Sasukecel
18yo sub5 nonNT 5'7 blackcel
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People relate looks and dating so heavily, that whenever an ugly person wants to improve their looks, they're plastered with dating advice.
"Ugly men still get girls." "You're just making excuses." "Don't get plastic surgery." "You can still get an ugly girl, don't bother yourself with looksmaxxing."
First off, it's been proven that ugly men often get cheated on or settled for in the relationship.
And secondly, I don't even want to look better for women. There's many cons to being a sub5 vs just a normie. No one respects you, harder to make friends, the halo effect, harder to get a job, ostricized from society, there's many cons of being ugly that go just beyond lack of dating opportunities.
I don't want to be a sub5 for a variety of reasons, not just dating. With my genetic base, I won't ascend. I'm 5'6 and a 1.5 - 2.5/10 facially. If I get multiple plastic surgeries and get to 4 - 5/10 facially, I would consider that heavily worth it. I would pay 100,000 dollars to be a 4/10, high LTN or low MTN, I would pay thousands to get to just that, because if you're just average, or slightly below average, you're not seen as a subhuman and it's not ropefuel to look in the mirror.
The purpose of cosmetic plastic surgery, is to improve your appearance. Think of it as any medical service. How does it work? In the emergency room, the person with an amputated arm and gunshot wounds is attended to before the person with the common cold. "But it might not work." He's probably not savable, the gun shot wounds would kill him because he's severely injured. They'd try anyways to attend to his wounds.
If you're average to above average facially, getting plastic surgery is like going to the Emergency Room for the common cold, it would ascend you even further, but you're still seen as a human in society. It's someone done that's wanted, and not needed.
Whereas cosmetic surgery is best for the physically deformed or those who are extremely unattractive, because that was likely supposed to be the original purpose.
If you have extremely unappealing facial deformities, plastic surgery is done for that. If you have an extremely ugly face, plastic surgery is for that. It's not even done in vain at that point.
So trying to gatekeep plastic surgery to normies and up just how they try to gatekeep everything for normal to attractive people because "you're too ugly for plastic surgery" doesn't make sense. Plastic surgery is for the "too ugly." Normal looking people don't need plastic surgery, ugly people or people with facial deformities need plastic surgery.
It's likely over in the west, I might geomax, but I'm still deadset on hardmaxxing beforehand, because there's too much downsides/disadvantages to being an ugly person. If there's an opportunity to go from subhuman to LTN, it would be dumb in my opinion to not take that opportunity, even if it will take years of time and money, because looks play a part in your entire human experience. There is a social hierarchy based on looks. If I can climb even 1 step higher in the hierarchy, it's worth it.
"Ugly men still get girls." "You're just making excuses." "Don't get plastic surgery." "You can still get an ugly girl, don't bother yourself with looksmaxxing."
First off, it's been proven that ugly men often get cheated on or settled for in the relationship.
And secondly, I don't even want to look better for women. There's many cons to being a sub5 vs just a normie. No one respects you, harder to make friends, the halo effect, harder to get a job, ostricized from society, there's many cons of being ugly that go just beyond lack of dating opportunities.
I don't want to be a sub5 for a variety of reasons, not just dating. With my genetic base, I won't ascend. I'm 5'6 and a 1.5 - 2.5/10 facially. If I get multiple plastic surgeries and get to 4 - 5/10 facially, I would consider that heavily worth it. I would pay 100,000 dollars to be a 4/10, high LTN or low MTN, I would pay thousands to get to just that, because if you're just average, or slightly below average, you're not seen as a subhuman and it's not ropefuel to look in the mirror.
The purpose of cosmetic plastic surgery, is to improve your appearance. Think of it as any medical service. How does it work? In the emergency room, the person with an amputated arm and gunshot wounds is attended to before the person with the common cold. "But it might not work." He's probably not savable, the gun shot wounds would kill him because he's severely injured. They'd try anyways to attend to his wounds.
If you're average to above average facially, getting plastic surgery is like going to the Emergency Room for the common cold, it would ascend you even further, but you're still seen as a human in society. It's someone done that's wanted, and not needed.
Whereas cosmetic surgery is best for the physically deformed or those who are extremely unattractive, because that was likely supposed to be the original purpose.
If you have extremely unappealing facial deformities, plastic surgery is done for that. If you have an extremely ugly face, plastic surgery is for that. It's not even done in vain at that point.
So trying to gatekeep plastic surgery to normies and up just how they try to gatekeep everything for normal to attractive people because "you're too ugly for plastic surgery" doesn't make sense. Plastic surgery is for the "too ugly." Normal looking people don't need plastic surgery, ugly people or people with facial deformities need plastic surgery.
It's likely over in the west, I might geomax, but I'm still deadset on hardmaxxing beforehand, because there's too much downsides/disadvantages to being an ugly person. If there's an opportunity to go from subhuman to LTN, it would be dumb in my opinion to not take that opportunity, even if it will take years of time and money, because looks play a part in your entire human experience. There is a social hierarchy based on looks. If I can climb even 1 step higher in the hierarchy, it's worth it.
