try do what im doing start now and dont look back
your t isnt high and thats just a placebo
I'm over here stroking my dick I got lotion on my dick right now I'm just stroking my shit I'm horny as fuck man I'm a freak man like
Me 20 minutes ago
Why? Because you see your body as "you" and not an independent thing trying to convince, persuade and intoxicating your perception to comply to its animalistic desires.
Why? Because you see your body as "you" and not an independent thing trying to convince, persuade and intoxicating your perception to comply to its animalistic desires.
Stoic endurance only lasts so long. Discipline only goes so far. As long as you're attached, you're just resisting a temptation you secretly want.
Only detachment and the proper application of focus on productive thinking that exterminates such thoughts from entering and/or staying in your mind will prevent relapsing.
An example of focusing on productive thinking: Focusing on the fact that your body is intoxicating you to comply with it's animalistic desire to procreate, observing it with complete detachment, watching your body cling, crave and create persuasive narratives to comply. Just observe and detach from it, let the body try to persuade you, it will eventually subside. Do this over and over again for a long time and you'll slowly become desexualized, detached and unaffected by sexual stimulus and responses, and eventually you won't even have them anymore.
Also, be focused on what causes lust to arise as well.
Also, question "Why am I horny?" until your brain hurts and you've literally ran out of ideas in this observant, detached state. You'll find (like I have) that you perceive certain sensory stimulus as a gateway to feel pleasurable feelings in some way, and that perception is so, so deeply entrenched that your body automatically ignites a biological response without your conscious approval.
To defeat this response, you must constantly be laser focused, observant and detached (mindfulness) at the arising, endurance and waning of lust. Your goal is to not react and drop the veil of lust through sheer observation. Doing this everyday will lead to the realization (like I have) that all you're seeing is a bunch of moving visual stimulus, and that stimulus is tainted by the perception that you can get very positive feelings by acting on that stimulus, therefore eliciting an automatic response (getting hard, and feeling horny), inciting you (who is identified with the body, and not seeing it as a separate entity) to fap, not realizing that fapping is unsatisfactory, leads to suffering and that lust is impermanent and will eventually subside if you wait it out.
Post nut clarity hurts so bad because the intoxicant is gone, like a curtain, showing the true nature of the act committed.
This is why lust is so enthralling and alluring. The intoxicant is in full swing, like a curtain, hiding the true nature of the act that will be committed.
Here's an extreme exercise you can do right now that I learned a lot from.
Go on a pornography site and watch a video (preferably a long one) and focus and observe the video, detached. Cease the lustful perception tainting your mind and just watch the video, detached as if you were merely a soulless camera just taking in or recording visual stimulus.
If you can hold that completely detached state for a long time, like I did once (haven't been able to replicate it since it's so hard to do), you'll find something miraculous.
It was like Plato's allegory of the cave, I was freed from the flawed perception, the illusion.
- Your body is telling your mind to tell the ego (sense of identity/you) to pull out the most seductive, compelling, alluring, persuasive sales pitch of all time on why you should take your right or left hand off of your phone and on your dick and fap.
- Your brain and mind is so sexualized to the point that you'll see that they'll literally attempt to take over control of your hand to get you to do the act.
- You'll see all the defects of the mind that taint your perception into believing that fapping is something that is very, very important and must be acted upon immediately. Observe, detached. Resisting assumes you're depriving yourself of something you want. Observation combined with detachment slowly removes the want by developing wisdom, this leads me to the last point.
- The most shocking, life changing thing I've discovered in the past 90 days is that I was literally able to watch porn, hold that intense mindful concentration for a while and I literally felt my dick shrink, the sexual perception waned significantly, and it was if I induced post nut clarity without ejaculation, of course without the shame since I've never ejaculated. I saw porn for what it really was, a bunch of moving pixels, nothing more nothing less. It was so profound, like I saw the end of the tunnel that nobody has been to. The land in which lust can't exist. I was so profoundly surprised at that realization. I realized that the brain can actually turn off its sexuality button. I was free, for like 3 seconds. I couldn't hold that intense focus and detachment and it all came back again.
Of course, I still have more to learn about lust but that's my input.
Even I still haven't defeated it, despite knowing all of this due to clinging to the idea that I should pursue that pleasure and not staying detached
This took me ~30 minutes to write.
how? what do you mean by that?
