Lorazepam (ativan) vs pregabalin (lyrica)

[Bewusst]

What are they like? How fast do you build a tolerance? Which one's better in your opinion and why?

@Cope @Seth Walsh @Htobrother @Nad

 

[YabadiDabado]

Both are psychiatric trash, stay away from psychiatric drugs.

 

[Deleted member 5815]

never tried pregabalin but on ativan any anxiety will melt away its physically impossible to have a panic attack you feel very happy and positive its like alcohol but less euphoric

tolerance/withdrawal effects really set in 10 days in so you should be using it sparingly like once a week maybe 2 any more than that is pushing it and you will get a higher baseline anxiety, for your receptors its the equivalent of drinking

 

[Bewusst]

never tried pregabalin but on ativan any anxiety will melt away its physically impossible to have a panic attack you feel very happy and positive its like alcohol but less euphoric

tolerance/withdrawal effects really set in 10 days in so you should be using it sparingly like once a week maybe 2 any more than that is pushing it and you will get a higher baseline anxiety, for your receptors its the equivalent of drinking

How does it compare to, say, a fifth of vodka? I don't have anxiety, but I'm drinking daily and it's getting out of hand

 

[Bewusst]

Both are psychiatric trash, stay away from psychiatric drugs.

So what's a better alternative in your opinion?

 

[Bewusst]

Bump

 

[Deleted member 5815]

How does it compare to, say, a fifth of vodka? I don't have anxiety, but I'm drinking daily and it's getting out of hand

there is a cross tolerance/gaba withdrawal between alcohol and benzos so you might need more to feel okay, it will delay any alc wd you might be experiencing

it's hard to compare with vodka its not euphoric like alcohol but it makes your brain go quiet even more you feel at peace, but you can blackout when I took 4mg in the beginning of my use and blacked out stole a bunch of stuff at walmart lol

 

[Deleted member 5815]

So what's a better alternative in your opinion?

there really isnt I tried the raw meat the magnesium and l-theanine megadosing NAC sunlight no blue light fixing your circadian rythm grounding meditation buteyko controlled breathing 3 months semen retention it helps a little but some people are just damaged beyond repair

 

[High Cortisol Chad]

Use lorazepam or preferably even some benzo with a shorter half-life like alprazolam, only for very rare events like if you're anxious and have to give a public speech. Tolerance develops from the very first pill just very little so you might not notice withdrawal, but believe me all the anxiety relief you're getting, you'll have to pay it back later in increased baseline anxiety, that's why you should only use it very sparingly when you really need it.

If you just want to do something for fun because you're bored then do something like DXM or LSD or shrooms or even ketamine

 

[Bewusst]

it makes your brain go quiet even more you feel at peace

That's exactly what I'm looking for

 

[Bewusst]

there really isnt I tried the raw meat the magnesium and l-theanine megadosing NAC sunlight no blue light fixing your circadian rythm grounding meditation buteyko controlled breathing 3 months semen retention it helps a little but some people are just damaged beyond repair

That's all cope

 

[Deleted member 23558]

Both of them are completely useless and weak.

 

[Deleted member 21863]

Both of them are completely useless and weak.

How is ativan weak jfl

 

[Bewusst]

Both of them are completely useless and weak.

Compared to what? Elab

 

[Deleted member 4301]

You need Jesus son

 

[Deleted member 23558]

Compared to what? Elab

Compared to something like kratom or baclofen. Ativan barely does anything you feel less sentient that’s all. And pregablin just dumbs you down.

 

[Deleted member 23558]

How is ativan weak jfl

I’ve taken upto 5 mg just makes me sleep and wake up groggy have fun with that

 

[Deleted member 4301]

Compared to something like kratom or baclofen. Ativan barely does anything you feel less sentient that’s all. And pregablin just dumbs you down.

