Life Pro Tip: Go for Girls Below Your Standards if Necessary

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This post goes out to those of you who aren't too far gone in the depths of the black pill and are actually trying to improve your lives for the better. Yeah...yeah...I already know what all the virgins here are going to say.

"Wahhh I could never even look in the direction of a <5 PSL girl"
"I will not further contribute to hypergamy and make unattractive girls feel like they deserve Chad"

Shut up for a second. For those of you who aren't consistently getting laid. Or hell, maybe even aren't consistently even talking to girls, what the fuck are you doing? You're literally wasting your youthful years and eyeing some pie in the sky scenario where years from now after you've spent tens of thousands on surgeries, gymmaxxed, taken whatever supplements, and done whatever else, you'll finally go outside and make up for all that lost time as endless top tier Stacies approach you and give you all the sex, validation, and conversations you missed out on.

Some of you are even damn near chadlites and still not getting with girls because this delusional site has convinced you that either 1. only 5% of dudes are getting girls or that 2. only 90th percentile girls are worth it in the first place. Abandon this mindset. Does it know scare the hell out of you that you could wake up at 30 years old one day with virtually no sexual experience? There's nothing wrong with having a goal of getting to the point where you're only hooking up with really hot girls, but for now, who the fuck cares? You're not devaluing yourself by hooking up with a meh girl. It doesn't change who you are, especially with tinder where you can hook up with girls and then literally never talk to them again with nobody else in your life knowing.

Pros:

1. You actually get to participate in sex along with all the other guys your age, and you can talk about it with your boys.
2. Sex feels great even if it's with someone you're not crazy attracted to. Pussy is pussy and once you're in the situation where a girl has her clothes off your primal instincts are gonna take over.
3. You actually build experience so later on in life when you do get those stacies you've been lusting after for so long, she won't be able to tell you have no/little sexual experience.
4. Contrary to what you think, it'll make you feel better about yourself I promise. Sex releases dopamine and is one of the most natural and necessary things to humankind. It's not healthy for you to spend so long jerking off into a tissue and never having any kind of intimacy for it. Even after fucking a questionable looking chick, you'll go home and realize at the very worst it's something to kind of laugh about and shrug off, and it's not at all comparable to the lonely depression and crushing feeling of being so worthless that you haven't had any kind of sexual interaction in X amount of years.
5. Less attractive girls try harder during sex. This isn't a myth. They're freakier and they put in more effort than hotter girls who know they can get away with anything. You have no idea how rewarding it feels to literally facefuck a girl and then bust all over her whole body.
6. Most importantly: Constantly talking to a girl/multiple girls makes you feel better about yourself, even if they're not your ideal PSL. In general having someone to talk to is nice, but especially when it's a female who's actually interested in you. And that conversational ability you develop will make you way more prepared to deal with more attractive girls later on.

You guys have to stop treating this like an all-or-nothing scenario. Drop your fucking fragile ego, quit porn for a while, download tinder, approach girls in real life, and get whoever you can get. You have to treat it like a ladder and gradually build your way up to your goal rather than thinking the right move is to literally ascend to Chadhood before you even start your life. Take it from someone who's hooked up with hot girls (mainly in the last year after I've lifted to get a good body, become more social, and stopped giving a fuck) as well as some trashy below average girls at times when I was starting off. It's way better than spending all your time alone, talking to nobody, feeling like a loser, and jerking off to whatever degeneracy you're in the mood for.
 
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Dn read, rape stacies out of your league or rope.
 
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Most incels standards are
1. Age of consent
2. Have a pulse
 
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This post goes out to those of you who aren't too far gone in the depths of the black pill and are actually trying to improve your lives for the better. Yeah...yeah...I already know what all the virgins here are going to say.

