Long ramus = short face syndrome and short mandible?

[joseph]

I've seen some examples of long ramus resulting in a lot of posterior depth in the face but the anterior part of the face is very short as a result - like a flat occlusal plane and the mandible itself is very short almost as if the ramus length is "taking away" from the mandible length

 

[Prøphet]

𝖀𝖓𝖗𝖊𝖑𝖆𝖙𝖊𝖉 𝖎𝖒𝖔, 𝕴 𝖍𝖆𝖛𝖊 𝖆 𝖘𝖍𝖔𝖗𝖙 𝖗𝖆𝖒𝖚𝖘 𝖆𝖘 𝖜𝖊𝖑𝖑 𝖆𝖘 𝖋𝖑𝖆𝖙 𝖔𝖈𝖈𝖑𝖚𝖘𝖆𝖑 𝖕𝖑𝖆𝖓𝖊 + 𝖘𝖍𝖔𝖗𝖙 𝖏𝖆𝖜 + "𝖘𝖋𝖘" 𝖆𝖓𝖉 𝖘𝖊𝖊 𝖒𝖆𝖓𝖞 𝖔𝖙𝖍𝖊𝖗𝖘 𝖜𝖍𝖔 𝖍𝖆𝖛𝖊 𝖙𝖍𝖊 𝖘𝖆𝖒𝖊

 

[high_ltn]

I've seen some examples of long ramus resulting in a lot of posterior depth in the face but the anterior part of the face is very short as a result - like a flat occlusal plane and the mandible itself is very short almost as if the ramus length is "taking away" from the mandible length

i had someone asking me about a ramus lengthening surgery, do such surgeries even exist?

 

[Prøphet]

i had someone asking me about a ramus lengthening surgery, do such surgeries even exist?

𝕵𝖆𝖜 𝖆𝖓𝖌𝖑𝖊 𝖎𝖒𝖕𝖑𝖆𝖓𝖙𝖘 𝖈𝖆𝖓 "𝖑𝖊𝖓𝖌𝖙𝖍𝖊𝖓" 𝖙𝖍𝖊 𝖗𝖆𝖒𝖚𝖘

 

[high_ltn]

𝕵𝖆𝖜 𝖆𝖓𝖌𝖑𝖊 𝖎𝖒𝖕𝖑𝖆𝖓𝖙𝖘 𝖈𝖆𝖓 "𝖑𝖊𝖓𝖌𝖙𝖍𝖊𝖓" 𝖙𝖍𝖊 𝖗𝖆𝖒𝖚𝖘

yeah but what if your gonial angle is fine? forgive me if i interpreted the idea in the wrong way

 

[Prøphet]

yeah but what if your gonial angle is fine? forgive me if i interpreted the idea in the wrong way

𝖄𝖊𝖘, 𝖑𝖊𝖓𝖌𝖙𝖍𝖊𝖓𝖎𝖓𝖌 𝖞𝖔𝖚𝖗 𝖗𝖆𝖒𝖚𝖘 𝖜𝖔𝖚𝖑𝖉 𝖒𝖆𝖐𝖊 𝖞𝖔𝖚𝖗 𝖌𝖔𝖓𝖎𝖆𝖑 𝖆𝖓𝖌𝖑𝖊 𝖒𝖔𝖗𝖊 𝖆𝖈𝖚𝖙𝖊 𝖓𝖔 𝖒𝖆𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗 𝖍𝖔𝖜 𝖞𝖔𝖚 𝖉𝖔 𝖎𝖙. 𝖄𝖔𝖚 𝖈𝖔𝖚𝖑𝖉 𝖉𝖔 𝖆 𝖇𝖎𝖒𝖆𝖝 𝖔𝖗 𝖜𝖗𝖆𝖕𝖆𝖗𝖔𝖚𝖓𝖉 𝖎𝖋 𝖎𝖙 𝖒𝖆𝖐𝖊𝖘 𝖙𝖍𝖊 𝖆𝖓𝖌𝖑𝖊 𝖙𝖔𝖔 𝖆𝖈𝖚𝖙𝖊

 

[high_ltn]

