Long midface is better than compact

[Lovecraftscat]

The ideal midface for men is 0,95-1,05, but it's better to be slightly below that than above that. So many attractive and appealing actors, like Ian Somerhalder, Christian Bale, and Johnny Depp. Now in comparison, there aren't many super attractive men with wide midfaces, sure there are some models like Jordan Barrett but they are male gaze and have 0 appeal to actual women and make you look like an ogre. low midface is very dimorphic, it looks masculine in a high-class type of way and it's also striking, I think wide midface is a feminine feature since it's more forgivable on female faces than on men, wide IPD is also usually a feminine feature and women also tend to have more compact faces in general

 

[14yearoldpslmogger]

100% agree tho long midface as female is death sentence

 

[Deleted member 91529]

Christian bale looks weird, and is heavily overrated

There are also many chads with overly compact midfaces too, Archie cranch and Fernando lindez mog everyone you listed bar Somerhalder.

 

[TheBiggestIncelEver]

100% agree tho long midface as female is death sentence

nothing for a female is a death sentence. Since there will always be simps

 

[Lovecraftscat]

100% agree tho long midface as female is death sentence

There is never a death sentence in one feature alone, some women can even pull it of like Bella Hadid

 

[Orc]

only difference is that you can't elongate a face, but it's not hard to shorten it if it's caused by the philtrum.

 

[zuku]

The ideal midface for men is 0,95-1,05, but it's better to be slightly below that than above that. So many attractive and appealing actors, like Ian Somerhalder, Christian Bale, and Johnny Depp. Now in comparison, there aren't many super attractive men with wide midfaces, sure there are some models like Jordan Barrett but they are male gaze and have 0 appeal to actual women and make you look like an ogre. low midface is very dimorphic, it looks masculine in a high-class type of way and it's also striking, I think wide midface is a feminine feature since it's more forgivable on female faces than on men, wide IPD is also usually a feminine feature and women also tend to have more compact faces in general

its not about mid face
jordan barret in 2016 was glazed by everyone, now he looks like a model, thats different.
Most of models aren't "pretty" they just got modeling features like crazy alien hollow cheeks or shit.

 

[Lovecraftscat]

only difference is that you can't elongate a face, but it's not hard to shorten it if it's caused by the philtrum.

People told me mouthbreathing works, but I don't wanna fuck up my side profile, which is close to ideal rn

 

[Lovecraftscat]

its not about mid face
jordan barret in 2016 was glazed by everyone, now he looks like a model, thats different.
Most of models aren't "pretty" they just got modeling features like crazy alien hollow cheeks or shit.

Yeah, I just used JB as an example of someone with a very wide midface

 

[Orc]

People told me mouthbreathing works, but I don't wanna fuck up my side profile, which is close to ideal rn

it's cope mid-face is mega genetic.

 

[zuku]

Yeah, I just used JB as an example of someone with a very wide midface

but I get your point and I think its true but I don't think its all about tall mid face

 

[Orc]

People told me mouthbreathing works, but I don't wanna fuck up my side profile, which is close to ideal rn

it's cope mid-face is mega genetic.

 

[Lovecraftscat]

Christian bale looks weird, and is heavily overrated

There are also many chads with overly compact midfaces too, Archie cranch and Fernando lindez mog everyone you listed bar Somerhalder.

Both of these have midfaces in the ideal range, I am talking about people who have a genuinely ogre midface of above 1.05 or even above 1.1

 

[Deleted member 91529]

Both of these have midfaces in the ideal range, I am talking about people who have a genuinely ogre midface of above 1.05 or even above 1.1

Archie cranch has 1.09 and fernando lindez has 1.12

 

[Deleted member 88357]

only difference is that you can't elongate a face, but it's not hard to shorten it if it's caused by the philtrum.

how can one shorten philtrum ?

lip lift ?

 

[TheBiggestIncelEver]

only difference is that you can't elongate a face, but it's not hard to shorten it if it's caused by the philtrum.

how would someone shorten the mid face if it’s caused by long Philtrum? Lip lift?

 

[Lovecraftscat]

how would someone shorten the mid face if it’s caused by long Philtrum? Lip lift?

Lefort

 

[TheBiggestIncelEver]

how can one shorten philtrum ?

lip lift ?

I just grow a stubble for my Long philtrum it works well.