"Wahhh I could never even look in the direction of a <5 PSL girl"
"I will not further contribute to hypergamy and make unattractive girls feel like they deserve Chad"

Shut up for a second. For those of you who aren't consistently getting laid. Or hell, maybe even aren't consistently even talking to girls, what the fuck are you doing? You're literally wasting your youthful years and eyeing some pie in the sky scenario where years from now after you've spent tens of thousands on surgeries, gymmaxxed, taken whatever supplements, and done whatever else, you'll finally go outside and make up for all that lost time as endless top tier Stacies approach you and give you all the sex, validation, and conversations you missed out on.

Some of you are even damn near chadlites and still not getting with girls because this delusional site has convinced you that either 1. only 5% of dudes are getting girls or that 2. only 90th percentile girls are worth it in the first place. Abandon this mindset. Does it know scare the hell out of you that you could wake up at 30 years old one day with virtually no sexual experience? There's nothing wrong with having a goal of getting to the point where you're only hooking up with really hot girls, but for now, who the fuck cares? You're not devaluing yourself by hooking up with a meh girl. It doesn't change who you are, especially with tinder where you can hook up with girls and then literally never talk to them again with nobody else in your life knowing.

Pros:

1. You actually get to participate in sex along with all the other guys your age, and you can talk about it with your boys.
2. Sex feels great even if it's with someone you're not crazy attracted to. Pussy is pussy and once you're in the situation where a girl has her clothes off your primal instincts are gonna take over.
3. You actually build experience so later on in life when you do get those stacies you've been lusting after for so long, she won't be able to tell you have no/little sexual experience.
4. Contrary to what you think, it'll make you feel better about yourself I promise. Sex releases dopamine and is one of the most natural and necessary things to humankind. It's not healthy for you to spend so long jerking off into a tissue and never having any kind of intimacy for it. Even after fucking a questionable looking chick, you'll go home and realize at the very worst it's something to kind of laugh about and shrug off, and it's not at all comparable to the lonely depression and crushing feeling of being so worthless that you haven't had any kind of sexual interaction in X amount of years.
5. Less attractive girls try harder during sex. This isn't a myth. They're freakier and they put in more effort than hotter girls who know they can get away with anything. You have no idea how rewarding it feels to literally facefuck a girl and then bust all over her whole body.
6. Most importantly: Constantly talking to a girl/multiple girls makes you feel better about yourself, even if they're not your ideal PSL. In general having someone to talk to is nice, but especially when it's a female who's actually interested in you. And that conversational ability you develop will make you way more prepared to deal with more attractive girls later on.

You guys have to stop treating this like an all-or-nothing scenario. Drop your fucking fragile ego, quit porn for a while, download tinder, approach girls in real life, and get whoever you can get. You have to treat it like a ladder and gradually build your way up to your goal rather than thinking the right move is to literally ascend to Chadhood before you even start your life. Take it from someone who's hooked up with hot girls (mainly in the last year after I've lifted to get a good body, become more social, and stopped giving a fuck) as well as some trashy below average girls at times when I was starting off. It's way better than spending all your time alone, talking to nobody, feeling like a loser, and jerking off to whatever degeneracy you're in the mood for.
Soyboy typing
 
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Redpills me
 
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Take it from someone who's hooked up with hot girls (mainly in the last year after I've lifted to get a good body, become more social, and stopped giving a fuck) as well as some trashy below average girls at times when I was starting off. It's way better than spending all your time alone, talking to nobody, feeling like a loser, and jerking off to whatever degeneracy you're in the mood for.
 
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Guess you guys are all just hopeless. Enjoy talking about male models the rest of the only lives you have, never doing shit, and thinking one day you’ll get surgeries and everything will magically fall into place despite being 30+ years old virgins with the conversational skills of aspie 17 year olds and years of built up depression that have permanently fucked up your brain chemistry. No one’s saying don’t looksmax and have goals, but you’re not going about it the right way at all.
 
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I did that once but I am volcel because I didn’t wanna meet up with an ugly girl tbh
 
Guess you guys are all just hopeless. Enjoy talking about male models the rest of the only lives you have, never doing shit, and thinking one day you’ll get surgeries and everything will magically fall into place despite being 30+ years old virgins with the conversational skills of aspie 17 year olds and years of built up depression that have permanently fucked up your brain chemistry. No one’s saying don’t looksmax and have goals, but you’re not going about it the right way at all.
Bruh most guys here who say they wouldn’t LTR or fuck a certain foid are just LARPing. 99.9% here would fuck a snake if it wouldn’t bite them.
 
