Looking for experiences taking Cjc1295 no DAC &Ipamorelin with natural high igf1

[hoqz]

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[ormonecell]

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I can help you but tell me age and height

 

[hoqz]

I can help you but tell me age and height

Height 191,5cm age almost 16

 

[ormonecell]

Don’t take any igf1 stimulator at this age and that height you could have serius risks

 

[hoqz]

Don’t take any igf1 stimulator at this age and that height you could have serius risks

I mean when injecting cjc 1295 no dac and ipamorelin into the body still has a bit control over the hgh secretion compared to injecting hgh itself.

 

[ormonecell]

I mean when injecting cjc 1295 no dac and ipamorelin into the body still has a bit control over the hgh secretion compared to injecting hgh itself.

You really don’t need hgh or anything that stimulates it, just inject testosterone atp the risks are the same

 

[hoqz]

You really don’t need hgh or anything that stimulates it, just inject testosterone atp the risks are the same

I mean I could potentially go from around 500 ng/ml igf1 to around 650 ng/ml igf1.

 

[ormonecell]

I mean I could potentially go from around 500 ng/ml igf1 to around 650 ng/ml igf1.

Igf makes you growth plates close faster, way way faster expecally if you are already tall at a young age

 

[hoqz]

Igf makes you growth plates close faster, way way faster expecally if you are already tall at a young age

Yes, I agree. So what would be the best move in your opinion? I havent researched much about aromatase inhibitors yet.

 

[ormonecell]

Yes, I agree. So what would be the best move in your opinion? I havent researched much about aromatase inhibitors yet.

I think the best one is letrozole 2,5mg/die for a year or so could make you even taller(5cm or so)

 

[hoqz]

I think the best one is letrozole 2,5mg/die for a year or so could make you even taller(5cm or so)

But I have heard letrozole has a big rebound effect. But I got my estrogen levels tested today and I am waiting for the results.

 

[ormonecell]

But I have heard letrozole has a big rebound effect. But I got my estrogen levels tested today and I am waiting for the results.

the problem with letrozole is that it can cause ostheoporosis and give you ginecomastia, if your estrogen levels are high then you could take it without so much of the risks, but i would suggest that you look into actual steroids for short peroid of time

 

[hoqz]

the problem with letrozole is that it can cause ostheoporosis and give you ginecomastia, if your estrogen levels are high then you could take it without so much of the risks, but i would suggest that you look into actual steroids for short peroid of time

But why would the steroids be beneficial?

 

[ormonecell]

But why would the steroids be beneficial?

Becouse at this point either you wait until you are 18 and then start with “peptides” or just start with testosterone and a great pct wich has benefits to your overall physique wich is a major thing that can make ur smv go up, most of the steroids if taken properly and with medical advice have an insane impact with your overall look, and you won’t risk your growth plates closing or long time side effects

 

[ormonecell]

But why would the steroids be beneficial?

Obviously you would have to spend a lot more if you go with testosterone you sould also get an aromatase inibitor to not get ginecomastia and as i said at this age you HAVE to get a medical opinion on the subject i can give you a general introduction but you medic sould know better

 

[hoqz]

Obviously you would have to spend a lot more if you go with testosterone you sould also get an aromatase inibitor to not get ginecomastia and as i said at this age you HAVE to get a medical opinion on the subject i can give you a general introduction but you medic sould know better

Yes, obviously looksmax.org isnt my main source of medical advice.

 

[ormonecell]

Yes, obviously looksmax.org isnt my main source of medical advice.

 

[Bacuatii]

Height 191,5cm age almost 16

Brother... youre taller than everyone and at that age... just get some muscle on you and you will live the fucking life

 

[hoqz]

Brother... youre taller than everyone and at that age... just get some muscle on you and you will the fucking life

Yes, I know that I'm taller than almost everyone my age that I see on the streets. But I always read that alot of other people in the rating section are my height. I wonder if they are all staying at home...

 

[hoqz]

Brother... youre taller than everyone and at that age... just get some muscle on you and you will the fucking life

But I want to focus on muscle later in life and want to reap the benefits of puberty in terms of bone growth

 

[ormonecell]

Yes, I know that I'm taller than almost everyone my age that I see on the streets. But I always read that alot of other people in the rating section are my height. I wonder if they are all staying at home...

They are larping most of the time, avarage height is 178-180 in most of the countries(considering our age group so 16-21)

 

[hoqz]

They are larping most of the time, avarage height is 178-180 in most of the countries(considering our age group so 16-21)

Yeah, probably the case. But its dumb to lie about it when you have nothing to gain and maybe get a better rating which doesnt reflect your real smv.

 

[Bacuatii]

But I want to focus on muscle later in life and want to reap the benefits of puberty in terms of bone growth

maybe thats an actual valid concern


There isnt a clear empirical on whether hgh or roids increases bonemass or no in this forum, but since I'm interested and have nothing to do, I'll run a test cycle and hopefully get hgh after two weeks and then ill x-ray my skull again when the cycle is done and I'll see if anything changes

 

[Bacuatii]

They are larping most of the time, avarage height is 178-180 in most of the countries(considering our age group so 16-21)

I wish I was 178 man

 

[ormonecell]

Yeah, probably the case. But its dumb to lie about it when you have nothing to gain and maybe get a better rating which doesnt reflect your real smv.

