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Humans are divided in their ability to think, some possess miraculous minds while others can't even follow basic instructions.

This is a theory I have been thinking of for a while now. Please tell me what you think.


The Fuckwit

They are referred to as normies or NPCs (non playable characters), why are they thought of as such? The reason is because they totally lack the ability of free thought, a normie quite simply cannot logically adopt a belief nor can they understand it beyond a very basic level.

For example, take communism. When a normie hears this word, they think of an overbearing state that owns everything. They think this because they were brow beaten into adopting this belief. They were told what to think, and so they obeyed.

Normies do not posses the capacity to be thoughtful, their actions are decided by their instincts. This is why hedonism has spread like wildfire after the collapse of christianity, they are no longer fearful of being burnt in hell for all of eternity.

There is no god but the plebian must know in his heart that there is one.


The midwit

They are typically the smartass kid in class, always saying stuff to feel intellectually superior to his fellow men. Think the guy who regurgitates random facts to sound smart or the political man whom is always ready to have a debate.

These people are capable of logically understanding certain things if you spell it out for them. These people excel in the education system, they are very good at crunching lots of information into their skulls.

The problem is that they aren't creative. They lack the ability to look at something and figure out how it functions without instructions. The midwit needs help to understand. When faced with a problem he has never encountered before, the midwit will get stuck in analysis paralysis. This (analysis paralysis) is when you attempt to understand something by breaking it's component parts down into even smaller parts, you keep zooming for ever increasing detail, resulting in you not being able to see the bigger picture and how all the parts fit together. A midwit must be taught how to tackle a problem, they must be given a lense to view the world or else they are completely blind.


The topwit

The pinnacle of human consciousness. These are what many refer to as the genius, the savant. These individuals possess extreme logical prowess, they can look upon a problem and instantly begin finding patterns and dead ends. They are capable of looking at something in depth and overall simultaneously, they are as a result immune to analysis paralysis.

Such individuals are extremely rare and are true gifts to the human race. They produce wonderful pieces of art, huge leaps in scientific knowledge and lead armies to build empires.

Everyone wishes to be a topwit but few possess the capacity to ever be one. Many teenagers dream of living grandiose lives, as dictators, brilliant artists or revolutionary philosophers. It is the jealousy and inferiority complex that the lower minds posses, the genius is envied and worshipped. He is burnt at the stake but is also met with thunderous applause.
 
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I’m all 3
 
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I’m topwit by your definition. But in reality, there’s only one level for all of us: NPCs
 
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I’m topwit by your definition. But in reality, there’s only one level for all of us: NPCs
Everyone claims to be a genius.
 
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Everyone claims to be a genius.
Well I have a masters degree in top tier stem course with comfortable first class (equivalent to 4.0 GPA)…maybe not genius but easily gifted IQ range

Regardless, we’re all NPCs
 
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The Deluded - spends all their time on the internet and never socialises. as a result thinks everyone else is soulless robots without conscious experience and their own intellect must be something special. in reality they are below average-average

Average - your average person who has a pretty good understanding of how smart they are and what they are capable of

Intelligent - good at math
 
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And the copewit, most people
 
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Well I have a masters degree in top tier stem course with comfortable first class (equivalent to 4.0 GPA)…maybe not genius but easily gifted IQ range

Regardless, we’re all NPCs
I only consider people like boby fischer, einstein, de vinci etc to be topwits.

Doing well in uni is something plenty of midwits have done. It is they who are actually best suited for getting degrees like Pokémon.
 
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I only consider people like boby fischer, einstein, de vinci etc to be topwits.

Doing well in uni is something plenty of midwits have done. It is they who are actually best suited for getting degrees like Pokémon.
Ah okay, yeh I’m not on their level then in terms of logical intelligence

But in terms of creative intelligence I am topwit…musically, painting and writing (poetry)
 
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The Deluded - spends all their time on the internet and never socialises. as a result thinks everyone else is soulless robots without conscious experience and their own intellect must be something special. in reality they are below average-average

Average - your average person who has a pretty good understanding of how smart they are and what they are capable of

Intelligent - good at math
Restricting being intelligent to just being good at maths is pretty foolish. Exceptional smarts can take form in many ways.
 
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Restricting being intelligent to just being good at maths is pretty foolish. Exceptional smarts can take form in many ways.
There’s 9 types of intelligences tbh
 
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Restricting being intelligent to just being good at maths is pretty foolish. Exceptional smarts can take form in many ways.
cope

find me a counterexample of a genius who was bad at math
 
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There’s 9 types of intelligences tbh
They are correlated with each other, this is where the idea of G (general intelligence) comes from.

These true geniuses are good at a multitude of things. It's amazing to me, one minute they are painting a beuitful piece of art and the next they are drawing down blueprints for some advanced weapon of war.
 