 

[manletmogger]

Both of these have midfaces in the ideal range, I am talking about people who have a genuinely ogre midface of above 1.05 or even above 1.1

Over for my 1.12 mfr

 

[Deleted member 96505]

Long midface=tall=big cock=acromegaly/gigantism=mogger

 

[Lovecraftscat]

Long midface=tall=big cock=acromegaly/gigantism=mogger

I am 6'1, my midface is super short, it's more about pheno, it has nothing to do with height

 

[haymaker283]

mid face length barely matters alone. It's all about how it harmonizes with other features and ratios, especially FWHR

 

[Lovecraftscat]

mid face length barely matters alone. It's all about how it harmonizes with other features and ratios, especially FWHR

That's such a dumb argument, mid-face is a feature and it all adds up to the bigger picture. Espacailly considering that mid-face also implies other flaws such as too wide ESR, FWHR, unbalanced facial thirds etc.

 

[ItsOverLawg]

That's such a dumb argument, mid-face is a feature and it all adds up to the bigger picture. Espacailly considering that mid-face also implies other flaws such as too wide ESR, FWHR, unbalanced facial thirds etc.

compact midface is lowkey terrific
mine is 1.1 makes me look like a fish sometimes

 

[haymaker283]

That's such a dumb argument, mid-face is a feature and it all adds up to the bigger picture. Espacailly considering that mid-face also implies other flaws such as too wide ESR, FWHR, unbalanced facial thirds etc.

yes that's why I said midface length barely matters alone.
If you have a horse face or weak FWHR as a result, it's obviously bad.
But if you have a good FWHR, proper ES ratio, etc then it looks good and isn't a flaw.

In fact, a lower mid face ratio can be beneficial to people with close set eyes (such as Ian somerhalder). Having a high midface ratio with a low ESR causes small face syndrome (like Charlie Kirk)

Meanwhile, having an unideal FWHR or chin to philtrum ratio will be a flaw on everybody.

 

[Deleted member 96505]

I am 6'1, my midface is super short, it's more about pheno, it has nothing to do with height

 

[Olivecel]

Neither are ideal. Just normal ratios mog.
O’Pry ratios.

 

[iblamemygenes]

mid face length barely matters alone. It's all about how it harmonizes with other features and ratios, especially FWHR

Obviously lol but if the midface is already really long it’s not a great chance that everything else is gonna fit its measurement like me for example my esr is perfect but my midface ratio is fucked because my maxilla’s height is massive making it .86

 

[iblamemygenes]

M

Over for my 1.12 mfr

mogs my long horse .86 midface

 

[iblamemygenes]

how can one shorten philtrum ?

lip lift ?

lefort 1 with impaction and lip lift after if needed

 

[iblamemygenes]

yes that's why I said midface length barely matters alone.
If you have a horse face or weak FWHR as a result, it's obviously bad.
But if you have a good FWHR, proper ES ratio, etc then it looks good and isn't a flaw.

In fact, a lower mid face ratio can be beneficial to people with close set eyes (such as Ian somerhalder). Having a high midface ratio with a low ESR causes small face syndrome (like Charlie Kirk)

Meanwhile, having an unideal FWHR or chin to philtrum ratio will be a flaw on everybody.

What I meant was if the Persian has good fwhr and esr then it’s not considered a long midface as the rest of the skull makes up for it, what causes it to be long is the ratios

 

[zemult]

Omega cope. 1-1.05 midface will always look better than a 0.92 Midface.

 

[swagstar]

The ideal midface for men is 0,95-1,05, but it's better to be slightly below that than above that. So many attractive and appealing actors, like Ian Somerhalder, Christian Bale, and Johnny Depp. Now in comparison, there aren't many super attractive men with wide midfaces, sure there are some models like Jordan Barrett but they are male gaze and have 0 appeal to actual women and make you look like an ogre. low midface is very dimorphic, it looks masculine in a high-class type of way and it's also striking, I think wide midface is a feminine feature since it's more forgivable on female faces than on men, wide IPD is also usually a feminine feature and women also tend to have more compact faces in general

midface ratio is a dumbass ratio thb
doesnt matter at all
u just need good eye spacing and a decent fwhr

 

[Dastan]

Compact midface: 3 arguments against its importance

Relevant mentions: 4. The point where long midface impacts healthy dentofacial structures and airways and represent a pathological cranial dystrophy pattern/adenoid face is where the facial attractiveness is destroyed obv 5. As a side note shorter midfaces are essential for niche appeal such...

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