Ativan is way stronger than kratom jfll. People pay $20 a pop for 2.5mg of Ativan on the street

 

[Deleted member 21863]

I’ve taken upto 5 mg just makes me sleep and wake up groggy have fun with that

you're something else man
menawhile I get effects from 0.25 mg Clonazepam

 

[Deleted member 23558]

you're something else man
menawhile I get effects from 0.25 mg Clonazepam

Another shit drug.

 

[Bewusst]

Compared to something like kratom or baclofen. Ativan barely does anything you feel less sentient that’s all. And pregablin just dumbs you down.

Kratom is garbage ime. All it did was give me a terrible headache that lasted for days and no pleasurable effects at all, regardless of strain. Even codeine is better

 

[Deleted member 21863]

Another shit drug.

what works for you then

 

[Deleted member 23558]

Ativan is way stronger than kratom jfll. People pay $20 a pop for 2.5mg of Ativan on the street

And I actually get pharma grade Ativan for one dollar and have tried both of them idc what your receptor fried schizo friends do

 

[Deleted member 23558]

Kratom is garbage ime. All it did was give me a terrible headache that lasted for days and no pleasurable effects at all, regardless of strain. Even codeine is better

Shit kratom brand then.

 

[Deleted member 23558]

what works for you then

For what purpose?

 

[rl⠀]

Both are psychiatric trash, stay away from psychiatric drugs.

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OP, here's the comparison: 0 vs 0

 

[rl⠀]

So what's a better alternative in your opinion?

low doses of klonopin

 

[Bewusst]

And I actually get pharma grade Ativan for one dollar and have tried both of them idc what your receptor fried schizo friends do

Would you mind selling it to me then if it's no use to you? Given that shipping isn't an issue

 

[Deleted member 4301]

And I actually get pharma grade Ativan for one dollar and have tried both of them idc what your receptor fried schizo friends do

I'm not on that side of the trade buddy boyo. Ativan is really strong and really addictive

 

[Bewusst]

Shit kratom brand then.

Tried several types as I said. I don't respond well to opiates/opioids in general tho, always get terrible after-effects. Headaches, irritability, ringing in the ears, ants crawling under my skin etc. It's just not my cup of tea, which is a good thing, I guess

 

[Deleted member 20179]

Never had a benzo script, but have tried a couple Xanax before and washed them down with a few shots. I don’t remember shit afterward, but this was back in HS. I must not have been anxious at the time, because I remember waiting 30min, then an hour thinking, this ain’t shit

 

[Deleted member 20179]

Kratom is garbage ime. All it did was give me a terrible headache that lasted for days and no pleasurable effects at all, regardless of strain. Even codeine is better

Some people respond poorly to kratom. I got high my first time, so bad it gave me a panic attack 5hrs later

 

[Bewusst]

Never had a benzo script, but have tried a couple Xanax before and washed them down with a few shots. I don’t remember shit afterward, but this was back in HS. I must not have been anxious at the time, because I remember waiting 30min, then an hour thinking, this ain’t shit

Short-term memory loss is a common side effect of benzodiazepines from what I've heard

 

[Deleted member 20179]

Short-term memory loss is a common side effect of benzodiazepines from what I've heard

Yeah ofc washing it down with vodka amplifies it ten fold

 

[Bewusst]

So, which drug (benzo or gabapentinoid) has the least muscle relaxing and strongest psychoactive effects in your experience?

 

[Bewusst]

bump

 

[Deleted member 23558]

So, which drug (benzo or gabapentinoid) has the least muscle relaxing and strongest psychoactive effects in your experience?

Probably phenibut

 

[Bewusst]

Probably phenibut

Doubt it, as a direct calcium channel blocker

 

[Deleted member 23558]

Doubt it, as a direct calcium channel blocker

Why don’t you want the muscle relaxant effects

 

[Bewusst]

Why don’t you want the muscle relaxant effects

Because I got botulinum toxin poisoning in 2020 with some residual effects/sensitivity

 

[Deleted member 20399]

Both are psychiatric trash, stay away from psychiatric drugs.

easy to say when u dont have crippling social anxiety