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Over the years it has been increasingly clear to me that liberalism in general (not just specific forms of it) is doomed. I used to assume that other people could be trusted to make important decisions but increasingly it's clear that it simply isn't like that.
Sure if people in general were even close to as smart and responsible as i am liberalism would probably work well but we have to look at how humans in general are now instead of engaging in wishful thinking. I had to realize that i was simply projecting myself too much upon others.
Trump winning the 2024 us presidential election didn't exactly come as a surprise, it was the most likely outcome going by polls and betting odds. I did have a feeling Trump would win right before the election and that feeling turned out to be right.
But liberalism being doomed is a lot more general than specific politicians like Trump. Trump is just a symptom of deeper issues inherit to liberalism in general.
"my body, my choice"
This used to be the norm (except for people viewed as mentally ill) but it was quickly abandoned during covid-19 in most so called liberal countries in order to try to force people to get vaccinated. Then the same people who were in favor of vaccine mandates got upset when some US states made it harder to access medically unnecessary abortions (no the constitution doesn't give that 'right').
Here it is important to differentiate between the right to refuse a medical treatment (otherwise you can get subjected to medical torture, etc) and the ability to access a medical treatment you want.
Governments all across the world to regulate medical treatments in an attempt to protect people from their own stupidity mostly (with limited success).
But even if you think that adults should have absolute authority over their own body (which is rather questionable) that still leaves us with children, you can of course argue for giving more rights to people under 18 but even if people are able to do good decisions at 14 they will not have that ability at age 0 to 5.
So clearly we do need to have regulations in place and ban harmful medical precises. Parents should not for example be allowed to mutilate their own children. Children should not be reduced to property of their parents until they turn 18.
But here is a problem, people under 18 cannot vote so politicians often ignore what they want and instead focus on trying to please their parents, that's not a good system and the only good solution is to take away voting rights from most people since they are for the most part not worthy of such power.
But even in cases where people are intelligent enough to make informed decisions we often see pretty bad outcomes due to people being shortsighted, hedonistic and self-centered. We see very bad fertility rates in pretty much all liberal countries due to females being focused on other things like their career (not that men are much better).
Societal survival of the fittest
A great example of liberalism not working out too great is the Ukrainian effort to defend themselves against russian aggression, despite putins military being hilariously corrupt ukraine has struggled a lot and has as of late gradually lost more and more land. Ukraine did have enough men for an effective defense and has received a lot of weapons but still it's not going too great for them.
It's clear that liberal societies will struggle to defend themselves against authoritarian societies so a lot of democratic states will end up being destroyed by invasion rather than falling apart due to internal issues (or a combination of both).
Of course a lot of democratic societies will end becoming increasingly less democratic, that's very likely to happen in the US now and that's far from the only example.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_backsliding
So at best liberal democracy will turn into a decently functioning authoritarian system but in most cases you will end up with someone like Trump who get's elected via stupid promises such as "no tax on tips".
By realizing that liberal democracy is doomed we can shift towards looking out for our own interest and what's best for society as a whole instead of trying to uphold a failing system.
We don't want to be like joe biden who is now going to just hand over power to Trump so he can wreck the whole thing.
Failing to fulfill human needs
While many liberal democracies do fine in terms of getting decent GDP figures (mainly thanks to capitalism) they tend to utterly fail when it comes to actually meeting the real biological desires people have.
https://kffhealthnews.org/news/arti...-did-at-their-age-generational-shift-asexual/
While the idea of giving people a lot of freedom can sound fun at first it has resulted in a lot of STDs being spread, people not having sex at all. The STD problem cannot be solved without taking drastic illiberal measures (similar to how china was able to hold off sars-cov-2 for years).
People have a deep desire for things like beloning to a community, being a part of something greater.
But liberal democracy doesn't really provide that on a societal level. People might have a job but the money they earn will not allow them to actually earn a decent living.
Both males and females are doing pretty poorly under liberalism and currently we are seeing more and more males trying to basically destroy that liberal order which is why so many young men voted for Trump, they think that by voting for Trump and republicans they will effectively fight against feminism (even though the republicans tend to be even worse for men).
Females instead tends to support feminism even though they are not too happy under it for the most part, maybe they deep down they hope that they will piss off men enough to they point where men basically take over and remove those privileges.
Trans rights post liberalism
Instead of framing transitioning merely as something people have the right to do we need to argue for it based on benefits for the individuals pursuing it and benefits to society as a whole.
You can for example justify allowing MtF transitions with "we have an excess of males so this is good for the dating market". The same argument can be used to justify forced transition of course but why not? if anything that is too lenient for a lot of bad people in society (they might even enjoy it).
We need to take a more medical perspective and do better studies to see what treatments people actually benefit from.
We might for example see clearly (after doing better studies) that SRS really isn't a good idea and then it should be banned. We don't help trans people by letting them harm themselves via bad surgeries.
