Lifting should be the basic compounds

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

You don’t need to do lateral raises, dumbbell incline bench, or any other machine work. The basic’s will get you jacked, simplicity is key:

Bench Press, Overhead Press, Dips, Pull Ups, Barbell Rows, Chin Ups, Squats, and Deadlifts

(p.s: raw primal diet is low key the peak human diet)

@appealmaxed @Never Get Up

 

[appealmaxed]

100%
and training 6 days a week is cope

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

100%
and training 6 days a week is cope

Giga-based High IQ take, 3 days a week is optimal and only 1-5 reps, none of that 8-12 rep aerobic ahh crap.

 

[nofap]

Why not lateral raises that grow your shoulders

 

[Angutoid]

Interesting take can i see your physique

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

Why not lateral raises that grow your shoulders

You get more lateral shoulder development from overhead pressing a lot of weight than doing side lateral raises with small ass weight, there is more actual lateral growth development during a overhead pressing movement that works all 3 heads of your delts at the same time.

 

[appealmaxed]

Giga-based High IQ take, 3 days a week is optimal and only 1-5 reps, none of that 8-12 rep aerobic ahh crap.

i do 2 sets to failure, tbh i train 5-8 since its more for hypertrophy than 1-5, 1-5 more for strength

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

Interesting take can i see your physique

I don’t need to show you my physique or anyone’s physique to prove my take on natural lifting guide.

 

[KaisenMaxxer]

I don’t need to show you my physique or anyone’s physique to prove my take on natural lifting guide.

"I don't need to show that my method works for you to think it does"

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Bench Press, Overhead Press, Dips, Pull Ups, Barbell Rows, Chin Ups, Squats, and Deadlifts

(p.s: raw primal diet is low key the peak human diet)

Cope cope cope

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

i do 2 sets to failure, tbh i train 5-8 since its more for hypertrophy than 1-5, 1-5 more for strength

Simple rule to tell if your lifting: if you can “breathe”, its not lifting… your lifting is like your sprints like how you sound when at maximal force in a sprint, if its not sounding like that, you are not lifting, you are simply moving weights for no physiological adaptation to occur,

 

[Angutoid]

I don’t need to show you my physique or anyone’s physique to prove my take on natural lifting guide.

It should be based on something right?

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

"I don't need to show that my method works for you to think it does"

if you have to show evidence or a claim with proof of the writer’s statement then that’s paradoxical.

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

It should be based on something right?

Its based off theory and logic, it does not need rudimentary base of legitimacy, otherwise that is paradoxical.

 

[appealmaxed]

do you agree with carb loading on one day per week? ik you’ve said before that you shouldn’t always be in ketois. ik people that advocate for carnivore like eddie abbew cheat once a week and eat a whole pack of chocolate biscuits for example, or vince gironda who only ate beef and eggs (look him up he looked incredible) as a bodybuilder did a carb load day, to load up for the week.

i’m not necessarily saying choc buisicis, im saying carb load day in general, regardless of source

 

[autistic_tendencies]

Giga-based High IQ take, 3 days a week is optimal and only 1-5 reps, none of that 8-12 rep aerobic ahh crap.

you ain’t building anything with 1-5 reps lol
Maybe some extra strength
You need to workout muscle enough so blood flows to the area

 

[appealmaxed]

you ain’t building anything with 1-5 reps lol
Maybe some extra strength
You need to workout muscle enough so blood flows to the area

how many days a week do you train?

 

[Prettyboy]

I’ve come to the opposite conclusion, compounds are great for building the strength base needed but isolation machine exercises are where the aestheticness comes from

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

do you agree with carb loading on one day per week? ik you’ve said before that you shouldn’t always be in ketois. ik people that advocate for carnivore like eddie abbew cheat once a week and eat a whole pack of chocolate biscuits for example, or vince gironda who only ate beef and eggs (look him up he looked incredible) as a bodybuilder did a carb load day, to load up for the week.

i’m not necessarily saying choc buisicis, im saying carb load day in general, regardless of source

Only eat carbs when out with ur family gatherings, or special occasions like outside in the cinemas, or on a holiday.

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

I’ve come to the opposite conclusion, compounds are great for building the strength base needed but isolation machine exercises are where the aestheticness comes from

I see, well i’m going to stand by my take but do you believe in the primal diet of raw meats/organs, raw eggs, raw milk, butter, bone broth, and cheese, and some seasonal fruits only berries being the ideal diet for looks ?

 

[appealmaxed]

Only eat carbs when out with ur family gatherings, or special occasions like outside in the cinemas, or on a holiday.

is it a good idea to exit ketosis once a week? you’d be out of it for probably 2-3 days

 

[autistic_tendencies]

how many days a week do you train?

3-4

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

is it a good idea to exit ketosis once a week? you’d be out of it for probably 2-3 days

In my opinion from gathering my data and research, no its ideal to be in ketosis as long as you can while only consuming carbohydrates when you have no choice and have to.

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

is it a good idea to exit ketosis once a week? you’d be out of it for probably 2-3 days

Don’t forget your longevity is also genetic’s, after researching and viewing the Siberian's who live all alone with their dogs in the wilderness/ forests of Siberia that plummets do -71 degrees, i know see that the introduction of carbohydrates into their mainly raw meat based diets of consuming only fish and hares show the significant difference in looks throughout 10 years of modern civilisation introduction of agriculture of grains/ carbohydrates.

