Lateral Orbital Rims Should Be RECESSED

[thecel]

Lateral orbital rims should be relatively recessed with respect to the eyeball.

Forward-grown lateral orbital rims (LOR) are PSL cope. Forward LOR is a Mongoloid trait and gives the eye area a flat, boxy, "constricted", Mongoloid look. As you can see below:

Compare that to the Caucasoid eye area, in which the LOR is significantly set back from the nose bridge as well as the eyeball:

Margot Robbie has very backwards-set LORs:

Forward-set LORs flatten the eye area and look like shit:

Example of LOR too forward-set relative to where the eyeball would be:

Example of back-set LOR, leaving more of the side of the eyeball exposed from the bone:

Now here’s the discussion question: why is this attractive at all?

Isn’t leaving more of the sides of the eyes exposed bad for survival? Less bone-protected eyeballs means the eyes are easier to damage. For example, an arrow shot to the side of the head is more likely to pierce the eye. Does anyone know why we evolved to prefer this aesthetic?

 

[3links2]

Thecel

 

[Lord Shadow]

what causes the aegyo sal on the first white guy? also does no aegyo sal vs just flat undereye area indicate anything?

 

[Vincent Freeman]

are u doctor yet?

 

[thecel]

Now here’s the discussion question: why is this attractive at all?

Isn’t leaving more of the sides of the eyes exposed bad for survival? Less bone-protected eyeballs means the eyes are easier to damage. For example, an arrow shot to the side of the head is more likely to pierce the eye. Does anyone know why we evolved to prefer this aesthetic?

Thoughts?

 

[aloooeJIEEES]

Lateral orbital rims should be relatively recessed with respect to the eyeball.

Forward-grown lateral orbital rims (LOR) are PSL cope. Forward LOR is a Mongoloid trait and gives the eye area a flat, boxy, Mongoloid look. As you can see below:

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Compare that to the Caucasoid eye area, in which the LOR is significantly set back from the nose bridge as well as the eyeball:

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Margot Robbie has very backwards-set LORs:

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Forward-set LORs flatten the eye area and look like shit:

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Example of LOR too forward-set relative to where the eyeball would be:

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Example of back-set LOR, leaving more of the side of the eyeball exposed from the bone:

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Now here’s the discussion question: why is this attractive at all?

Isn’t leaving more of the sides of the eyes exposed bad for survival? Less bone-protected eyeballs means the eyes are easier to damage. For example, an arrow shot to the side of the head is more likely to pierce the eye. Does anyone know why we evolved to prefer this aesthetic?

Bump

 

[aloooeJIEEES]

Thoughts?

High iq

 

[Xangsane is SHIT]

Interesting. I am on my phone so I don't have any images, but what about forward LORs with wide orbits (in both the breadth of the socket, and their spacing)?

 

[loyolaxavvierretard]

Not all chracteristics are necessary for survival as per evolution. Some traits are remnants if they dont help/harm reproduction

That said I dont know why this is attractive but good post

 

[Xangsane is SHIT]

also another factor is the shape. I think it starts to look unaesthetic when it is flat, ie in the midpoint is as forward as the lateral supra qnd the lateral infra. That doesn't necesarily mean the LOR should be recessed, but the midpoint should fall slightly behind.
But then it kind of becomes semantics about what you mean by the LOR

 

[Xangsane is SHIT]

 

[Lord Shadow]

Thoughts?

if I had to guess I'd say it's too intimidating females aren't really too evolutionary biased for stuff like that than moreso general health indicators, thats why I think girls like soft boys more than the ogre type more often because high in health indcators higher trust and things similar to that are better to women because back then had to worry more about being kidnapped raped and killed more than having actual relationships and wondering if they're partner would make it back

 

[loyolaxavvierretard]

Such trait is most likely present because of genetic drift in these populations. Perhaps the most pointable distinction between what is attractive in West and Asia

 

[EthiopianMaxxer]

Good thread, just checked and mine are semi-recessed

 

[Xangsane is SHIT]

Lateral orbital rims should be relatively recessed with respect to the eyeball.

If I am not busy/lazy tomorrow I will make a response thread on this, actually. I am thinking about this more.

Look at de poot's angelic eyes, his lateral rims definitely protrude much more than the average person.