𝖄𝖊𝖘, 𝖑𝖊𝖓𝖌𝖙𝖍𝖊𝖓𝖎𝖓𝖌 𝖞𝖔𝖚𝖗 𝖗𝖆𝖒𝖚𝖘 𝖜𝖔𝖚𝖑𝖉 𝖒𝖆𝖐𝖊 𝖞𝖔𝖚𝖗 𝖌𝖔𝖓𝖎𝖆𝖑 𝖆𝖓𝖌𝖑𝖊 𝖒𝖔𝖗𝖊 𝖆𝖈𝖚𝖙𝖊 𝖓𝖔 𝖒𝖆𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗 𝖍𝖔𝖜 𝖞𝖔𝖚 𝖉𝖔 𝖎𝖙. 𝖄𝖔𝖚 𝖈𝖔𝖚𝖑𝖉 𝖉𝖔 𝖆 𝖇𝖎𝖒𝖆𝖝 𝖔𝖗 𝖜𝖗𝖆𝖕𝖆𝖗𝖔𝖚𝖓𝖉 𝖎𝖋 𝖎𝖙 𝖒𝖆𝖐𝖊𝖘 𝖙𝖍𝖊 𝖆𝖓𝖌𝖑𝖊 𝖙𝖔𝖔 𝖆𝖈𝖚𝖙𝖊

i see, by the way i have a few questions regarding surgeries, would you mind if i start a chat with you?

 

[joseph]

𝖄𝖊𝖘, 𝖑𝖊𝖓𝖌𝖙𝖍𝖊𝖓𝖎𝖓𝖌 𝖞𝖔𝖚𝖗 𝖗𝖆𝖒𝖚𝖘 𝖜𝖔𝖚𝖑𝖉 𝖒𝖆𝖐𝖊 𝖞𝖔𝖚𝖗 𝖌𝖔𝖓𝖎𝖆𝖑 𝖆𝖓𝖌𝖑𝖊 𝖒𝖔𝖗𝖊 𝖆𝖈𝖚𝖙𝖊 𝖓𝖔 𝖒𝖆𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗 𝖍𝖔𝖜 𝖞𝖔𝖚 𝖉𝖔 𝖎𝖙. 𝖄𝖔𝖚 𝖈𝖔𝖚𝖑𝖉 𝖉𝖔 𝖆 𝖇𝖎𝖒𝖆𝖝 𝖔𝖗 𝖜𝖗𝖆𝖕𝖆𝖗𝖔𝖚𝖓𝖉 𝖎𝖋 𝖎𝖙 𝖒𝖆𝖐𝖊𝖘 𝖙𝖍𝖊 𝖆𝖓𝖌𝖑𝖊 𝖙𝖔𝖔 𝖆𝖈𝖚𝖙𝖊

I have a flat occlusal plane

 

[jbwhtninthailand]

I've seen some examples of long ramus resulting in a lot of posterior depth in the face but the anterior part of the face is very short as a result - like a flat occlusal plane and the mandible itself is very short almost as if the ramus length is "taking away" from the mandible length

here’s mine

 

[maxilla-not-found]

here’s mine

you do not have sfs, the main cause of this is a deepbite causing a small chin, deep chin fold & flat cheekbones

 

[jbwhtninthailand]

you do not have sfs, the main cause of this is a deepbite causing a small chin, deep chin fold & flat cheekbones

i have deepbite..

 

[maxilla-not-found]

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[maxilla-not-found]

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[IrishSlayer1483]

𝕵𝖆𝖜 𝖆𝖓𝖌𝖑𝖊 𝖎𝖒𝖕𝖑𝖆𝖓𝖙𝖘 𝖈𝖆𝖓 "𝖑𝖊𝖓𝖌𝖙𝖍𝖊𝖓" 𝖙𝖍𝖊 𝖗𝖆𝖒𝖚𝖘

nigga thinks we in a dark fantasy mystical ahh font

 

[shuka]

this is me 100% Very good tall ramus but a little recessed chin and jaw and face also s bit short

 

[zap]

Depends on gonial angle I guess. You can have both a long ramus and a tall chin that gives you a tall skull instead of sfs

 

[iblameacne.]

you do not have sfs, the main cause of this is a deepbite causing a small chin, deep chin fold & flat cheekbones

so if i get deep bite/type 1 overbite correction would this help fix those issues? or no. i dont really have a deep chin fold and my cheekbones arent fully flat