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Bruh most guys here who say they wouldn’t LTR or fuck a certain foid are just LARPing. 99.9% here would fuck a snake if it wouldn’t bite them.
If you’re someone who’s actually so ugly that literally no girls will give you a chance, then fine, improve until you get to a point where it’s actually worth it to try. But I’ve been here long enough to know that that doesn’t apply to most posters. Very few people here put in any effort at all to have sex, especially with girls below their standards.
 
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This post goes out to those of you who aren't too far gone in the depths of the black pill and are actually trying to improve your lives for the better. Yeah...yeah...I already know what all the virgins here are going to say.

"Wahhh I could never even look in the direction of a <5 PSL girl"
"I will not further contribute to hypergamy and make unattractive girls feel like they deserve Chad"

Shut up for a second. For those of you who aren't consistently getting laid. Or hell, maybe even aren't consistently even talking to girls, what the fuck are you doing? You're literally wasting your youthful years and eyeing some pie in the sky scenario where years from now after you've spent tens of thousands on surgeries, gymmaxxed, taken whatever supplements, and done whatever else, you'll finally go outside and make up for all that lost time as endless top tier Stacies approach you and give you all the sex, validation, and conversations you missed out on.

Some of you are even damn near chadlites and still not getting with girls because this delusional site has convinced you that either 1. only 5% of dudes are getting girls or that 2. only 90th percentile girls are worth it in the first place. Abandon this mindset. Does it know scare the hell out of you that you could wake up at 30 years old one day with virtually no sexual experience? There's nothing wrong with having a goal of getting to the point where you're only hooking up with really hot girls, but for now, who the fuck cares? You're not devaluing yourself by hooking up with a meh girl. It doesn't change who you are, especially with tinder where you can hook up with girls and then literally never talk to them again with nobody else in your life knowing.

Pros:

1. You actually get to participate in sex along with all the other guys your age, and you can talk about it with your boys.
2. Sex feels great even if it's with someone you're not crazy attracted to. Pussy is pussy and once you're in the situation where a girl has her clothes off your primal instincts are gonna take over.
3. You actually build experience so later on in life when you do get those stacies you've been lusting after for so long, she won't be able to tell you have no/little sexual experience.
4. Contrary to what you think, it'll make you feel better about yourself I promise. Sex releases dopamine and is one of the most natural and necessary things to humankind. It's not healthy for you to spend so long jerking off into a tissue and never having any kind of intimacy for it. Even after fucking a questionable looking chick, you'll go home and realize at the very worst it's something to kind of laugh about and shrug off, and it's not at all comparable to the lonely depression and crushing feeling of being so worthless that you haven't had any kind of sexual interaction in X amount of years.
5. Less attractive girls try harder during sex. This isn't a myth. They're freakier and they put in more effort than hotter girls who know they can get away with anything. You have no idea how rewarding it feels to literally facefuck a girl and then bust all over her whole body.
6. Most importantly: Constantly talking to a girl/multiple girls makes you feel better about yourself, even if they're not your ideal PSL. In general having someone to talk to is nice, but especially when it's a female who's actually interested in you. And that conversational ability you develop will make you way more prepared to deal with more attractive girls later on.

You guys have to stop treating this like an all-or-nothing scenario. Drop your fucking fragile ego, quit porn for a while, download tinder, approach girls in real life, and get whoever you can get. You have to treat it like a ladder and gradually build your way up to your goal rather than thinking the right move is to literally ascend to Chadhood before you even start your life. Take it from someone who's hooked up with hot girls (mainly in the last year after I've lifted to get a good body, become more social, and stopped giving a fuck) as well as some trashy below average girls at times when I was starting off. It's way better than spending all your time alone, talking to nobody, feeling like a loser, and jerking off to whatever degeneracy you're in the mood for.
Its because of people like you that foids are crazy entitled these days.
 