'liberal' democracy and rights
Often in 'liberal' democracy attempts are made to limit the scope of what the government is allowed to do but that cannot really be enforced. O
Fundamentally you need the voters themselves to respect the rights of others but as we have seen that tends to not actually happen. Instead voters tend to encroach upon each others and that ruins the confidence they have in the liberal system. Why should you respect the rights of others if you yourself is under attack by them?
Something that constitutions tend to lack is rules with regard to medical treatments without consent, instead people pretend that isn't happening even though it has going on for centuries often against people viewed as mentally ill but often other people have been targeted as well.
Historically we have seen how mobs are often turned against innocent people, mob rule isn't really something you want if you value your rights.
With less democratic systems you can at least get some stability with regard to rules. Doesn't mean you will be able to disrespect the rulers but then at least you will know what to follow to stay out of trouble.
Sars-cov-2 vs liberalism
One challenge for liberal systems is how to deal with problems that are more collective in nature.
In the case of sars-cov-2 some countries contained the spread relying on very draconian measures such as lockdowns and this causes a lot of debate in western liberal democracies since some people wanted to copy those measures in an attempt to achieve something similar there. Truth to be told attemtps to copy chinas covid zero strategy generally didn't work out too great and sweden (who refused to do lockdowns) actually did fared better than most countries who did try to implement draconian measures.
What we saw in a lot of western 'liberal' democracies was people losing freedoms while the governments still failed to actually stop the spread, the worst of both worlds.
But had covid-19 been more dangerous towards young people the covid zero strategy definitely would have been the correct one for sure, the only reason why you could make an argument for natural herd immunity was that while the virus was nasty it was not nasty to the point where the swedish herd immunity strategy was indefensible.
We saw a lot of governments implement various forms of vaccine mandates in an attempt to coerce people to get vaccinated even though though there were other effective options for protecting yourself such as FFP3 respirators aka N99 we didn't have enough of them early on but we could have made enough in months to the point were we no longer needed other measures such as lockdowns to stop the spread.
In the case of abortions in the US a lot of people are upset over the government restricting access to it.
Private media and echo chambers
Instead of looking out for what's best for society private media will focus on pushing ideology or making money.
And increasingly people get stuck inside echo-chambers where they only see views that conform to their incorrect opinions.
People watch news that tell them things that align with their ideology.
People naturally congreate in spaces where they don't have to face disagreement.
The results of all those things is an increasingly fragmented society where different groups (like cults) become increasingly hostile towards each other.
Sure if people in general were even close to as smart and responsible as i am liberalism would probably work well but we have to look at how humans in general are now instead of engaging in wishful thinking. I had to realize that i was simply projecting myself too much upon others.
Trump winning the 2024 us presidential election didn't exactly come as a surprise, it was the most likely outcome going by polls and betting odds. I did have a feeling Trump would win right before the election and that feeling turned out to be right.
But liberalism being doomed is a lot more general than specific politicians like Trump. Trump is just a symptom of deeper issues inherit to liberalism in general.
"my body, my choice"
This used to be the norm (except for people viewed as mentally ill) but it was quickly abandoned during covid-19 in most so called liberal countries in order to try to force people to get vaccinated. Then the same people who were in favor of vaccine mandates got upset when some US states made it harder to access medically unnecessary abortions (no the constitution doesn't give that 'right').
Here it is important to differentiate between the right to refuse a medical treatment (otherwise you can get subjected to medical torture, etc) and the ability to access a medical treatment you want.
Governments all across the world to regulate medical treatments in an attempt to protect people from their own stupidity mostly (with limited success).
But even if you think that adults should have absolute authority over their own body (which is rather questionable) that still leaves us with children, you can of course argue for giving more rights to people under 18 but even if people are able to do good decisions at 14 they will not have that ability at age 0 to 5.
So clearly we do need to have regulations in place and ban harmful medical precises. Parents should not for example be allowed to mutilate their own children. Children should not be reduced to property of their parents until they turn 18.
But here is a problem, people under 18 cannot vote so politicians often ignore what they want and instead focus on trying to please their parents, that's not a good system and the only good solution is to take away voting rights from most people since they are for the most part not worthy of such power.
But even in cases where people are intelligent enough to make informed decisions we often see pretty bad outcomes due to people being shortsighted, hedonistic and self-centered. We see very bad fertility rates in pretty much all liberal countries due to females being focused on other things like their career (not that men are much better).
Societal survival of the fittest
A great example of liberalism not working out too great is the Ukrainian effort to defend themselves against russian aggression, despite putins military being hilariously corrupt ukraine has struggled a lot and has as of late gradually lost more and more land. Ukraine did have enough men for an effective defense and has received a lot of weapons but still it's not going too great for them.