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They are correlated with each other, this is where the idea of G (general intelligence) comes from.

These true geniuses are good at a multitude of things. It's amazing to me, one minute they are painting a beuitful piece of art and the next they are drawing down blueprints for some advanced weapon of war.
True

Sounds a bit like me ngl…I’m borderline genius

Chadlite genius level
 
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cope

find me a counterexample of a genius who was bad at math
Prove every genius was very good at maths. You made the claim that geniuses must be maths wiz's.
 
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True

Sounds a bit like me ngl…I’m borderline genius

Chadlite genius level
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I'm midwit with genius characteristics.
 
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Prove every genius was very good at maths. You made the claim that geniuses must be maths wiz's.
the definition of intelligence lends itself to mathematics more than any other pursuit
 
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nice contribution, retard
Just an observation honestly..imagine saying the definition of intelligence is mainly related to mathematical ability jfl

And this is coming from someone who is a mogger in mathematics btw…you’re legit dimwit srs
 
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the definition of intelligence lends itself to mathematics more than any other pursuit
More claims, but I don't see you proving great mathematical skills to be a prerequisite to genius. It is a type of genius, yes, but so is an artistic genius.

Regardless, I consider these to be lower grades of genius. Not true genius. Which I consider to be an extreme flexibility of the mind, being able to learn practically anything with little work.

Sure a true genius is good at maths but his skills at maths are the result of him being able to learn anything.

Mathmatical skill isn't an inherent trait, it's learned.
 
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Just an observation honestly..imagine saying the definition of intelligence is mainly related to mathematical ability jfl

And this is coming from someone who is a mogger in mathematics btw…you’re legit dimwit srs
ok solve the following integral:

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More claims, but I don't see you proving great mathematical skills to be a prerequisite to genius. It is a type of genius, yes, but so is an artistic genius.

Regardless, I consider these to be lower grades of genius. Not true genius. Which I consider to be an extreme flexibility of the mind, being able to learn practically anything with little work.

Sure a true genius is good at maths but his skills at maths are the result of him being able to learn anything.

Mathmatical skill isn't an inherent trait, it's learned.
why would i need to prove it when it follows from definition?

a true genius is good at everything, I agree. this includes math. math is the best measurement test here
 
I find fuckwits and midwits utterly insufferable (fuckwits in a more general sense but midwits are easier to have basic convos with but once you extend into any type of debate with them they can be extremely frustrating)
I believe I have the sentience and creativity and outside of the box thinking skills to place me above midwits but not the level of intellect to make some breakthrough in physics or whatever if that's what's necessary to be confirmed topwit
 
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why would i need to prove it when it follows from definition?

a true genius is good at everything, I agree. this includes math. math is the best measurement test here
It's not the be all end all. I could say a genius must be good at writing music. You must have everything, it's silly to prescribe special importance to one over all others.

The definition just means exceptional creativity in one field or more.
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I find fuckwits and midwits utterly insufferable (fuckwits in a more general sense but midwits are easier to have basic convos with but once you extend into any type of debate with them they can be extremely frustrating)
I believe I have the sentience and creativity and outside of the box thinking skills to place me above midwits but not the level of intellect to make some breakthrough in physics or whatever if that's what's necessary to be confirmed topwit
I'm willing to revise my theory to include more levels. It's pretty barebones right now.
 
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It's not the be all end all. I could say a genius must be good at writing music. You must have everything, it's silly to prescribe special importance to one over all others.

The definition just means exceptional creativity in one field or more.
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I'm more focusing on intelligence. genius muddies the water because it has a broader definition

but my point is that someone with the capacity for abstraction, logic and understanding will not be bad at math. and you can very easily test mathematical skills objectively, whereas something like literature or music is subjective and personal taste comes into play
 
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I'm more focusing on intelligence. genius muddies the water because it has a broader definition

but my point is that someone with the capacity for abstraction, logic and understanding will not be bad at math. and you can very easily test mathematical skills objectively, whereas something like literature or music is subjective
Then we weren't talking about the same thing. I don't disagree with you here.
 
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well, if you describe a genius if someone performs exceptionally well in a field, being a dumb autistic savant counts as "genius" as well.
 
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well, if you describe a genius if someone performs exceptionally well in a field, being a dumb autistic savant counts as "genius" as well.
In some sense yeah if we go by the official definition.
 
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in the modern world there are specialized fields , I'd say there is no room for being and "autodidactic polymath" like Leibniz and revolutionizing fields . Modern world scientists do lab tests and do as much academic writing as they can , because of competition.
Also being famous in a filed =! being bright/extremely intelligent. Take for example von Neumann who imo is even brighter than einstein(Einstein is of course a genius), but einstein revolutioned a whole field and gained popularity, where as Neumann albeit having done a massive contribution in math/computing it wasn't as impactful.