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Its because of people like you that foids are crazy entitled these days.
Jesus, shut the fuck up already. You’re not changing male hormone levels, which lead to men collectively being significantly more horny than females. We’re talking fucking 200,000 years of biological evolution. Along with social media, dating apps, and the sexual revolution which have allowed people to have more sex outside of relationships and marriage. An individual deciding against having sex with a girl 0.5 PSL below him isn’t changing shit. It’s your choice what you’re going to do for yourself in these circumstances and most of you are making the wrong one because you’re so inexperienced, lacking in critical thinking, and delusional.
 
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agreed. low psl girls have
1. less sexual experiences
2. less chad exes to compete with
3. treat you better knowing that they need to keep you
4. you wont have to feel insecure around her
5. you can actually be yourself and not always be on gaurd

great post
 
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Jesus, shut the fuck up already. You’re not changing male hormone levels, which lead to men collectively being significantly more horny than females. We’re talking fucking 200,000 years of biological evolution. Along with social media, dating apps, and the sexual revolution which have allowed people to have more sex outside of relationships and marriage. An individual deciding against having sex with a girl 0.5 PSL below him isn’t changing shit. It’s your choice what you’re going to do for yourself in these circumstances and most of you are making the wrong one because you’re so inexperienced, lacking in critical thinking, and delusional.
I am 30 years old and i slay, so you are wrong phaggot.
 
This is very true, fat girls are much easier to have sex with than hot girls, that is because they are more desperate.

When I was 20, I went on a trip to Miami with my family and on the ride back we stopped at a convenience store where there was a fat cashier of the same age as me who looked so horny and desperate that I knew she wanted me to have sex with her, if I wasn't travelling with my parents, I could have definitely had sex with her easily but because they were in a hurry I didn't have time.

Also, when I went to the DMV to get my car plates last year (in October of 2019), I saw a fat girl checking me out but because of my high standards, I thought that she was below me, the truth is, I could have had sex with her.


It's okay to have high standards for a relationship since you are actually going to be spending a lot of time with that woman, but we shouldn't have high standards when we are just trying to get laid, because like you said, pussy is pussy, so the sex is just as satisfying. And, we aren't going to get infinite opportunities like that, so we better take advantage of the few that we do get, otherwise, we will never get what we want.
 
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TRP is true to a certain extent. Game doesn't work, but women are never going to approach you. They will still make the first move by telling you through their body language if they like you or not, but they will never approach you and start talking to you. So if you're not ready to make the first move, you'll miss out on so many opportunities. I am 22, and from the age of 16, I had quite a couple of opportunities and I ruined them all by being too shy to make the first move or by having super high standards, don't make the same mistakes I did.
 
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Just be a cuck fueling hypergamy theory lol

Nothing rewarding about "busting all over" a whore every other dude has "busted all over" as well.
 
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TRP is true to a certain extent. Game doesn't work, but women are never going to approach you. They will still make the first move by telling you through their body language if they like you or not, but they will never approach you and start talking to you. So if you're not ready to make the first move, you'll miss out on so many opportunities. I am 22, and from the age of 16, I had quite a couple of opportunities and I ruined them all by being too shy to make the first move or by having super high standards, don't make the same mistakes I did.
Sluts definitely will

In high school and uni there was always the handful of sluts that fucked all the good looking dudes, and they did the approaching. Over for you if you were never approached then.

Hate to say it but you never had any chances to ruin, most likely, so cope

agreed. low psl girls have
1. less sexual experiences
2. less chad exes to compete with
3. treat you better knowing that they need to keep you
4. you wont have to feel insecure around her
5. you can actually be yourself and not always be on gaurd

great post
Legit loled at ugly whores having low count. Other way around, they're the most insecure looking for most validation (which they will get) so they're the biggest whores
 
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Always go 1 psl below ur looks match

For me after I ascend I will be 7 psl
 
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Idk why u had to mention tinder. Only top 10% get anything decent from there. Monumental waste of time unless you're gonna fuck absolute whales
 
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Sluts definitely will

In high school and uni there was always the handful of sluts that fucked all the good looking dudes, and they did the approaching. Over for you if you were never approached then.

