Live Discussion: Wars, Economony and The Future

[Lev Peshkov]

1: in the 20the century and the 19th century by this point (early 20s) there had been a war where is a war?

There has to be a major conflict every century, we are due one I am certain

What this means for us

Pretty boys : terminated

Trucels : eliminated

And generations of prosperity and discipline

 

[Deleted member 4430]

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[Zygos4Life]

I haven't slept in 15 hours

 

[Lux]

Pretty boys : terminated

Trucels : eliminated

idk man we've got to a point where wars can be fought with drones & missiles

 

[Lev Peshkov]

idk man we've got to a point where wars can be fought with drones & missiles

You can never obsolete the infantry man

The infantryman mogs everything else because he can do fairly much everything

 

[Deleted member 4804]

a war would mean this type of shit would be over

 

[Deleted member 6113]

You can never obsolete the infantry man

The infantryman mogs everything else because he can do fairly much everything

huh¿ Technology is the deciding factor between winning wars. That's why nations spend so much on their armys. They are always trying to advance so they never get overthrown and lose power.

 

[KrissKross]

You can never obsolete the infantry man

The infantryman mogs everything else because he can do fairly much everything

Infantry is cope these days. Wars are just fought by pushing buttons these days.
Nukes have basically made warfare obsolete in the modern era.

 

[Deleted member 1476]

There may well be a major war this century but it won’t be fought like WW2, just as that wasn’t fought like WW1 because of technological changes. There won’t be mass slaughter of infantrymen anymore but lots of drones, bombings and cyber warfare

 

[bossman]

yes according to the hindu texts, we are living in kali yuga, the last out of four phases in the cycle of time. it is predicted that in kali yuga, many bad things will happen, such as:

- disease will spread
- people will abandon religion and righteousness
- people will stop getting married and live together for sexual pleasure
- sin will increase exponentially
- people will get addicted to alcohol and drugs

as you can see, my brother, this is all happening. so what happens next? the hindu texts prophecise a saviour, kalki, who will destroy EVERYTHING that is bad in the world, and Kali Yuga will end, and Satya Yuga will begin. satya yuga is the greatest phase in the cycle of time, one with happiness, kindness and righteousness.

All religions have some sort of saviour, whether it be the Imam Mahdi, Kalki, Maitreya or Jesus Christ etc, someone on Earth who is worthy enough should assume the role of saviour and end Kali Yuga. No real God required.

 

[Deleted]

What this means for us

It means I’ll be a ww3 veteran

 

[Lev Peshkov]

It means I’ll be a ww3 veteran

Don't die theory

 

[Deleted member 1476]

yes according to the hindu texts, we are living in kali yuga, the last out of four phases in the cycle of time. it is predicted that in kali yuga, many bad things will happen, such as:

- disease will spread
- people will abandon religion and righteousness
- people will stop getting married and live together for sexual pleasure
- sin will increase exponentially
- people will get addicted to alcohol and drugs

as you can see, my brother, this is all happening. so what happens next? the hindu texts prophecise a saviour, kalki, who will destroy EVERYTHING that is bad in the world, and Kali Yuga will end, and Satya Yuga will begin. satya yuga is the greatest phase in the cycle of time, one with happiness, kindness and righteousness.

All religions have some sort of saviour, whether it be the Imam Mahdi, Kalki, Maitreya or Jesus Christ etc, someone on Earth who is worthy enough should assume the role of saviour and end Kali Yuga. No real God required.

sad dub, bossman

 

[Lev Peshkov]

There may well be a major war this century but it won’t be fought like WW2, just as that wasn’t fought like WW1 because of technological changes. There won’t be mass slaughter of infantrymen anymore but lots of drones, bombings and cyber warfare

I have to say I doubt it,

Think about it

A country is called to war, OK. What's gonna happen? As usual the British navy will strangle of the enemies supplies, OK and there will be an invasion.

You can invade with drones of aircraft or nukes, so the men have to get here. The enemy has to oppose you,

 

[Deleted]

Don't die theory

Rather die than End up like lieutenant Dan or Ronnie from born on the 4th of july

 

[Lev Peshkov]

huh¿ Technology is the deciding factor between winning wars. That's why nations spend so much on their armys. They are always trying to advance so they never get overthrown and lose power.