 

[Yliaster]

Compound movements build Mass/Strength whereas things like Cables,Side Laterals and
other Isolation Movements adds details to your Muscle

 

[appealmaxed]

In my opinion from gathering my data and research, no its ideal to be in ketosis as long as you can while only consuming carbohydrates when you have no choice and have to.

what’s max carb consumption to stay in ketosis, 30g? i think it’s different for each person

 

[Prettyboy]

I see, well i’m going to stand by my take but do you believe in the primal diet of raw meats/organs, raw eggs, raw milk, butter, bone broth, and cheese, and some seasonal fruits only berries being the ideal diet for looks ?

I have been carnivore since 2019 but always found the notion to eat stuff raw weird. Nutrients have better bioavaiblity if we cook stuff, that’s what allowed humans to grow bigger brains than our ape cousins because it increases nutrient efficiency. Raw things require more resources to digest

 

[appealmaxed]

Compound movements build Mass/Strength whereas things like Cables,Side Laterals and
other Isolation Movements adds details to your Muscle

they all add mass, just isolation add in certain places instead all over like compounds, not really detail, that’s all due to body fat

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

Compound movements build Mass/Strength whereas things like Cables,Side Laterals and
other Isolation Movements adds details to your Muscle

Debatable

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

what’s max carb consumption to stay in ketosis, 30g? i think it’s different for each person

Yes eat as much as carbs as you feel necessary

 

[SwissArms]

There is no reason not to do isolations it doesn't take that long

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

I have been carnivore since 2019 but always found the notion to eat stuff raw weird. Nutrients have better bioavaiblity if we cook stuff, that’s what allowed humans to grow bigger brains than our ape cousins because it increases nutrient efficiency. Raw things require more resources to digest

I fucking knew it, the carnivore diet is based for looks bruh

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

There is no reason not to do isolations it doesn't take that long

Sure but try to limit or reduce the amount you do as more is just simply less. I’d honestly just stick to lateral raises as the only isolation i would do since all the compounds hit all ur musclew

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

I have been carnivore since 2019 but always found the notion to eat stuff raw weird. Nutrients have better bioavaiblity if we cook stuff, that’s what allowed humans to grow bigger brains than our ape cousins because it increases nutrient efficiency. Raw things require more resources to digest

What are your thoughts on gymcelling though ? Does it looksmin you or looksmax you ?

 

[SwissArms]

Sure but try to limit or reduce the amount you do as more is just simply less. I’d honestly just stick to lateral raises as the only isolation i would do since all the compounds hit all ur musclew

I do two compands two isolations usually each workout x3 a week

 

[Prettyboy]

What are your thoughts on gymcelling though ? Does it looksmin you or looksmax you ?

Very important but you must stay natural to reap the benefits, leanness is above all, muscle size reallly doesnt matter that much. It’s also necessary because it leans your face down , which is the single most important for male attractiveness

This is the type of physique carnivore brings with years of natural lifting


https://looksmax.org/threads/should-i-lean-down-a-bit-more-or-keep-it-as.1173860/

Just make sure to sleep a lot and keep your stress level (cortisol) down as much as possible outside the gym.

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

Very important but you must stay natural to reap the benefits, leanness is above all, muscle size reallly doesnt matter that much. It’s also necessary because it leans your face down , which is the single most important for male attractiveness

This is the type of physique carnivore brings with years of natural lifting


https://looksmax.org/threads/should-i-lean-down-a-bit-more-or-keep-it-as.1173860/

Just make sure to sleep a lot and keep your stress level (cortisol) down as much as possible outside the gym.

Doesn’t lifting cause cortisol, spike’s though ? And on carnivore i mainly eat customised 70/30 ground beef that is grinded with organs such as beef liver, kidney’s and heart because steak is really just muscle meat without the nutritional density of organs. Do you also consume fruits once in a while seasonally and milk ?

 

[geezcel]

throwing in accessory work isn’t going to hurt you, u utter gimp
sounds like an excuse to be lazy

 

[Prettyboy]

Doesn’t lifting cause cortisol, spike’s though ? And on carnivore i mainly eat customised 70/30 ground beef that is grinded with organs such as beef liver, kidney’s and heart because steak is really just muscle meat without the nutritional density of organs. Do you also consume fruits once in a while seasonally and milk ?

Technically everything that you do while awake increaes it (cortisol is the hormon that wakes your body up in the morning), sure weightlifting is a massive hit but after all we cannot live forever, you have to compromise between being a twink or a hunk. I subsribe to the idea that you should build up your physical foundation by the time your reach your mid 20s, then maintain it with as low stress as possible for the rest of your life

I dont eat any fruits, personally I just eat more dairy if I feel like consuming more carbs (normally I woudl drink 1l of milk and thats all my carbs for the day)

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

Technically everything that you do while awake increaes it (cortisol is the hormon that wakes your body up in the morning), sure weightlifting is a massive hit but after all we cannot live forever, you have to compromise between being a twink or a hunk. I subsribe to the idea that you should build up your physical foundation by the time your reach your mid 20s, then maintain it with as low stress as possible for the rest of your life

I dont eat any fruits, personally I just eat more dairy if I feel like consuming more carbs (normally I woudl drink 1l of milk and thats all my carbs for the day)

Is it bad that i’m eating around 1lb of grass fed ground beef and 1x salmon a day ?

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

For reference i eat 3 meals a day, 225 grams of 100% grass-fed and grass finished 70/30 ground beef (custom grinded with organs mixed in)), throughout the last 2 meals, while my first meal is usually 100 grams of wild caught salmon and 4-5 organic Pasteur raised eggs, and 2-3 small block cubes of dry aged cheese and occasionally some milk but i heard pasteurised milk is bad even though it has not been affecting my gut. (I also consume 100-200 grams of butter/day)

Do you think i can cut out fish since my omega 3-6 fatty acid ratio is already good with grass fed and grass finished ground beef ?