Hate to say it but you never had any chances to ruin, most likely, so cope


Legit loled at ugly whores having low count. Other way around, they're the most insecure looking for most validation (which they will get) so they're the biggest whores
I was approached once during college by a 6/10 palestinian girl but because of my high standards, I ended up rejecting her even though I could have fucked her really easily. It's far from over for me, I just need to find ways to meet women during the pandemic, because last semester, I had lots of beautiful girls who were checking me out, for me, my problem has never been my looks but my laziness that kept me from succeeding from women, and my high standards also.
 
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I was approached once during college by a 6/10 palestinian girl but because of my high standards, I ended up rejecting her even though I could have fucked her really easily. It's far from over for me, I just need to find ways to meet women during the pandemic, because last semester, I had lots of beautiful girls who were checking me out, for me, my problem has never been my looks but my laziness that kept me from succeeding from women, and my high standards also.
I'm assuming you are white? Your proof you're a Slayer is being white and having a homely ethnic show interest? Just lol dude

"Could have fucked her really easily" haha, every dude says this. Literally a meme.
 
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agreed. low psl girls have
1. less sexual experiences
2. less chad exes to compete with
3. treat you better knowing that they need to keep you
4. you wont have to feel insecure around her
5. you can actually be yourself and not always be on gaurd

great post
Low psl partners have more partners than high psl partners since they have to compromise and overcompensate sex for attraction
 
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In my experience it’s not worth the efforts UNLESS you want to increase your absolute body count with no regard to quality. It’s not like your success rate will be significantly higher when you chase women below your league as a non chad man - surely it’s easier than getting your looksmatch, but you don’t get easy lays regularly. Besides, being rejected by a foid below your league feels way worse than being rejected by your looksmatch.

If you have to do it then do it with girls younger than 25. According to my experience older foids tend to have higher standards by not only wanting looks but also demanding “maturity” and financial stability, while younger girls are easily to fool around if you’re better looking than them. But as I said, there is no guarantee for success if you don’t have a chad face. You better consider if the insignificant increase of success rate could compensate the shit feeling of being rejected by foids below your psl.
 
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Girls 1 psl below my league (im psl 4) reject me too
 
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Too bad because ugly girls don’t wanna have sex with ugly guys
 
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SHIT GUIDE, JUST RAPEMAXX
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just feed hypergamy bro
 
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just feed hypergamy bro
Most third world men have decent standards in women. Men that have low standards regardless of how good they look themselves must be more of an Anglo white thing IMO. This is one of the primary contibuting factors to hypergamy in the West,
 
This post goes out to those of you who aren't too far gone in the depths of the black pill and are actually trying to improve your lives for the better. Yeah...yeah...I already know what all the virgins here are going to say.

"Wahhh I could never even look in the direction of a <5 PSL girl"
"I will not further contribute to hypergamy and make unattractive girls feel like they deserve Chad"

Shut up for a second. For those of you who aren't consistently getting laid. Or hell, maybe even aren't consistently even talking to girls, what the fuck are you doing? You're literally wasting your youthful years and eyeing some pie in the sky scenario where years from now after you've spent tens of thousands on surgeries, gymmaxxed, taken whatever supplements, and done whatever else, you'll finally go outside and make up for all that lost time as endless top tier Stacies approach you and give you all the sex, validation, and conversations you missed out on.

Some of you are even damn near chadlites and still not getting with girls because this delusional site has convinced you that either 1. only 5% of dudes are getting girls or that 2. only 90th percentile girls are worth it in the first place. Abandon this mindset. Does it know scare the hell out of you that you could wake up at 30 years old one day with virtually no sexual experience? There's nothing wrong with having a goal of getting to the point where you're only hooking up with really hot girls, but for now, who the fuck cares? You're not devaluing yourself by hooking up with a meh girl. It doesn't change who you are, especially with tinder where you can hook up with girls and then literally never talk to them again with nobody else in your life knowing.