What I mean is technology will never replace and Infantryman

 

[Lev Peshkov]

Rather die than End up like lieutenant Dan or Ronnie from born on the 4th of july

Sad shit going on there bro :/

 

[Deleted]

Sad shit going on there bro :/

 

[Deleted member 6856]

ا اِلَهَ اِلَّا اللهْ مُحَمَّدُ الرَّسُولُ اللهْ ​

 

[Blackout.xl]

No wars are gonna be fought. Economies are too integrated, there’s too much to lose.

If a war did indeed happen though, I see it playing out like this

China vs America

China should be expected to produce a military force made up of a few hundred million soldiers, all equipped with modern tech. Now ppl here like to say China is shit, but they’ve dumped billions into tech and are rapidly advancing in that field. Especially military tech.

America at best will be able to call up 10 million men to fight, due to the obesity crisis and lack of will to fight anybody or anything. this obviously creates a very imbalanced ratio of soldiers.

China should be expected to launch a full scale attack on the US pacific fleet, which should knock a good portion of it out. The US will be denied access to the South China Sea and East China Sea by the Chinese navy and Chinese anti ship defence missiles. So an amphibious Landing on Chinese soil seems unlikely already.

The North Koreans are detailed as having a plan to reach Seoul after a few hours If a war starts. South Korea probably has a plan to take over NK I’d push comes go shove. SK will probably call up all men eligible for military service, which is mandatory in SK.

So SK should have an army strength cap of a few million. Combined with the extra US forces present in SK.

If the US can’t get supplies to SK due to being denied by the Chinese navy and cant transport additional men, then SK will fall within a month due to an all out blitzkrieg by the numerically superior and technologically on par Chinese military.

If the US can establish supply routes and get additional soldiers to SK, then it’ll turn into a permanent front that will be a stalemate for a while. Things will get very bloody. As a means to deny any possibly SK + American + Japanese incursion into China through the Korean Peninsula, it should be expected that the Chinese fortify the NK/SK border completely, which basically disallows any American incursion into China from Korea.

Japan likely never will be invaded, but will receive rocket fire from China consistently. The country will be used as a major hub for transporting supplies from NA to the asian front.

The yellow sea will likely become a graveyard for naval ships. For both sides, it’ll be heavily contested and the Chinese will have a lot to lose if they fail to At least keep the Americans at arms length, because the Americans taking control of the yellow sea means an amphibious Landing into China by the Americans and its allies is possible and probable.

Taiwan will likely be another site of battle. Since taking Taiwan has been a political goal for the Chinese since the rise of mao and the fall of the republic of China, they will obviously commit to this and failure to achieve will mean discrediting themselves and the power of the Chinese military.

Taiwan will obviously fight to the death, taking advantage of the terrain to keep the Chinese from landing, let alone taking territory and holding it. Taiwan may hold out for a little, maybe a year. but a lack of commitment from the Americans that’s bound to come after being locked out of the south and East China Sea and fighting a bloody battle in korea alongside pure political will by the Chinese to pull something off in Taiwan will likely result in the island being taken by the Chinese eventually. Completely reunifying China and aiding the nationalist effort among the ppl and military, which means they’ll keep working and keep dying.

India will stay neutral imo, they will likely want to try and benefit from the event, rather than drag themselves into a bloody conflict with no end. Their military and technology isn’t strong enough to really challenge China either. They have numbers, but China has numbers and advanced weapons. They’re a tier below.

In the long run I don’t see a win for the US. American society is structured in a way which endless killing and death isn’t accepted. If a military operation is going wrong and resulting in the deaths of the sons and daughters Of the country, they’ll protest and campaign against the war, which stunts America’s ability to do anything in east Asia.

Meanwhile the Chinese government has structured Chinese society to accept any law, or military operation, Or activity. The Chinese government is the only “just cause” needed to justify an action in China, the people will always follow. If such is the case, there won’t be riots in the streets or even mild protests. Especially if America instigated first. In which, you will have people, especially the large chunk of sexless Chinese males, to voluntarily sign up. They won’t even wait to get a draft letter.

And it’s not like China will be in a situation like nazi germany where it’s desperate for resources. Their oil and gas will be given to them for cheap by Putin. The steel and various resources can be found in China or bought from Putin.

