Language isn't real and people are using you if you believe in concepts like truth/facts

[neurosis]

In order to demonstrate this, we must work backwards from the truth. Ask yourself this, what even is the truth? Is it math? Is it whatever makes bridges not collapse? Is it stuff that makes you feel good? All wrong, wrong, wrong. The answer is, we don't know, no on knows or has ever been in contact with, the truth. Truth is a completely man made fairy tale, a hoax. Now if no one has access to the truth then what are people positing whenever they declare something, the answer is: Their inherent bias/wants/needs/desires/yearnings.

So it could be said that anything, yes ANYTHING spoken via language isn't true, instead language is a means of mimetic/idea/reality manipulation serving whoever is doing the speaking. Evolution selects for fitness, not truth. Anyone who claims to be speaking 'the truth', or 'objectivity' or proclaiming what is real or isn't is in fact, a liar, whether they know it or not. When another person is speaking to you, a metaphysical transaction is being made, they want something out of this interaction and they're going to use language (lies) in order to get whatever it is they want whether that be your admiration, wealth, status etc etc - There's no such thing as talking in good faith, all words are inherently disingenuous.

"because someone said language was invented to lie. Well, perhaps that is too cynical, but certainly language obfuscates reality. It cannot help but do this"
- Terence McKenna

"Language is a virus from outer space"
- William S. Burroughs

Spoiler: For the high IQ only

If you've actually comprehended this thread you'd realise the irony in it

 

[Aviddegree40571]

In order to demonstrate this, we must work backwards from the truth. Ask yourself this, what even is the truth? Is it math? Is it whatever makes bridges not collapse? Is it stuff that makes you feel good? All wrong, wrong, wrong. The answer is, we don't know, no on knows or has ever been in contact with, the truth. Truth is a completely man made fairy tale, a hoax. Now if no one has access to the truth then what are people positing whenever they declare something, the answer is: Their inherent bias/wants/needs/desires/yearnings.

So it could be said that anything, yes ANYTHING spoken via language isn't true, instead language is a means of mimetic/idea/reality manipulation serving whoever is doing the speaking. Evolution selects for fitness, not truth. Anyone who claims to be speaking 'the truth', or 'objectivity' or proclaiming what is real or isn't is in fact, a liar, whether they know it or not. When another person is speaking to you, a metaphysical transaction is being made, they want something out of this interaction and they're going to use language (lies) in order to get whatever it is they want whether that be your admiration, wealth, status etc etc - There's no such thing as talking in good faith, all words are inherently disingenuous.

"because someone said language was invented to lie. Well, perhaps that is too cynical, but certainly language obfuscates reality. It cannot help but do this"
- Terence McKenna

"Language is a virus from outer space"
- William S. Burroughs

Spoiler: For the high IQ only

If you've actually comprehended this thread you'd realise the irony in it

Only the powerfull have the right to proclaim "truth"

 

[loyolaxavvierretard]

Yeah you have neurosis

 

[ThisCat]

Yeah you have neurosis

JFL

 

[loyolaxavvierretard]

Bery bery high IQ saar
My brain was blasted into pieces

 

[neurosis]

holy FUCK this forum is so dumb

 

[tyronechadmax]

A man who thinks all the time…

 

[superpsycho]

tldr

 

[neurosis]

Bery bery high IQ saar
My brain was blasted into pieces

thanks, much appreciated

turn on the noti bell, like the video and SMASH that sub button for more content

 

[widdi]

what even is the truth? Is it math?

yes

Is it whatever makes bridges not collapse?

yes

Is it stuff that makes you feel good?

possibly


This thread reminds me of generative anthropology tbh


From Wikipedia:

Generative anthropology - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Gans posits an "originary event" along the following lines: A group of hominids have surrounded a food object, e.g. the body of a large mammal following a hunt. The attraction of the object exceeds the limits of simple appetite due to the operation of group mimesis, essentially an expression of competition or rivalry. The object becomes more attractive simply because each member of the group finds it attractive: each individual in the group observes the attention that his rivals give the object. Actual appetite is artificially inflated through this mutual reinforcement. The power of appetitive mimesis in conjunction with the threat of violence is such that the central object begins to assume a sacred aura – infinitely desirable and infinitely dangerous.

its probably the most retarded thing that I've heard other smart people believe.

 

[enochian]

Language is deception reality is reality.
Reality just IS (truth). Language, math and science ideology religion looksmaxxing and whatever the fuck is just pointers towards it and how to manipulate that reality to our benefit. Pragmatism. We can also get lost in these constructions and lose sight of the bigger picture + get deluded.

 

[neurosis]

yes

math is an overlay/description of the truth, it isn't necessarily the truth

as this user kindly put:

Reality just IS (truth)

 

[Napoleon1800]

In order to demonstrate this, we must work backwards from the truth. Ask yourself this, what even is the truth? Is it math? Is it whatever makes bridges not collapse? Is it stuff that makes you feel good? All wrong, wrong, wrong. The answer is, we don't know, no on knows or has ever been in contact with, the truth. Truth is a completely man made fairy tale, a hoax. Now if no one has access to the truth then what are people positing whenever they declare something, the answer is: Their inherent bias/wants/needs/desires/yearnings.

So it could be said that anything, yes ANYTHING spoken via language isn't true, instead language is a means of mimetic/idea/reality manipulation serving whoever is doing the speaking. Evolution selects for fitness, not truth. Anyone who claims to be speaking 'the truth', or 'objectivity' or proclaiming what is real or isn't is in fact, a liar, whether they know it or not. When another person is speaking to you, a metaphysical transaction is being made, they want something out of this interaction and they're going to use language (lies) in order to get whatever it is they want whether that be your admiration, wealth, status etc etc - There's no such thing as talking in good faith, all words are inherently disingenuous.

"because someone said language was invented to lie. Well, perhaps that is too cynical, but certainly language obfuscates reality. It cannot help but do this"
- Terence McKenna

"Language is a virus from outer space"
- William S. Burroughs

Spoiler: For the high IQ only

If you've actually comprehended this thread you'd realise the irony in it

I’m trying to learn Spanish to fuck latinas is Spanish not real I can just speak English?

 

[laaltin]

what no pussy does to a mf. I get you but this only pushes you further away from the society

 

[neurosis]

humans btfo

language btfo

science/philosophy/pursuit of truth btfo

arguing in 'good faith' btfo

btw this species will self destruct if it doesnt invent a new form of communication that isn't service to self (language)

 

[widdi]

math is an overlay/description of the truth, it isn't necessarily the truth

as this user kindly put:

sounds like jewish wordcel semanticsfagging to me tbh.

 

[neurosis]

but this only pushes you further away from the society

society is quite literally turning to shit because most people are in denial/completely oblivious to the nature of language