Le fort 3 reddit

[Lefor3Laser]

Basically this guy got le fort 3 and liked to share, but it's pretty odd to see this device that it is used for Monobloc on a le fort 3, correct me if i am wrong.

 

[Snicket]

Basically this guy got le fort 3 and liked to share, but it's pretty odd to see this device that it is used for Monobloc on a le fort 3, correct me if i am wrong.

I don't think it can be LF3 monobloc because there should be an additional anchorage point just above his orbits.

I could be wrong on this though.

Interesting fact: LF3 is more commonly performed with distraction osteogenesis than an osteotomy.

 

[Lefor3Laser]

I don't think it can be LF3 monobloc because there should be an additional anchorage point just above his orbits.
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I could be wrong on this though.

Interesting fact: LF3 is more commonly performed with distraction osteogenesis than an osteotomy.

Yes that's what i am saying since the device looks like a monobloc device but it isn't.

Yes it seems more logical to be done with osteogenesis rather than osteotomys since it is more precise and stable i suppose.

 

[Snicket]

Yes that's what i am saying since the device looks like a monobloc device but it isn't.

It just can't be, you're right. I think the only giveaway is that there's no additional anchorage point above the eye sockets.

Yes it seems more logical to be done with osteogenesis rather than osteotomys since it is more precise and stable i suppose.

Yes, for most LF3 patients, we're usually talking centimetres of recession, not millimeteres.
An osteotomy is a no-go for this reason, nowhere near stable enough.
This surgery was initially devised for very young, unfortunate children with craniosynostosis.

 

[Snicket]

Basically this guy got le fort 3 and liked to share, but it's pretty odd to see this device that it is used for Monobloc on a le fort 3, correct me if i am wrong.

It's amazing how ignorant the average redditor is in the comments.

They don't seem to realize that LF3 advances the entire mid-facial complex.

 

[moze]

It just can't be, you're right. I think the only giveaway is that there's no additional anchorage point above the eye sockets.

Yes, for most LF3 patients, we're usually talking centimetres of recession, not millimeteres.
An osteotomy is a no-go for this reason, nowhere near stable enough.
This surgery was initially devised for very young, unfortunate children with craniosynostosis.

You are wrong.osteotomy is more stable and predictable for lf3.the vector can change with osteogensis due to gravity

 

[Snicket]

You are wrong.osteotomy is more stable and predictable for lf3.the vector can change with osteogensis due to gravity

You have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[moze]

You have no idea what you're talking about.

Giant is the one who said that

 

[Snicket]

Giant is the one who said that

I don't know what he did or didn't say.
Distraction osteogenesis is usually considered when advancement of the maxilla is greater than 10 mm.
For centimetres of advancement the only safe way is DO.

The movements are so big that it's like limb lengthening at that point.
You can't just create a massive gap and wait for bone to grow. The gap has to be incrementally increased, giving bone and tissue a chance to develop/redevelop.

If I am wrong, provide one example.

 

[moze]

What you said makes sense

I don't know what he did or didn't say.
Distraction osteogenesis is usually considered when advancement of the maxilla is greater than 10 mm.
For centimetres of advancement the only safe way is DO.

The movements are so big that it's like limb lengthening at that point.
You can't just create a massive gap and wait for bone to grow. The gap has to be incrementally increased, giving bone and tissue a chance to develop/redevelop.

If I am wrong, provide one example.

What you said make sense.i just said what giant said as he is professional i just assumed he is right.

 

[Snicket]

What you said makes sense

What you said make sense.i just said what giant said as he is professional i just assumed he is right.

Never assume. Don’t trust either of us.
Do independent research.

I apologize for being rude before.

 

[moze]

Never assume. Don’t trust either of us.
Do independent research.

I apologize for being rude before.

Np

 

[Snicket]

Np

No. it's not fine. I think this site can often bring out the worst in us.
I will try to moderate myself more.

 

[Lefor3Laser]

It's amazing how ignorant the average redditor is in the comments.

They don't seem to realize that LF3 advances the entire mid-facial complex.

Yeah, i mean they don't even know that you can do a lot with just a normal bimax alone.

 

[Lefor3Laser]

It just can't be, you're right. I think the only giveaway is that there's no additional anchorage point above the eye sockets.

Yes, for most LF3 patients, we're usually talking centimetres of recession, not millimeteres.
An osteotomy is a no-go for this reason, nowhere near stable enough.
This surgery was initially devised for very young, unfortunate children with craniosynostosis.

Yeah you're right, since doing a massive advancment wouldn't even be possible

 

[Lefor3Laser]

What you said makes sense

What you said make sense.i just said what giant said as he is professional i just assumed he is right.

Yeah i mean, doing a research will always be better than trusting a "professional", nothing against giant, he said tha OBO increases pfl wich in reality it would leave a hollow space near the chantus, something that i always told user about it.

 

[Lefor3Laser]

No. it's not fine. I think this site can often bring out the worst in us.
I will try to moderate myself more.

I mean, yeah, sometimes it just happens, but with people who somewhat still carry a bit of respect, i would also keep the conversation respectful.

 

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