People in this forum love to larp about anything

 

[ormonecell]

I wish I was 178 man

How tall are you

 

[KT-34]

Speak American

 

[Bacuatii]

How tall are you

I'm 173 cm, my test is coming today with fin and ill get hcg and anastrazole next week, but I'm still afraid that I still havent done growing linearly and that I would close my plates (I'm not 100% faithful on the estrogen blocking thing) maybe ill get my parents to buy me hgh and do it before the cycle, I turned 17 last week

 

[ormonecell]

Speak American

5’8-6’0

 

[ormonecell]

I'm 173 cm, my test is coming today with fin and ill get hcg and anastrazole next week, but I'm still afraid that I still havent done growing linearly and that I would close my plates (I'm not 100% faithful on the estrogen blocking thing) maybe ill get my parents to buy me hgh and do it before the cycle, I turned 17 last week

i was 165 till 16 then i became 183 in two years randomly

 

[Bacuatii]

Yeah, probably the case. But its dumb to lie about it when you have nothing to gain and maybe get a better rating which doesnt reflect your real smv.

Everyone and their mother lies in this forum about their height, it's unfortunate to see since they can be completely anon and it's for self improvement

 

[Bacuatii]

i was 165 till 16 then i became 183 in two years randomly

Lifefuel, so I shouldnt take test this summer? kinda bad since I already payed and ready to get some muscles n shiet

 

[ormonecell]

I litteraly just started going to the gym and ate better, most of the time its just your habits that prevent natural growth, if your medic tells you that you will not grow past 175 or smthing just take armoatase inibitors and take the risks to slay

 

[hoqz]

I litteraly just started going to the gym and ate better, most of the time its just your habits that prevent natural growth, if your medic tells you that you will not grow past 175 or smthing just take armoatase inibitors and take the risks to slay

Most of the time its genetics

 

[ormonecell]

Most of the time its genetics

Yea that’s pretty obvius but habits 100% affect your growth

 

[hoqz]

Yea that’s pretty obvius but habits 100% affect your growth

I mean to a certain degree yes

 

[ormonecell]

I mean to a certain degree yes

Your genetics can be altered by how you eat or if you smoke, another exemple not eating calcium can significantly decrease you skeletal growth or thats what my anatomy proffesor told me

 

[hoqz]

Igf makes you growth plates close faster, way way faster expecally if you are already tall at a young age

So do you think injecting some sort of GH secretagogues would backfire in terms of lowering my height potential?

 

[Bacuatii]

I mean to a certain degree yes

Habits do matter very much so, maybe not as much as the genetics since it's the baseline and the limiter but habits, through epigenetic mechanisms, which can significantly influence gene expression over time

 

[Bacuatii]

So do you think injecting some sort of GH secretagogues would backfire in terms of lowering my height potential?

Not necessarily. If dosed carefully and used with intelligence, GH secretagogues can or will support optimal growth by enhancing natural GH pulsatility (and with an ai ofcourse)

 

[ormonecell]

So do you think injecting some sort of GH secretagogues would backfire in terms of lowering my height potential?

100%, the only way that it would not is if you have some sort of condition for example messi

 

[hoqz]

Not necessarily. If dosed carefully and used with intelligence, GH secretagogues can or will support optimal growth by enhancing natural GH pulsatility (and with a ai ofcourse)

Yeah that was my thought but it could also make the bone more vulnerable (so to speak) to the effects of estrogen from what I've heard

 

[hoqz]

100%, the only way that it would not is if you have some sort of condition for example messi

Do you mean in terms of organomegaly or growth plate closure?

 

[ormonecell]

Do you mean in terms of organomegaly or growth plate closure?

Organomegaly is less of risk if we talk about igf1, growth plate closure is the main risk, igf alongside estrogen is the main ormone that closes your growth plates, and at this age it could damage your natural ormonal production in your pituitary gland

 

[hoqz]

Organomegaly is less of risk if we talk about igf1, growth plate closure is the main risk, igf alongside estrogen is the main ormone that closes your growth plates, and at this age it could damage your natural ormonal production in your pituitary gland

But could the natural pituitary production be damaged even if your not injecting hgh directly?

 

[ormonecell]

But could the natural pituitary production be damaged even if your not injecting hgh directly?

Yes, igf1 is responsable for your natural gh secretion so if you take it while your natural secretion is still developing you 100% could damage it

 

[hoqz]

Yes, igf1 is responsable for your natural gh secretion so if you take it while your natural secretion is still developing you 100% could damage it

Im not taking igf1 I was thinking about cjc1295 no dac and ipamorelin

 

[ormonecell]

Im not taking igf1 I was thinking about cjc1295 no dac and ipamorelin

cjc and ipa stimulate igf thats the main thing

 

[hoqz]

cjc and ipa stimulate igf thats the main thing

But I was talking about pituitary hgh production not igf1 production

 

[ormonecell]

But I was talking about pituitary hgh production not igf1 production

Yea cjc+ipa indirectly stimulate hgh production