Jaw Surgery: The Risks No One Tells You About

[yolo23]

I agree with the stickied Realitypill thread about the risks of surgical operations.
For those who didn't see it, here is the thread: https://looksmax.org/threads/the-realitypill-easier-said-than-done.1414566/

I just wanted to add my take on it on what I learned about Jaw Surgery:

Jaw surgery is one of the most complex facial surgeries you can get, and there are a lot of things that can go wrong. After spending a lot of time reading through forums, patient stories, and social media posts, I’ve seen a wide range of complications that people experience — some temporary, some permanent.

Here’s what stood out to me:

1. Nerve Damage and Loss of Sensation​

• Permanent numbness in the chin, lower lip, or upper lip.
• Sometimes numbness affects your mouth — gums, upper palate, or inside of the cheeks.
• This isn’t “just numbness.” It can impact daily life:
  • Not feeling food stuck on your lips.
  • Burning your lips when drinking hot drinks.
  • Kissing not feeling the same.
  • Not realizing you still have food or pills in your mouth.
  • Chronic sharp pain in lips/chin.
  • Sensitivity to cold weather.
• Even a genioplasty (chin surgery) alone can cause permanent lower lip/chin numbness.
• The older you are, the less likely nerve sensation will recover — and the more severe the numbness can be.

2. Changes to Nose and Sinuses (Upper Jaw Surgery)​

• Upper jaw (Le Fort) surgery can widen your nose, make it crooked, or change its shape — sometimes requiring rhinoplasty afterward.
• Cuts in the maxilla can lead to chronic sinus infections.

3. Aesthetic Trade-Offs​

• Maxilla impaction can make the philtrum appear longer.
• Sometimes it causes a gummy smile (even though it’s supposed to reduce one).
• It can also reduce tooth show — so you might only see upper teeth when fully smiling, with no lower teeth visible.
• Before/after photos can be misleading — often showing only flattering angles. From the front, the surgery can create:
  • Longer face appearance.
  • Longer philtrum.
  • “Dog/monkey maxxing” (uncanny proportions).
• Teeth photos are also selectively shown — sometimes they still don’t fully close your bite, or lips remain apart.

4. Joint-Related Risks (TMJ/TMD)​

• If you already have issues like Idiopathic Condylar Resorption (ICR) or a steep mandibular angle, you’re at higher risk for relapse or TMJ problems.
• These problems can cause chronic pain, limited mouth opening, difficulty chewing, and speech issues.
• Severe cases may require total joint replacement (TJR) — a 6–7 hour surgery with serious risks and side effects.
• Even braces alone can worsen ICR — so get screened before starting any orthodontic or jaw work.
• More jaw movement or aggressive counter-clockwise (CCW) rotation = higher risk of relapse, nerve damage, and other complications.

5. Recovery, Revisions, and Realistic Expectations​

• Surgery can require 1–2 years in braces, with 1 year often being post-op.
• Infections and revision surgeries are possible.
• You may experience temporary hair loss for months, and in rare cases it can last longer.
• Looksmaxing with jaw surgery is often overstated — most before/after transformations are modest (incel to incel/sub 8 to sub 8) unless the person already had strong features. They also don't tell the story of what were the trade offs with these cases, what kind of nerve damage/health issues they developed as a result of the surgery, or some that relapsed later or had to have additional revisions.
• By the time you complete the process, natural aging might reduce some of the aesthetic gains.
• Functional or breathing issues are usually the best reasons to get surgery — purely aesthetic motivations may not be worth the risks.
• Timing matters — younger patients (around age 20) tend to recover better with fewer complications.

Jaw surgery can be life-changing for function, but it’s also a major gamble with your health/quality of life for aesthetics alone. The risks range from mild to life-altering, and no amount of before/after photos can guarantee your result. If you’re considering it, make sure you fully understand the trade-offs, get properly screened, and have realistic expectations.

 

[Bryce]

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[FlourideGoyium]

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[aids]

Why do you regurgitate AI-written slop and act like it is yours + you have found some new information people aren’t already aware of? This is a dog shit thread.