It's clear that liberal societies will struggle to defend themselves against authoritarian societies so a lot of democratic states will end up being destroyed by invasion rather than falling apart due to internal issues (or a combination of both).
Of course a lot of democratic societies will end becoming increasingly less democratic, that's very likely to happen in the US now and that's far from the only example.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_backsliding
So at best liberal democracy will turn into a decently functioning authoritarian system but in most cases you will end up with someone like Trump who get's elected via stupid promises such as "no tax on tips".
By realizing that liberal democracy is doomed we can shift towards looking out for our own interest and what's best for society as a whole instead of trying to uphold a failing system.
We don't want to be like joe biden who is now going to just hand over power to Trump so he can wreck the whole thing.
Failing to fulfill human needs
While many liberal democracies do fine in terms of getting decent GDP figures (mainly thanks to capitalism) they tend to utterly fail when it comes to actually meeting the real biological desires people have.
https://kffhealthnews.org/news/arti...-did-at-their-age-generational-shift-asexual/
While the idea of giving people a lot of freedom can sound fun at first it has resulted in a lot of STDs being spread, people not having sex at all. The STD problem cannot be solved without taking drastic illiberal measures (similar to how china was able to hold off sars-cov-2 for years).
People have a deep desire for things like beloning to a community, being a part of something greater.
But liberal democracy doesn't really provide that on a societal level. People might have a job but the money they earn will not allow them to actually earn a decent living.
Both males and females are doing pretty poorly under liberalism and currently we are seeing more and more males trying to basically destroy that liberal order which is why so many young men voted for Trump, they think that by voting for Trump and republicans they will effectively fight against feminism (even though the republicans tend to be even worse for men).
Females instead tends to support feminism even though they are not too happy under it for the most part, maybe they deep down they hope that they will piss off men enough to they point where men basically take over and remove those privileges.
Trans rights post liberalism
Instead of framing transitioning merely as something people have the right to do we need to argue for it based on benefits for the individuals pursuing it and benefits to society as a whole.
You can for example justify allowing MtF transitions with "we have an excess of males so this is good for the dating market". The same argument can be used to justify forced transition of course but why not? if anything that is too lenient for a lot of bad people in society (they might even enjoy it).
We need to take a more medical perspective and do better studies to see what treatments people actually benefit from.
We might for example see clearly (after doing better studies) that SRS really isn't a good idea and then it should be banned. We don't help trans people by letting them harm themselves via bad surgeries.
'liberal' democracy and rights
Often in 'liberal' democracy attempts are made to limit the scope of what the government is allowed to do but that cannot really be enforced. O
Fundamentally you need the voters themselves to respect the rights of others but as we have seen that tends to not actually happen. Instead voters tend to encroach upon each others and that ruins the confidence they have in the liberal system. Why should you respect the rights of others if you yourself is under attack by them?
Something that constitutions tend to lack is rules with regard to medical treatments without consent, instead people pretend that isn't happening even though it has going on for centuries often against people viewed as mentally ill but often other people have been targeted as well.
Historically we have seen how mobs are often turned against innocent people, mob rule isn't really something you want if you value your rights.
With less democratic systems you can at least get some stability with regard to rules. Doesn't mean you will be able to disrespect the rulers but then at least you will know what to follow to stay out of trouble.
Sars-cov-2 vs liberalism
One challenge for liberal systems is how to deal with problems that are more collective in nature.
In the case of sars-cov-2 some countries contained the spread relying on very draconian measures such as lockdowns and this causes a lot of debate in western liberal democracies since some people wanted to copy those measures in an attempt to achieve something similar there. Truth to be told attemtps to copy chinas covid zero strategy generally didn't work out too great and sweden (who refused to do lockdowns) actually did fared better than most countries who did try to implement draconian measures.
What we saw in a lot of western 'liberal' democracies was people losing freedoms while the governments still failed to actually stop the spread, the worst of both worlds.
But had covid-19 been more dangerous towards young people the covid zero strategy definitely would have been the correct one for sure, the only reason why you could make an argument for natural herd immunity was that while the virus was nasty it was not nasty to the point where the swedish herd immunity strategy was indefensible.
We saw a lot of governments implement various forms of vaccine mandates in an attempt to coerce people to get vaccinated even though though there were other effective options for protecting yourself such as FFP3 respirators aka N99 we didn't have enough of them early on but we could have made enough in months to the point were we no longer needed other measures such as lockdowns to stop the spread.
In the case of abortions in the US a lot of people are upset over the government restricting access to it.
Private media and echo chambers
Instead of looking out for what's best for society private media will focus on pushing ideology or making money.
And increasingly people get stuck inside echo-chambers where they only see views that conform to their incorrect opinions.
People watch news that tell them things that align with their ideology.
People naturally congreate in spaces where they don't have to face disagreement.
The results of all those things is an increasingly fragmented society where different groups (like cults) become increasingly hostile towards each other.
