew with front teeth. Chew only with molars. Fatiguing and inefficient.
Speech: Tongue very crowded; hard to enunciate. Others report mumbling and unclear speech.
Airway / Breathing: Chronic mouth breathing esp at night. Dry mouth at wake. Nighttime awakenings. Unease breathing. Childhood asthma + immune issues.
Jaw / Muscle Strain: Jaw strained from skeletal restriction. Tuck mandible under the upper teeth to look ideal; habitually push forward for comfort when alone.

WHY PROCEDURE IS MEDICALLY NECESSARY
• Braces alone cannot fix skeletal malocclusion.
• Narrow maxilla and retrusive jaw cause:
• Chewing problems
• Speech problems
• Airway compromise
• Issues are structural, not cosmetic.
• Surgery needed to:
• Fix bite
• Improve airway
• Restore normal chewing and speech

IDEAL PROCEDURE
• MARPE
• Le Fort I maxillary advancement (± vertical adjustment)
• Bilateral sagittal split osteotomy (BSSO) for bite stability
• CCW rotation to increase airway space
• Cosmetic improvements (genio, midface implants) are secondary; can get later

INSURANCE JUSTIFICATION SUMMARY
• Documented skeletal malocclusion
• Failed orthodontics
• Functional problems: chewing, speech, airway
• History of airway symptoms
• Surgery is medically necessary, not cosmetic

→ Strong candidate for insurance-covered MARPE and Double Jaw Surgery



SLEEP STUDY SETUP
• Legs elevated, head lowered, chin tucked, sleep on back.
• Nostrils pinched and blocked with cotton. Mouth taped with small breathe slit.
• Fan near mouth
• Intense 1hr exercise and large meal before sleep
• Set loud alarms every 60–90 minutes
• Sleep deprived 3–4 days before study

HYPOTHETICAL OBSERVED FINDINGS:
• Frequent nighttime awakenings.
• Snoring and/or abnormal breathing during sleep.
• Mouth breathing necessary due to limited airway space.
• Oxygen saturation drops during sleep.

FINAL INTERPRETATION:
• Obstructive sleep events indicate airway restriction.
• Skeletal structure contributes to airway collapse.
• Functional issues confirm need for surgical intervention.
• Procedure would: Widen maxilla, Advance both jaws, Improve airway volume and sleep quality.
• Diagnosis: structural airway compromise with high risk for sleep-disordered breathing / obstructive sleep apnea (OSA).


AND NOW I HAVE (virtually) FREE MARPE AND JAW SURGERY 🤤



If anyone has had an insurance covered MARPE and/or DJS PLEASE share your experience or tag someone who has ✌️
mate are we deadass
 
How did you get them to consider marpe?
I'm seeing my ortho soon to get my braces off and I feel like need it. I'mma make a case but I'll see what happens first.
 
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How did you get them to consider marpe?
I'm seeing my ortho soon to get my braces off and I feel like need it. I'mma make a case but I'll see what happens first.
I havent successfully gotten them to yet, hopefully will happen on my appointment tomorrow

I have a narrow palate to begin with and even my orthodontist is aware of it but this fag doesn't want to do anything about it
 
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How'd it go?
 
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How'd it go?
Talked to my orthodontist yesterday to see if he personally knows any good maxillofacial surgeons for a consult, he gave me a name and suggested I take an at-home sleep study before I go

I forgot to even ask about marpe and I lost hope in asking since he has been reluctant in the past but he himself told me it might be beneficial to get both a jaw surgery and marpe if the study shows I have problems

Once I take it I'll update with how the study went and what I ended up doing for it
 
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I am in the same boat as you, have pretty much the same problems as you mention in your case.. i just hope im provided with an at home sleep study, idk how to larp sleep apnea at a lab sleep study tho
 
Talked to my orthodontist yesterday to see if he personally knows any good maxillofacial surgeons for a consult, he gave me a name and suggested I take an at-home sleep study before I go

I forgot to even ask about marpe and I lost hope in asking since he has been reluctant in the past but he himself told me it might be beneficial to get both a jaw surgery and marpe if the study shows I have problems

Once I take it I'll update with how the study went and what I ended up doing for it
Hey did you do it yet??? If so, were u successful at role playing sleep apnea?
 
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wishing the best bro post an update if things get started
 
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