Pros:

1. You actually get to participate in sex along with all the other guys your age, and you can talk about it with your boys.
2. Sex feels great even if it's with someone you're not crazy attracted to. Pussy is pussy and once you're in the situation where a girl has her clothes off your primal instincts are gonna take over.
3. You actually build experience so later on in life when you do get those stacies you've been lusting after for so long, she won't be able to tell you have no/little sexual experience.
4. Contrary to what you think, it'll make you feel better about yourself I promise. Sex releases dopamine and is one of the most natural and necessary things to humankind. It's not healthy for you to spend so long jerking off into a tissue and never having any kind of intimacy for it. Even after fucking a questionable looking chick, you'll go home and realize at the very worst it's something to kind of laugh about and shrug off, and it's not at all comparable to the lonely depression and crushing feeling of being so worthless that you haven't had any kind of sexual interaction in X amount of years.
5. Less attractive girls try harder during sex. This isn't a myth. They're freakier and they put in more effort than hotter girls who know they can get away with anything. You have no idea how rewarding it feels to literally facefuck a girl and then bust all over her whole body.
6. Most importantly: Constantly talking to a girl/multiple girls makes you feel better about yourself, even if they're not your ideal PSL. In general having someone to talk to is nice, but especially when it's a female who's actually interested in you. And that conversational ability you develop will make you way more prepared to deal with more attractive girls later on.

You guys have to stop treating this like an all-or-nothing scenario. Drop your fucking fragile ego, quit porn for a while, download tinder, approach girls in real life, and get whoever you can get. You have to treat it like a ladder and gradually build your way up to your goal rather than thinking the right move is to literally ascend to Chadhood before you even start your life. Take it from someone who's hooked up with hot girls (mainly in the last year after I've lifted to get a good body, become more social, and stopped giving a fuck) as well as some trashy below average girls at times when I was starting off. It's way better than spending all your time alone, talking to nobody, feeling like a loser, and jerking off to whatever degeneracy you're in the mood for.
Sorry bro, but you're better off by going with goodlooking girls who are insecure about themselves. Just saying
 
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Sorry bro, but you're better off by going with goodlooking girls who are insecure about themselves. Just saying
His post is retarded tbh. If hypergamy is real, it's mostly fueled by horny desperate men with low standards. That's why I believe that this "hypergamy" has nothing to do with evolution.
 
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just feed hypergamy bro
Yeah I bet the members of this board (who represent 0.0000001% of the world population) practicing abstinence is really going to offset 200,000 years of human evolution and natural biological hormone differences! Maybe social media/Tinder will go away too making it more difficult for all women to have access to better looking guys!

Can you guys use logic for once in your lives? Whether or not you have sex with a girl who's below your standards, it's not changing shit when it comes to the whole picture.

Too bad because ugly girls don’t wanna have sex with ugly guys
1. Very few people here are actually ugly. Most here are average range normies with no social skills who don't put in any effort, and who think just because they can't get hot girls they can't get anyone. 2. Ugly girls are absolutely having sex with ugly guys, regardless of what conclude from your dating app experiments. My ugly friends have sex, even if it's sometimes with questionable girls. Try in real life if you have to. And like I said, settle for whoever you can get for the time being. As you make improvements to yourself from hitting the gym, getting surgeries, getting money, socializing enough to not be so awkward, and whatever else you need, the quality of girls you get will only improve alongside those.
 
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Tbh Ngl. I am a 21 y/o virgin and looking back I have had multiple chances to ascend since I was 16 (first time I remember a girl being attracted to me). But I didnt because I was too shy or not attracted enough to them. At 17 I literally went to a girls house who was clearing crushing on me, she told me she was on birth control multiple times but I didnt fuck her because I was too high inhib and wasnt crazy attracted to her (she wasnt even ugly, just a little chubby).

