Jesus taught once saved always saved,and paul confirmed what faith is

[yandex99]

Romans 10:10

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10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.

John 10:28-30

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28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all[a]; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are one.”
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it's funny because I literally heard sam shamoun (a hellbound catholic)say'believing is something you do not something in your heart'in one of his videos

 

[yandex99]

@PrinceLuenLeoncur

 

[ToryToad]

It just means that some are chosen by God to be in heaven in the afterlife and others are not.Not that you are once saved always saved ,people who were once saved and died unsaved are in hell (these people for example are not chosen)

 

[yandex99]

It just means that some are chosen by God to be in heaven in the afterlife and others are not.Not that you are once saved always saved ,people who were once saved and died unsaved are in hell (these people for example are not chosen)

Ephesians 1:13
KJ21
In Christ ye also trusted after ye heard the word of truth, the Gospel of your salvation, in Whom also after ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Ephesians 4:30

KJ21
And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.


sealed until the day of redemption NOT 'next time you sin'

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

@PrinceLuenLeoncur

Not gonna debate your dumbass on this shit when you can’t even tell me how you know what the cannon of the Bible is.

Where did you get the cannon, who gave you the cannon and when was the cannon finalised and please name JUST ONE PERSON in the first 1k years of the religion that had the same cannon as Protestants and one person that held the same belief in faith alone and scripture alone until you do that I’m ignoring you and your 300 year old cult of heresies.

Thankfully the liberals and Muslims are destroying your faggot cult and all the men have left leaving your cults 80% female lol

 

[yandex99]

Not gonna debate your dumbass on this shit when you can’t even tell me how you know what the cannon of the Bible is.

Where did you get the cannon, who gave you the cannon and when was the cannon finalised and please name JUST ONE PERSON that had the same cannon as Protestants and one person that held the same belief in faith alone and scripture alone until you do that I’m ignoring you and your 300 year old cult of heresies.

Thankfully the liberals and Muslims are destroying your faggot cult and all the men have left leaving your cults 80% female lol

do orthodox and catholics not accept john,ephesians and romans?

 

[Ripper]

Not gonna debate your dumbass on this shit when you can’t even tell me how you know what the cannon of the Bible is.

Where did you get the cannon, who gave you the cannon and when was the cannon finalised and please name JUST ONE PERSON in the first 1k years of the religion that had the same cannon as Protestants and one person that held the same belief in faith alone and scripture alone until you do that I’m ignoring you and your 300 year old cult of heresies.

Thankfully the liberals and Muslims are destroying your faggot cult and all the men have left leaving your cults 80% female lol

nga hasnt taken 1 theology class

 

[ToryToad]

Ephesians 1:13
KJ21
In Christ ye also trusted after ye heard the word of truth, the Gospel of your salvation, in Whom also after ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Ephesians 4:30

KJ21
And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.


sealed until the day of redemption NOT 'next time you sin'

hebrews 6:4 - 6
It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age and who have fallen away, to be brought back to repentance. To their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace

 

[yandex99]

nga hasnt taken 1 theology class

see this entire playlist

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

nga hasnt taken 1 theology class

Ofc he hasn’t. Anybody who took one history and theology class would realise evangelicalism is not Christianity it’s a whole new retarded religion made in the last 300 years

 

[yandex99]

Ofc he hasn’t. Anybody who took one history and theology class would realise evangelicalism is not Christianity it’s a whole new retarded religion made in the last 300 years

its important to rely on what saieth GOD not what saieth apostate church fathers

 

[Ripper]

Ofc he hasn’t. Anybody who took one history and theology class would realise evangelicalism is not Christianity it’s a whole new retarded religion made in the last 300 years

r u a Christian or nah

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

r u a Christian or nah

Use your brain what do you think. Nigga can see my avi my title and 90% off my threads being on religion and bullying Mohammedens back into their black cube from transformers and nigga is asking me if I’m Christian

 

[yandex99]

hebrews 6:4 - 6
It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age and who have fallen away, to be brought back to repentance. To their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace

 

[Ripper]

Use your brain what do you think. Nigga can see my avi my title and 90% off my threads being on religion and bullying Mohammedens back into their black cube from transformers and nigga is asking me if I’m Christian

didnt read ur threads and ur avi could be a troll mb nga

 

[yandex99]

Use your brain what do you think. Nigga can see my avi my title and 90% off my threads being on religion and bullying Mohammedens back into their black cube from transformers and nigga is asking me if I’m Christian

Smith's Literal Translation
Thou shalt not be greatly just; and thou shalt not be exceedingly wise: wherefore wilt thou be made desolate?