Better pumps in gym, better sex drive, more erections, better sleep, more energy, clearer headspace, enjoyed the smaller things (basic interactions, schoolwork, stuff like that) and my hobbies more. These are the main benefits of no fap since actual porn addiction fucks up your dopamine system the same way coke or something does.
I think I had better memory too
Erm learn self control dont do no fap
thats even too much,you wouldnt get it tbh
Why? Because you see your body as "you" and not an independent thing trying to convince, persuade and intoxicating your perception to comply to its animalistic desires.
Stoic endurance only lasts so long. Discipline only goes so far. As long as you're attached, you're just resisting a temptation you secretly want.
Only detachment and the proper application of focus on productive thinking that exterminates such thoughts from entering and/or staying in your mind will prevent relapsing.
An example of focusing on productive thinking: Focusing on the fact that your body is intoxicating you to comply with it's animalistic desire to procreate, observing it with complete detachment, watching your body cling, crave and create persuasive narratives to comply. Just observe and detach from it, let the body try to persuade you, it will eventually subside. Do this over and over again for a long time and you'll slowly become desexualized, detached and unaffected by sexual stimulus and responses, and eventually you won't even have them anymore.
Also, be focused on what causes lust to arise as well.
Also, question "Why am I horny?" until your brain hurts and you've literally ran out of ideas in this observant, detached state. You'll find (like I have) that you perceive certain sensory stimulus as a gateway to feel pleasurable feelings in some way, and that perception is so, so deeply entrenched that your body automatically ignites a biological response without your conscious approval.
To defeat this response, you must constantly be laser focused, observant and detached (mindfulness) at the arising, endurance and waning of lust. Your goal is to not react and drop the veil of lust through sheer observation. Doing this everyday will lead to the realization (like I have) that all you're seeing is a bunch of moving visual stimulus, and that stimulus is tainted by the perception that you can get very positive feelings by acting on that stimulus, therefore eliciting an automatic response (getting hard, and feeling horny), inciting you (who is identified with the body, and not seeing it as a separate entity) to fap, not realizing that fapping is unsatisfactory, leads to suffering and that lust is impermanent and will eventually subside if you wait it out.
Post nut clarity hurts so bad because the intoxicant is gone, like a curtain, showing the true nature of the act committed.
This is why lust is so enthralling and alluring. The intoxicant is in full swing, like a curtain, hiding the true nature of the act that will be committed.
Here's an extreme exercise you can do right now that I learned a lot from.
Go on a pornography site and watch a video (preferably a long one) and focus and observe the video, detached. Cease the lustful perception tainting your mind and just watch the video, detached as if you were merely a soulless camera just taking in or recording visual stimulus.
If you can hold that completely detached state for a long time, like I did once (haven't been able to replicate it since it's so hard to do), you'll find something miraculous.
It was like Plato's allegory of the cave, I was freed from the flawed perception, the illusion.
- Your body is telling your mind to tell the ego (sense of identity/you) to pull out the most seductive, compelling, alluring, persuasive sales pitch of all time on why you should take your right or left hand off of your phone and on your dick and fap.
- Your brain and mind is so sexualized to the point that you'll see that they'll literally attempt to take over control of your hand to get you to do the act.
- You'll see all the defects of the mind that taint your perception into believing that fapping is something that is very, very important and must be acted upon immediately. Observe, detached. Resisting assumes you're depriving yourself of something you want. Observation combined with detachment slowly removes the want by developing wisdom, this leads me to the last point.
- The most shocking, life changing thing I've discovered in the past 90 days is that I was literally able to watch porn, hold that intense mindful concentration for a while and I literally felt my dick shrink, the sexual perception waned significantly, and it was if I induced post nut clarity without ejaculation, of course without the shame since I've never ejaculated. I saw porn for what it really was, a bunch of moving pixels, nothing more nothing less. It was so profound, like I saw the end of the tunnel that nobody has been to. The land in which lust can't exist. I was so profoundly surprised at that realization. I realized that the brain can actually turn off its sexuality button. I was free, for like 3 seconds. I couldn't hold that intense focus and detachment and it all came back again.
Of course, I still have more to learn about lust but that's my input.