My mind is fucked and as OP said there are alot of users on this site who have the same issue. People will say its cope but I have seen some subhumans get laid over my life. They are not slaying like chad (irl chad not psl chad) but they have still had sex. The women they are fucking are nothing to brag to your friends about but they are still having sex.

Maybe its because im fixated on muh teenlove highschool sweetheart or death idk. The teenlove boat has sailed as soon as you turn 20. My mind is abused dog level of fucked, I just need to go deep sea diving for landwhales. While I may ruin my ability to pair bond its better then the torment of being a sexless virgin.
 
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If you're a little fat ugly fuck then it's over before it began.

So in effect. You can't OP as you suggest.
 
This post goes out to those of you who aren't too far gone in the depths of the black pill and are actually trying to improve your lives for the better. Yeah...yeah...I already know what all the virgins here are going to say.

"Wahhh I could never even look in the direction of a <5 PSL girl"
"I will not further contribute to hypergamy and make unattractive girls feel like they deserve Chad"

Shut up for a second. For those of you who aren't consistently getting laid. Or hell, maybe even aren't consistently even talking to girls, what the fuck are you doing? You're literally wasting your youthful years and eyeing some pie in the sky scenario where years from now after you've spent tens of thousands on surgeries, gymmaxxed, taken whatever supplements, and done whatever else, you'll finally go outside and make up for all that lost time as endless top tier Stacies approach you and give you all the sex, validation, and conversations you missed out on.

Some of you are even damn near chadlites and still not getting with girls because this delusional site has convinced you that either 1. only 5% of dudes are getting girls or that 2. only 90th percentile girls are worth it in the first place. Abandon this mindset. Does it know scare the hell out of you that you could wake up at 30 years old one day with virtually no sexual experience? There's nothing wrong with having a goal of getting to the point where you're only hooking up with really hot girls, but for now, who the fuck cares? You're not devaluing yourself by hooking up with a meh girl. It doesn't change who you are, especially with tinder where you can hook up with girls and then literally never talk to them again with nobody else in your life knowing.

Pros:

1. You actually get to participate in sex along with all the other guys your age, and you can talk about it with your boys.
2. Sex feels great even if it's with someone you're not crazy attracted to. Pussy is pussy and once you're in the situation where a girl has her clothes off your primal instincts are gonna take over.
3. You actually build experience so later on in life when you do get those stacies you've been lusting after for so long, she won't be able to tell you have no/little sexual experience.
4. Contrary to what you think, it'll make you feel better about yourself I promise. Sex releases dopamine and is one of the most natural and necessary things to humankind. It's not healthy for you to spend so long jerking off into a tissue and never having any kind of intimacy for it. Even after fucking a questionable looking chick, you'll go home and realize at the very worst it's something to kind of laugh about and shrug off, and it's not at all comparable to the lonely depression and crushing feeling of being so worthless that you haven't had any kind of sexual interaction in X amount of years.
5. Less attractive girls try harder during sex. This isn't a myth. They're freakier and they put in more effort than hotter girls who know they can get away with anything. You have no idea how rewarding it feels to literally facefuck a girl and then bust all over her whole body.
6. Most importantly: Constantly talking to a girl/multiple girls makes you feel better about yourself, even if they're not your ideal PSL. In general having someone to talk to is nice, but especially when it's a female who's actually interested in you. And that conversational ability you develop will make you way more prepared to deal with more attractive girls later on.

You guys have to stop treating this like an all-or-nothing scenario. Drop your fucking fragile ego, quit porn for a while, download tinder, approach girls in real life, and get whoever you can get. You have to treat it like a ladder and gradually build your way up to your goal rather than thinking the right move is to literally ascend to Chadhood before you even start your life. Take it from someone who's hooked up with hot girls (mainly in the last year after I've lifted to get a good body, become more social, and stopped giving a fuck) as well as some trashy below average girls at times when I was starting off. It's way better than spending all your time alone, talking to nobody, feeling like a loser, and jerking off to whatever degeneracy you're in the mood for.
Great..