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

do orthodox and catholics not accept john,ephesians and romans?

Ofc we do, but you know who accepted the book of Wisdom? Book of Maccabies and even sited the book of Enoch?

Paul, he literally references Wisdom 13:1-10 in Romans 1:18-25
He references the Martyrs of the Maccabian revolt in Hebrews 11:35-37

In Jude he even QUOTES from book of Enoch

Do you know who literally referenced himself as the wisdom of God from the book of Wisdom? Jesus buddy Jesus did he claimed to be the intellect of god (Sophia) in Greek
Luke 11:49 1 Corinthians 1:24 based on book of Wisdom 7:22-24, 8:1-9, and 9:1-4,

Now little protestcuck sit TF down and learn your place nobody even the Apostles believed in anything you Dickheads believed in @Jason Voorhees come see why your Evanglicalism is false and as fake as Islam instead of tagging me into genocide threads

 

[ChickenAndRiceBrah]

This Jewish nonsense is the root of the cucked mentality the West has to this day

 

[yandex99]

Ofc we do, but you know who accepted the book of Wisdom? Book of Maccabies and even sited the book of Enoch?

Paul, he literally references Wisdom 13:1-10 in Romans 1:18-25
He references the Martyrs of the Maccabian revolt in Hebrews 11:35-37

In Jude he even QUOTES from book of Enoch

Do you know who literally referenced himself as the wisdom of God from the book of Wisdom? Jesus buddy Jesus did he claimed to be the intellect of god (Sophia) in Greek
Luke 11:49 1 Corinthians 1:24 based on book of Wisdom 7:22-24, 8:1-9, and 9:1-4,

Now little protestcuck sit TF down and learn your place nobody even the Apostles believed in anything you Dickheads believed in @Jason Voorhees come see why your Evanglicalism is false and as fake as Islam instead of tagging me into genocide threads

the word of God commands you to not be greatly righteous.you will destroy yourself.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

the word of God commands you to not be greatly righteous.you will destroy yourself.

There you go, your dumbass had no answer because you know you lost now fuck off and keep your lying heathen mouth shut

its important to rely on what saieth GOD not what saieth apostate church fathers

The apostate church fathers that founded the philosophical language we use to explain the incarnation? How to defend it and even the WORD TRINITY the same church fathers that were LITERALLY DISCIPLES OF THE APOSTLES? THE SAME CHURCH FATHERS THAT ALONGSIDE THE WHOLE CHURCH PUT TOGETHER THE BOOK IN YOUR HAND YOU CALL THE BIBLE

Lmfao this is what Evangelicalism gets you
@ToryToad no need to respond to him again I have already crushed him in 2 comments lol

 

[ToryToad]

There you go, your dumbass had no answer because you know you lost now fuck off and keep your lying heathen mouth shut


The apostate church fathers that founded the philosophical language we use to explain the incarnation? How to defend it and even the WORD TRINITY the same church fathers that were LITERALLY DISCIPLES OF THE APOSTLES? THE SAME CHURCH FATHERS THAT ALONGSIDE THE WHOLE CHURCH PUT TOGETHER THE BOOK IN YOUR HAND YOU CALL THE BIBLE

Lmfao this is what Evangelicalism gets you
@ToryToad no need to respond to him again I have already crushed him in 2 comments lol

thx bro

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

thx bro

Don’t worry I’m the resident apologist here I smack done every heresy be it Mohammedism and his gay pagan cult, be it the gay cult of Evanglicalism and their mentally unstable Pentecostal jitters they claim is the Holy Spirit lol

Or even the Gaytheidt faggots which have 0
Meaning to life

 

[yandex99]

There you go, your dumbass had no answer because you know you lost now fuck off and keep your lying heathen mouth shut


The apostate church fathers that founded the philosophical language we use to explain the incarnation? How to defend it and even the WORD TRINITY the same church fathers that were LITERALLY DISCIPLES OF THE APOSTLES? THE SAME CHURCH FATHERS THAT ALONGSIDE THE WHOLE CHURCH PUT TOGETHER THE BOOK IN YOUR HAND YOU CALL THE BIBLE

Lmfao this is what Evangelicalism gets you
@ToryToad no need to respond to him again I have already crushed him in 2 comments lol

says who?just because they were disciples of the apostles according to some corrupted catholic later record doesn't mean they were.

and even if so.so what?

and as for the deutorocanonicals,I accept them as scripture because lutheran and [protestant bibles had them until the late 19th century they just got rid of them when they had to print bibles enmasse to make it cheaper.protestants always accepted the deutorcanonicals.