Even I still haven't defeated it, despite knowing all of this due to clinging to the idea that I should pursue that pleasure and not staying detached
This took me ~30 minutes to write.
@guuguugaagaa
Goal
Why? Because you see your body as "you" and not an independent thing trying to convince, persuade and intoxicating your perception to comply to its animalistic desires.
Stoic endurance only lasts so long. Discipline only goes so far. As long as you're attached, you're just resisting a temptation you secretly want.
Only detachment and the proper application of focus on productive thinking that exterminates such thoughts from entering and/or staying in your mind will prevent relapsing.
An example of focusing on productive thinking: Focusing on the fact that your body is intoxicating you to comply with it's animalistic desire to procreate, observing it with complete detachment, watching your body cling, crave and create persuasive narratives to comply. Just observe and detach from it, let the body try to persuade you, it will eventually subside. Do this over and over again for a long time and you'll slowly become desexualized, detached and unaffected by sexual stimulus and responses, and eventually you won't even have them anymore.
Also, be focused on what causes lust to arise as well.
Also, question "Why am I horny?" until your brain hurts and you've literally ran out of ideas in this observant, detached state. You'll find (like I have) that you perceive certain sensory stimulus as a gateway to feel pleasurable feelings in some way, and that perception is so, so deeply entrenched that your body automatically ignites a biological response without your conscious approval.
To defeat this response, you must constantly be laser focused, observant and detached (mindfulness) at the arising, endurance and waning of lust. Your goal is to not react and drop the veil of lust through sheer observation. Doing this everyday will lead to the realization (like I have) that all you're seeing is a bunch of moving visual stimulus, and that stimulus is tainted by the perception that you can get very positive feelings by acting on that stimulus, therefore eliciting an automatic response (getting hard, and feeling horny), inciting you (who is identified with the body, and not seeing it as a separate entity) to fap, not realizing that fapping is unsatisfactory, leads to suffering and that lust is impermanent and will eventually subside if you wait it out.
Post nut clarity hurts so bad because the intoxicant is gone, like a curtain, showing the true nature of the act committed.
This is why lust is so enthralling and alluring. The intoxicant is in full swing, like a curtain, hiding the true nature of the act that will be committed.
Here's an extreme exercise you can do right now that I learned a lot from.
Go on a pornography site and watch a video (preferably a long one) and focus and observe the video, detached. Cease the lustful perception tainting your mind and just watch the video, detached as if you were merely a soulless camera just taking in or recording visual stimulus.
If you can hold that completely detached state for a long time, like I did once (haven't been able to replicate it since it's so hard to do), you'll find something miraculous.
It was like Plato's allegory of the cave, I was freed from the flawed perception, the illusion.
- Your body is telling your mind to tell the ego (sense of identity/you) to pull out the most seductive, compelling, alluring, persuasive sales pitch of all time on why you should take your right or left hand off of your phone and on your dick and fap.
- Your brain and mind is so sexualized to the point that you'll see that they'll literally attempt to take over control of your hand to get you to do the act.
- You'll see all the defects of the mind that taint your perception into believing that fapping is something that is very, very important and must be acted upon immediately. Observe, detached. Resisting assumes you're depriving yourself of something you want. Observation combined with detachment slowly removes the want by developing wisdom, this leads me to the last point.
- The most shocking, life changing thing I've discovered in the past 90 days is that I was literally able to watch porn, hold that intense mindful concentration for a while and I literally felt my dick shrink, the sexual perception waned significantly, and it was if I induced post nut clarity without ejaculation, of course without the shame since I've never ejaculated. I saw porn for what it really was, a bunch of moving pixels, nothing more nothing less. It was so profound, like I saw the end of the tunnel that nobody has been to. The land in which lust can't exist. I was so profoundly surprised at that realization. I realized that the brain can actually turn off its sexuality button. I was free, for like 3 seconds. I couldn't hold that intense focus and detachment and it all came back again.
Of course, I still have more to learn about lust but that's my input.
Even I still haven't defeated it, despite knowing all of this due to clinging to the idea that I should pursue that pleasure and not staying detached
This took me ~30 minutes to write.
@guuguugaagaa
You don't need to be horny, you just need to be motivated.
Killing sexual energy doesn't kill motivation.
yes but the motivation from being horny is on another level imo for us men