But what if I am so subhuman that I appear invisible to ugly girls? (I'm talking landwhales or recessed jawcels)
 
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I summon @LondonVillie as a prime example
 
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Tbh Ngl. I am a 21 y/o virgin and looking back I have had multiple chances to ascend since I was 16 (first time I remember a girl being attracted to me). But I didnt because I was too shy or not attracted enough to them. At 17 I literally went to a girls house who was clearing crushing on me, she told me she was on birth control multiple times but I didnt fuck her because I was too high inhib and wasnt crazy attracted to her (she wasnt even ugly, just a little chubby).

My mind is fucked and as OP said there are alot of users on this site who have the same issue. People will say its cope but I have seen some subhumans get laid over my life. They are not slaying like chad (irl chad not psl chad) but they have still had sex. The women they are fucking are nothing to brag to your friends about but they are still having sex.

Maybe its because im fixated on muh teenlove highschool sweetheart or death idk. The teenlove boat has sailed as soon as you turn 20. My mind is abused dog level of fucked, I just need to go deep sea diving for landwhales. While I may ruin my ability to pair bond its better then the torment of being a sexless virgin.
My mind is fucked too man. Beyond over. Exact situation as you.
 
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My mind is fucked too man. Beyond over. Exact situation as you.

I agree however OPs advice doesnt apply for everyone on this site, some people here are unfortunately too ugly (NT low tier normie is the lowest form of human I have seen ascend IRL). Some subhumans here have tried very hard to get laid, and they can't or best case scenario have lucked out once or twice in their life. I remember some dude here has approached 200 girls in a month and got rejected by all of them (I think colvin76). He needs to focus soley on looksmax because he can't try any harder to get laid. For these people they should forsake women until they have done some looksmaxxing, but for other people they just havent tried hard enough. I know I haven't tried hard enough. I have my reasons but they are all cope at the end of the day.
 
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Sex is million times better with attractive foid. Change my mind.
 
I remember some dude here has approached 200 girls in a month and got rejected by all of them (I think colvin76)
Thats not me.

I only approached 105 times and they were in a spread out time frame. 25 in march, 80 in July.
 
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This is very true, fat girls are much easier to have sex with than hot girls, that is because they are more desperate.

When I was 20, I went on a trip to Miami with my family and on the ride back we stopped at a convenience store where there was a fat cashier of the same age as me who looked so horny and desperate that I knew she wanted me to have sex with her, if I wasn't travelling with my parents, I could have definitely had sex with her easily but because they were in a hurry I didn't have time.

Also, when I went to the DMV to get my car plates last year (in October of 2019), I saw a fat girl checking me out but because of my high standards, I thought that she was below me, the truth is, I could have had sex with her.


It's okay to have high standards for a relationship since you are actually going to be spending a lot of time with that woman, but we shouldn't have high standards when we are just trying to get laid, because like you said, pussy is pussy, so the sex is just as satisfying. And, we aren't going to get infinite opportunities like that, so we better take advantage of the few that we do get, otherwise, we will never get what we want.
Sex with fat girls will literally disgust you, but you can tell ppl about that funny experience and they are one of your slays so there is satisfaction regardless
 
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Sex with fat girls will literally disgust you, but you can tell ppl about that funny experience and they are one of your slays so there is satisfaction regardless
When I said fat girls I was talking mainly about girls who are a bit chubby but still look good, like they may have a belly for example or they may have huge fatty boobs and a huge fat ass depending on their proportions. I would never fuck an obese woman though, that is just too disgusting for me. The fat girl that I was talking about from my experience coming home from Miami was definitely quite fat, but she wasn't obese and it's the same with the girl at the DMV, she was more than just a bit chubby, but she wasn't obese either and she didn't have a fat face. I don't mind fucking fat girls as long as they look fuckable.
 
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Thats not me.

I only approached 105 times and they were in a spread out time frame. 25 in march, 80 in July.

My bad but 105 is still a huge number. How many slays did you get?
 

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