 

[yandex99]

Don’t worry I’m the resident apologist here I smack done every heresy be it Mohammedism and his gay pagan cult, be it the gay cult of Evanglicalism and their mentally unstable Pentecostal jitters they claim is the Holy Spirit lol

Or even the Gaytheidt faggots which have 0
Meaning to life

I just told you the WORD of GOD says don't be greatly righteous.

don't change the topic.

don't defy GOD.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

says who?just because they were disciples of the apostles according to some corrupted catholic later record doesn't mean they were.

and even if so.so what?

and as for the deutorocanonicals,I accept them as scripture because lutheran and [protestant bibles had them until the late 19th century they just got rid of them when they had to print bibles enmasse to make it cheaper.protestants always accepted the deutorcanonicals.

Catholic letter?

Ok here’s a question when did the “Roman Catholic” church come into existence

Because the early church wasn’t Roman Catholic lol.

Do you know what the word Catholic means?

Do any Protestant churches accept the Deuterocannon? Why do you even trust the deuteocannon you have no basis to trust any of scripture And how do you know the cannon of scripture ? Where did the Bible come from which group or people put the Bible together? How do you even know Matthew wrote Matthew, Luke wrote Luke etc? How do you know because they never signed their names off on it?


How do you know any of this how and why do you even trust the Bible? At this point?

 

[yandex99]

Catholic letter?

Ok here’s a question when did the “Roman Catholic” church come into existence

Because the early church wasn’t Roman Catholic lol.

Do you know what the word Catholic means?

Do any Protestant churches accept the Deuterocannon? And how do you know the cannon of scripture ? Where did the Bible come from which group or people put the Bible together? How do you even know Matthew wrote Matthew, Luke wrote Luke etc? How do you know because they never signed their names off on it?


How do you know any of this how and why do you even trust the Bible? At this point

because all christian communities accepted them as scripture.

the thing is is that you are idolizing men over the word.which is why you're going to hell.

now answer the verse I quoted.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

because all christian communities accepted them as scripture.

the thing is is that you are idolizing men over the word.which is why you're going to hell.

now answer the verse I quoted.

No they didn’t, the eastern church and the western church didn’t have the same cannon until the council of Trullo where the east accepted Revelation In The 7th century

The church fathers didn’t all share the same cannon, Cyril’s cannon isn’t the same as Justin and his isn’t the same as Athanasius and Jerome and John Damascus etc and these men differ from 600 years difference with John Damascus being alive to write about Islam and Justin Martyr being from the 1st century showing the cannon wasn’t this one set end all be all thing

So how do you know the cannon you have is the CORRECT cannon? You can’t appeal to “All the communities had it” because as I said THEY DIDNT even cannon 85 isn’t the same as the fathers cannon I mentioned so please do tell me what episodic basis do you have to say you know the cannon of scripture if you cannot appeal to the tradition of the ancient Church and Fathers?

Also what you said is an appeal to consensus that doesn’t tell me how you know It to be true because you said you denied tradition of the saints and church but seek to now Contradict yourself by appealing to the tradition of the early church none of which held your view


What is this “Word” you speak off? Is it the Bible the book compiled by the church and put together as a tradition of MEN which THE CHURCH FATHERS PUT TOGETHER.

No it cannot be can it

 

[yandex99]

No they didn’t, the eastern church and the western church didn’t have the same cannon until the council of Trullo where the east accepted Revelation In The 7th century

The church fathers didn’t all share the same cannon, Cyril’s cannon isn’t the same as Justin and his isn’t the same as Athanasius and Jerome and John Damascus etc and these men differ from 600 years difference with John Damascus being alive to write about Islam and Justin Martyr being from the 1st century showing the cannon wasn’t this one set end all be all thing

So how do you know the cannon you have is the CORRECT cannon? You can’t appeal to “All the communities had it” because as I said THEY DIDNT even cannon 85 isn’t the same as the fathers cannon I mentioned so please do tell me what episodic basis do you have to say you know the cannon of scripture if you cannot appeal to the tradition of the ancient Church and Fathers?