Now if you get a true world war where russia gets involved and as a result the EU and nato are down to fight, then that will change everything and will take days for me to detail. So that’s for another day

 

[Lev Peshkov]

No wars are gonna be fought. Economies are too integrated, there’s too much to lose.

If a war did indeed happen though, I see it playing out like this

China vs America

China should be expected to produce a military force made up of a few hundred million soldiers, all equipped with modern tech. Now ppl here like to say China is shit, but they’ve dumped billions into tech and are rapidly advancing in that field. Especially military tech.

America at best will be able to call up 10 million men to fight, due to the obesity crisis and lack of will to fight anybody or anything. this obviously creates a very imbalanced ratio of soldiers.

China should be expected to launch a full scale attack on the US pacific fleet, which should knock a good portion of it out. The US will be denied access to the South China Sea and East China Sea by the Chinese navy and Chinese anti ship defence missiles. So an amphibious Landing on Chinese soil seems unlikely already.

The North Koreans are detailed as having a plan to reach Seoul after a few hours If a war starts. South Korea probably has a plan to take over NK I’d push comes go shove. SK will probably call up all men eligible for military service, which is mandatory in SK.

So SK should have an army strength cap of a few million. Combined with the extra US forces present in SK.

If the US can’t get supplies to SK due to being denied by the Chinese navy and cant transport additional men, then SK will fall within a month due to an all out blitzkrieg by the numerically superior and technologically on par Chinese military.

If the US can establish supply routes and get additional soldiers to SK, then it’ll turn into a permanent front that will be a stalemate for a while. Things will get very bloody. As a means to deny any possibly SK + American + Japanese incursion into China through the Korean Peninsula, it should be expected that the Chinese fortify the NK/SK border completely, which basically disallows any American incursion into China from Korea.

Japan likely never will be invaded, but will receive rocket fire from China consistently. The country will be used as a major hub for transporting supplies from NA to the asian front.

The yellow sea will likely become a graveyard for naval ships. For both sides, it’ll be heavily contested and the Chinese will have a lot to lose if they fail to At least keep the Americans at arms length, because the Americans taking control of the yellow sea means an amphibious Landing into China by the Americans and its allies is possible and probable.

Taiwan will likely be another site of battle. Since taking Taiwan has been a political goal for the Chinese since the rise of mao and the fall of the republic of China, they will obviously commit to this and failure to achieve will mean discrediting themselves and the power of the Chinese military.

Taiwan will obviously fight to the death, taking advantage of the terrain to keep the Chinese from landing, let alone taking territory and holding it. Taiwan may hold out for a little, maybe a year. but a lack of commitment from the Americans that’s bound to come after being locked out of the south and East China Sea and fighting a bloody battle in korea alongside pure political will by the Chinese to pull something off in Taiwan will likely result in the island being taken by the Chinese eventually. Completely reunifying China and aiding the nationalist effort among the ppl and military, which means they’ll keep working and keep dying.

India will stay neutral imo, they will likely want to try and benefit from the event, rather than drag themselves into a bloody conflict with no end. Their military and technology isn’t strong enough to really challenge China either. They have numbers, but China has numbers and advanced weapons. They’re a tier below.

In the long run I don’t see a win for the US. American society is structured in a way which endless killing and death isn’t accepted. If a military operation is going wrong and resulting in the deaths of the sons and daughters Of the country, they’ll protest and campaign against the war, which stunts America’s ability to do anything in east Asia.

Meanwhile the Chinese government has structured Chinese society to accept any law, or military operation, Or activity. The Chinese government is the only “just cause” needed to justify an action in China, the people will always follow. If such is the case, there won’t be riots in the streets or even mild protests. Especially if America instigated first. In which, you will have people, especially the large chunk of sexless Chinese males, to voluntarily sign up. They won’t even wait to get a draft letter.

And it’s not like China will be in a situation like nazi germany where it’s desperate for resources. Their oil and gas will be given to them for cheap by Putin. The steel and various resources can be found in China or bought from Putin.