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in the modern world there are specialized fields , I'd say there is no room for being and "autodidactic polymath" like Leibniz and revolutionizing fields . Modern world scientists do lab tests and do as much academic writing as they can , because of competition.
Also being famous in a filed =! being bright/extremely intelligent. Take for example von Neumann who imo is even brighter than einstein(Einstein is of course a genius), but einstein revolutioned a whole field and gained popularity, where as Neumann albeit having done a massive contribution in math/computing it wasn't as impactful.

@8PSLcel
How do you quantify who is smarter at such an extreme end of the intelligence spectrum?
 
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I definitely used to be a midwit back in highschool, I knew all the autistic irellevant facts on things
 
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I'm more focusing on intelligence. genius muddies the water because it has a broader definition

but my point is that someone with the capacity for abstraction, logic and understanding will not be bad at math. and you can very easily test mathematical skills objectively, whereas something like literature or music is subjective and personal taste comes into play
I can become good at math when I am on stimulants tbh
But maybe that just because the stimulants unlock my retarded and impulsive ADHD brain's IQ potential
 
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Not really sure what your "theory" is. If it is that people can be divided into 3 distinct levels of intelligence, no they can't. Intelligence really is a spectrum.

To a 90 IQ person a 120 IQ person is indistinguishable from a 150 IQ person.
 
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im a fucwit
 
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over 4 sub-einsteins

should just ldar
 
Fuckwit checking in!!!! hehe
 
What would be the general corresponding IQ ranges for theses classifications?
 
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What would be the general corresponding IQ ranges for theses classifications?
Fuckwit would probably be below 100
Midwit is 100-130
Topwit would be 130+

Of course, IQ is a frail form in correlating general intelligence.
 
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What would be the general corresponding IQ ranges for theses classifications?
If we’re going by these definitions, 90% of people are midwits with the other percentages belonging to both fuckwits and topwits.
 
Fuckwit would probably be below 100
Midwit is 100-130
Topwit would be 130+

Of course, IQ is a frail form in correlating general intelligence.
I would say maybe

fuckwit < 115
midwit = 115-140
topwit > 140

I find that many people are obnoxiously unintelligent, even if they are slightly above average. Definitely the majority of the population is fuckwit.
 
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How do you quantify who is smarter at such an extreme end of the intelligence spectrum?

I would say having an aptitude to do very well on different fields like you mentioned. Also having a higher IQ makes your brain faster, but by that definition you're just faster solving things and afak it doesn't take creativity into account and outside the box thinking , for example Einstein that made provoking thought experiments leading to special relativity.

I've seen some colleague solving faster programming problems than (us) more average classmates but he doesn't display any outside the box thinking.

I'm intrested in nootropics and modafinil makes me sharper on doing things , but I can see some creativity blunting. Adderall makes people even more robotic....

If i recall correctly Einstein had some problems with proving his special realtivity and some math whizards jumped in to compete with him, and others to help him, they might have had even better IQ, but certainly not the X factor einstein had.
 
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Not really sure what your "theory" is. If it is that people can be divided into 3 distinct levels of intelligence, no they can't. Intelligence really is a spectrum.

To a 90 IQ person a 120 IQ person is indistinguishable from a 150 IQ person.
But a 120IQ person is fundamentally different from a 150IQ person, someone with 90IQ just lacks the awareness to tell them apart.

I'm sure there can be overlap but human cognition seems to follow certain forms. A genius isn't simply able to process information at a much greater quantity than a normal person, they process information differently. They don't see the world the same.
 
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What would be the general corresponding IQ ranges for theses classifications?
Fuckwit would probably be below 100
Midwit is 100-130
Topwit would be 130+

Of course, IQ is a frail form in correlating general intelligence.
I would say maybe

fuckwit < 115
midwit = 115-140
topwit > 140

I find that many people are obnoxiously unintelligent, even if they are slightly above average. Definitely the majority of the population is fuckwit.
I don't think it can be directly correlated to IQ, it most likely is associated with IQ and follows a general trend but I've encountered low IQ people that posses good levels of consciousness.

I think the different types of people do cluster at varying ranges of IQ though.

I've heard that if IQ is more than 30 points apart or two SD, communication begins to break down and it becomes harder to reason with each other. This could be the benchmark for at least estimating where someone sits.

Below 100 could be fuckwit territory, 100-130 could be midwit territory and anything higher is topwit.

I believe I may have to revise my theory, three isn't enough. We have those of incredible low intelligence who obviously aren't the same as normal people. There are also even high degrees of intelligence that can seperate itself from your usual topwit, they are usually referred to as super geniuses or high geniuses, people that only apear once in a few hundred years or so, these people completely blow everything out of the water.
 
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