Also what you said is an appeal to consensus that doesn’t tell me how you know It to be true because you said you denied tradition of the saints and church but seek to now Contradict yourself by appealing to the tradition of the early church none of which held your view

our grace filled holy spirit churches accept these as word.that's enough for me.

I don't consider non-osas christians to even be christians.

now stop changing the topic or I will stop replying to you.the topic is osas.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

our grace filled holy spirit churches accept these as word.that's enough for me.

I don't consider non-osas christians to even be christians.

now stop changing the topic or I will stop replying to you.the topic is osas.

So you have no answer to anything I said Lol, your assuming your churches are filled with the Holy Spirit but instead it’s filled with Prosperity preachers which suck the money from their cultists like vampires. You have no Normative means to state how you know the Bible is Inspired or that the Holy Spirit is protecting scripture

Ok let’s end it here your clearly done lmfao don’t reply to me again unless you have a good answer if your next reply is bad your entering my ignore forever I’m sick and tired kf
Dialoging with idiots like you

 

[yandex99]

So you have no answer to anything I said Lol, your assuming your churches are filled with the Holy Spirit but instead it’s filled with Prosperity preachers which suck the money from their cultists like vampires. You have no Normative means to state how you know the Bible is Inspired or that the Holy Spirit is protecting scripture

Ok let’s end it here your clearly done lmfao don’t reply to me again unless you have a good answer if your next reply is bad your entering my ignore forever I’m sick and tired kf
Dialoging with idiots like you

prosperity preachers?protestants have vast differences now you're just lying.

you won't answer the verse I quoted from the spirit which SAYS DONT BE GREATLY RIGHTEOUS

God created us as sinners and doesn't require us to be 100% sinless,he is a God of mercy,grace and kindness

Audio Cross Study Comm Greek Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version However, to the one who does not work but trusts God who justifies the ungodly, their faith is credited as righteousness.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

prosperity preachers?protestants have vast differences now you're just lying.

you won't answer the verse I quoted from the spirit which SAYS DONT BE GREATLY RIGHTEOUS

God created us as sinners and doesn't require us to be 100% sinless,he is a God of mercy,grace and kindness

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Audio Cross Study Comm Greek Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version However, to the one who does not work but trusts God who justifies the ungodly, their faith is credited as righteousness.

Why should I answer you when you have no reason to epistemically justify why the Bible is to be Divinely inspired? St this point im
Just agnostic on the matter you have yet to give me a coherent explanation as to why I ought to even trust the Bible. You haven’t even given me a reason as to why I ought to belive in your own interpretation of texts you can’t even tell me who wrote them or who put the collection of books together and why the books are trustworthy

Hell even your explanation for Romans 4:5 is an interpretation from the reformers in the last 500 years so why ought I trust them over the apostolic witness of the Church which put the Bible together in the first place? What makes them correct
Your a fucking loser

 

[yandex99]

Why should I answer you when you have no reason to epistemically justify why the Bible is to be Divinely inspired? St this point im
Just agnostic on the matter you have yet to give me a coherent explanation as to why I ought to even trust the Bible. You haven’t even given me a reason as to why I ought to belive in your own interpretation of texts you can’t even tell me who wrote them or who put the collection of books together and why the books are trustworthy

Hell even your explanation for Romans 4:5 is an interpretation from the reformers in the last 500 years so why ought I trust them over the apostolic witness of the Church which put the Bible together in the first place? What makes them correct
Your a fucking loser

I LITERALLY just told you,and you're again not staying on topic,

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

I LITERALLY just told you,and you're again not staying on topic,

Ok bye I have you ample chances and now you have proven to the forum you have failed to justify and defend Sola Scripture and Fide now sit tf down bitch enjoy my ignore forever

Had you just said you didn’t know I’d have had mercy on you but cos you feign ignorance I must cut you off

 

[yandex99]

Ok bye I have you ample chances and now you have proven to the forum you have failed to justify and defend Sola Scripture and Fide now sit tf down bitch enjoy my ignore forever

Had you just said you didn’t know I’d have had mercy on you but cos you feign ignorance I must cut you off

in the book of romans and ephesians,st.paul uses trhe example of abraham(a man justified before the law came into being),and says if it is of grace it is no longer works or grace is no longer grace,and if it be of work it is no lomnger grace or iwork is no longer work.


the decievers and false christs cannot justifiabely reinterpret that clear truth for their twisted works based gospel,by saying works are works of the mosiac law not the law of christ or whatever bs they and sam shamoun come up with.

it's impossible.