Now if you get a true world war where russia gets involved and as a result the EU and nato are down to fight, then that will change everything and will take days for me to detail. So that’s for another day

I agree with everything you say here I belive in the Pacific it will be mainly naval battles and us amphibious landings just like ww2

But I've thought about Europe fairly easily tbh

Russia will immediately trample done EE countries / former soviet Union satellites and start production there, we'd trample through Germany easily due to their slack military I could happily say we could take the whole of Europe no military can outnumber or out perform ours. The brits and French most likely will take back their African colonies for oil etc leading to likely a similar African campaign, with rebels (terrorists) and and alliance between the former allies (FFL, SAS/SBS, Special ops basically)

Now this is where I see us struggling, with Britain's navy we will be subject to Constant artillery and air strikes on mainland Europe while our navy lacks behind tryi g to get from out naval bases to the English Channel and Atlantic


There will most likely be a naval battle fought by carriers and destroyers (we'd most likely crush the British) followed by an amphebious landing on the Channel Island followed by landing on the South Coast, however this would be the ideal plan, most likely baton forces will be placed throughout Germany and before we get to Poland we meet heavy fire, however our spec ops will likely trample them. But I see the war being mostly fought in Germany if a third world war occurred. France maybe get invaded or the strategy might be completely different to this

Like you say the yanks most likely will spend their time in the Pacific and with small mato divisions on Europe but due to not being as superior to a China- Russian alliance they'll be outnumbered and their will be masses of nato fatalities


I could only see the European war being won by Russia after taking London, England however which could take anywhere from 1 year to possibly 10 depending on the skill of nato

 

[Blackout.xl]

I agree with everything you say here I belive in the Pacific it will be mainly naval battles and us amphibious landings just like ww2

But I've thought about Europe fairly easily tbh

Russia will immediately trample done EE countries / former soviet Union satellites and start production there, we'd trample through Germany easily due to their slack military I could happily say we could take the whole of Europe no military can outnumber or out perform ours. The brits and French most likely will take back their African colonies for oil etc leading to likely a similar African campaign, with rebels (terrorists) and and alliance between the former allies (FFL, SAS/SBS, Special ops basically)

Now this is where I see us struggling, with Britain's navy we will be subject to Constant artillery and air strikes on mainland Europe while our navy lacks behind tryi g to get from out naval bases to the English Channel and Atlantic


There will most likely be a naval battle fought by carriers and destroyers (we'd most likely crush the British) followed by an amphebious landing on the Channel Island followed by landing on the South Coast, however this would be the ideal plan, most likely baton forces will be placed throughout Germany and before we get to Poland we meet heavy fire, however our spec ops will likely trample them. But I see the war being mostly fought in Germany if a third world war occurred. France maybe get invaded or the strategy might be completely different to this

Like you say the yanks most likely will spend their time in the Pacific and with small mato divisions on Europe but due to not being as superior to a China- Russian alliance they'll be outnumbered and their will be masses of nato fatalities


I could only see the European war being won by Russia after taking London, England however which could take anywhere from 1 year to possibly 10 depending on the skill of nato

I’ll address this In a thread

 

[Lev Peshkov]

I’ll address this In a thread

Based, mirin out war theorist.

Tbh, the British navy bit is a tad low iq but as it stands right now they're destroyer class, and fruagtes and submarines ar eoutdated compared to our ships

Look at the admiral essen for example compared to your flagship type 45 "hms Duncan"

You can see the Brutual mog

And I belive you're main destroyer is the type43

 

[Deleted member 6113]

What I mean is technology will never replace and Infantryman

It's inevitable.

 

[Edgar]

- disease will spread
- people will abandon religion and righteousness
- people will stop getting married and live together for sexual pleasure
- sin will increase exponentially
- people will get addicted to alcohol and drugs

Shit that literally happens all the time. Only people with shitty lives wish for an apocalypse.

 

[bossman]

Shit that literally happens all the time. Only people with shitty lives wish for an apocalypse.

No it doesn't. Aside from the first one perhaps, they have all been significantly and steadily increasing as we progress further in time.

 

[Edgar]

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No it doesn't. Aside from the first one perhaps, they have all been significantly and steadily increasing as we progress further in time.

There is more people. And there is a lot more coverage. You used to just be aware of atmost what is going on in your country. Nowadays people are reading about news from the other side of the world