 

[Lookologist003]

Damn, man. You are on fire lately. Giving me so much to think about that I could not have realised on my own.

Putting this in scope of threads about eye-area would give it some substance.

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The canine skeleton has no LOR

Aesthetic face has a much of the orbital cavity in view as seen from the side profile.

While an unasethetic face has very little

I think LOR not so important. More important is the curvature of maxilla and frontal bone. Some curvature of the pair is aesthetic because then the orbital cavity is exposed and lateral canthi bends.


@thecel is it just me or is this something that can improve the facial depth model, as in what you are discribing is an unrecognised component of facial depth? Horizontal distance from tragus to lateral canthi against horizontal distance from tragus to glabella. The first human skull in my post has lower ratio than the second.

PS. Distance from tragus to glabella against facial depth describes recession of forehead.

 

[Lookologist003]

this something that can improve the facial depth model, as in what you are discribing is an unrecognised component of facial depth

Great find.

 

[LTNUser]

High iq

 

[AustrianMogger]

Lateral orbital rims should be relatively recessed with respect to the eyeball.

Forward-grown lateral orbital rims (LOR) are PSL cope. Forward LOR is a Mongoloid trait and gives the eye area a flat, boxy, "constricted", Mongoloid look. As you can see below:

View attachment 3787209View attachment 3787211View attachment 3787212

Compare that to the Caucasoid eye area, in which the LOR is significantly set back from the nose bridge as well as the eyeball:

View attachment 3787227View attachment 3787242

Margot Robbie has very backwards-set LORs:

View attachment 3787203

Forward-set LORs flatten the eye area and look like shit:

View attachment 3787202

Example of LOR too forward-set relative to where the eyeball would be:

View attachment 3787219

Example of back-set LOR, leaving more of the side of the eyeball exposed from the bone:

View attachment 3787222

Now here’s the discussion question: why is this attractive at all?

Isn’t leaving more of the sides of the eyes exposed bad for survival? Less bone-protected eyeballs means the eyes are easier to damage. For example, an arrow shot to the side of the head is more likely to pierce the eye. Does anyone know why we evolved to prefer this aesthetic?

Water, can you morph ?

 

[Pollorex]

 

[sigma boii]

Well Mine are far too recessed

 

[NoReedemingFeature]

If I am not busy/lazy tomorrow I will make a response thread on this, actually. I am thinking about this more.
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Look at de poot's angelic eyes, his lateral rims definitely protrude much more than the average person.

They're not forward set they're just big/high in mass and wide along the cheekbone

I was actually wondering the same. Whether a deeper orbital like this would be lower fighting success or not.
It's not really about how deep set the eyeball is since that's relatively to the infras, so impact might be different.
I don't know why exactly a deeper orbital seems to provide a more harmonious profile, especially with a more dolichocephalic skull. The backwards longer eyebrows and lashes look very aesthetic for some reason.


Still, the supras and rim hooding over the part of the eyeball looks very good.
Perhaps multiple factors affect this perception, I can't even find a good quality pic of a person with extremely forward set lateral orbits. Not even asians, just skulls.

 

[slaters]

Is this part of the reason why some people have shitty pfl

Does Chris Hemsworth have Chinese lateral orbital rims

 

[mandiblade]

Forward-set LORs flatten the eye area and look like trash:

As far as we can tell, you only really moved her eye wrinkles forward. Perhaps it signals neoteny?

Isn’t leaving more of the sides of the eyes exposed bad for survival? Less bone-protected eyeballs means the eyes are easier to damage. For example, an arrow shot to the side of the head is more likely to pierce the eye. Does anyone know why we evolved to prefer this aesthetic?

Another explanation is that a recessed nasal aperture gives the illusion that the LORs are forward-set. In turn, backward-set LORs give the illusion that the nasal aperture is projected, to an extent. Perhaps the Fisherian runaway selection phenomenon played a role in us desiring a combination of the two, which looks like the nasal aperture is very projected?
My last theory is similar to the last one. As stated, nasal aperture projection will cause the LORs to appear backward-set, and a combination will make it look like the nasal aperture is very projected. Instead of the runway selection phenomenon, maybe proper development > function?

 

[piec]

mogs

 

[thecel]

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mogs

 

[piec]

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mogs too