lltn? ~25% bf 18 6ft

[tostlel]

Currently on reta rn to lean out but, I want advice to somehow make my eye area look better its my biggest insecurity!

 

[tostlel]

Bump

 

[Draak77]

Holy cyclops

 

[tostlel]

Holy cyclops

It happens

 

[jdksjfejwlek]

i dont think u have much of a potential, tho consider coloring your eyebrows and overal facial contrast, eyelashes also

 

[tostlel]

i dont think u have much of a potential, tho consider coloring your eyebrows and overal facial contrast, eyelashes also

would leaning out help? Like achieving sub 18 bf?

 

[jdksjfejwlek]

would leaning out help? Like achieving sub 18 bf?

it always benefitial to be leaner, lower borderline is 8%, tho it is extremly difficult and might be considered unhealthy if ur angularity will be too much

 

[tostlel]

i dont think u have much of a potential, tho consider coloring your eyebrows and overal facial contrast, eyelashes also

Also when you say low potential do you mean in general facially or the eye area?
Thx

 

[Minuskul]

You look like you have a positive cantal tilt, i cant be sure with this photo.
The main issue with your eye area is the pfl

 

[tostlel]

You look like you have a positive cantal tilt, i cant be sure with this photo.
The main issue with your eye area is the pfl

According to my friends my canthal tilt is neutral but I have sub par hooding. What does pfl mean? If you don’t mind

 

[jdksjfejwlek]

Also when you say low potential do you mean in general facially or the eye area?
Thx

i meant that if u wanna fix something it will be borderline hardmaxx\surgery,like rating-wise.

more invasive fixes will make you look better, but not massive "ascend"


btw i dont think it is wise to consider any surgery, like to achieve "most handsome face" ud need to change your most basic parts of bones that i dont think is even possible to change or so hard to do, that it will be some Frank Tufano type shit

so just consdier being healthy, and some basic softmax routine

 

[peathejew]

According to my friends my canthal tilt is neutral but I have sub par hooding. What does pfl mean? If you don’t mind

Palpebral Fissure Length, which is kinda the horizontal width of the eye opening

 

[Krypton]

mtn, profile carrying you. Your PFL is not ideal, thats why your eyes are uncanny. Your lips are thin, especially your upper lip. This kills your lowerlip-upperlip ratio and your lip to nose ratio is not ideal either

 

[Minuskul]

According to my friends my canthal tilt is neutral

You can take the mesure yourself in a miror

have sub par hooding. What does pfl mean? If you don’t mind

Pfl is the leghnt of the eye to the height. It is the think holding your eye area an making it look "round"

 

[jdksjfejwlek]

What does pfl mean?

https://looksmax.org/threads/why-pfl-is-important.993325/

 

[tostlel]

i meant that if u wanna fix something it will be borderline hardmaxx\surgery,like rating-wise.

more invasive fixes will make you look better, but not massive "ascend"


btw i dont think it is wise to consider any surgery, like to achieve "most handsome face" ud need to change your most basic parts of bones that i dont think is even possible to change or so hard to do, that it will be some Frank Tufano type shit

so just consdier being healthy, and some basic softmax routine

Yeah my goal is to jsut lean out and put on muscle to help kinda. The only hard maxx I’d consider for my eyes is fat grafting. Im jsut scared of getting Dr. tabaned

 

[tostlel]

mtn, profile carrying you. Your PFL is not ideal, thats why your eyes are uncanny. Your lips are thin, especially your upper lip. This kills your lowerlip-upperlip ratio and your lip to nose ratio is not ideal either

And potential fixes? Is it the lip ratio bc of that palate issues? Thx

 

[tostlel]

mtn, profile carrying you. Your PFL is not ideal, thats why your eyes are uncanny. Your lips are thin, especially your upper lip. This kills your lowerlip-upperlip ratio and your lip to nose ratio is not ideal either

Also yea the eye area kills me, everyone says how I look hollow it sucks.

 

[jdksjfejwlek]

Yeah my goal is to jsut lean out and put on muscle to help kinda. The only hard maxx I’d consider for my eyes is fat grafting. Im jsut scared of getting Dr. tabaned

i dont think fat grafting will do much in your case, the issue is the size of your eyes

if u wanna remove Upper eyelid exposure, thats not gonna do much, u are fine with that amount, i mostly think it can ruin your eyes, but it needs more research for your case exactly

lowkey u only option fraud your pfl and fake it till you make it idk

 

[Krypton]

I think

Also yea the eye area kills me, everyone says how I look hollow it sucks.

contact lenses will ascend you too, try blue ones

 

[tostlel]

i dont think fat grafting will do much in your case, the issue is the size of your eyes

if u wanna remove Upper eyelid exposure, thats not gonna do much, u are fine with that amount, i mostly think it can ruin your eyes, but it needs more research for your case exactly

lowkey u only option fraud your pfl and fake it till you make it idk

I’ll squint till my eyes fall out, or get tabaned

 

[mltn2mtn]

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Currently on reta rn to lean out but, I want advice to somehow make my eye area look better its my biggest insecurity!

Tbh ur face looks really lean for 25% bf

 

[tostlel]

Tbh ur face looks really lean for 25% bf

Yeah I got really luck with my fat distribution facially, but pretty much all of it is in my chest and stomach which sucks

 

[kranerman23123]

No shot you're 25%

 

[jdksjfejwlek]

can you send better pic?

like this

 

[tostlel]

No shot you're 25%

I did dexa around 3 months ago it was 25% Ive lsot 15 since so I’m assuming maybe now it’s 22-20?

 

[tostlel]

No shot you're 25%

Im also skinny fat, like badly so thats one reason

 

[kranerman23123]

I did dexa around 3 months ago it was 25% Ive lsot 15 since so I’m assuming maybe now it’s 22-20?

You can see your entire ramus there's literally zero face or neck fat, very hard to believe

 

[tostlel]

You can see your entire ramus there's literally zero face or neck fat, very hard to believe

The ramus photo is fraud lol Im just sucking in hard

 

[kranerman23123]

The ramus photo is fraud lol Im just sucking in hard

Oh u doing Hollis method huh ye that makes sense from front its not as lean