M15 How to change Ortho's plan to fix my maxilla?

[NeedUndereyeSupport]

I'm 15, I'm not satisfied at all with my orthodontist's treatment. I currently have a crossbite and an overjet, or as he called it an 'overbite.' He is using class 2 elastics on me, and I deadass feel like hes recessing my maxilla more, so I simply stopped using the bands. See photos of my side profile:

Trying to come up with some sort of reasoning or bullshit I can tell the ortho to fix my very flat side profile. I have the same facial structure as my father, and he has sleep apnea. I snore at night too, and never is quite well rested, im planning to get a sleep test for sleep apnea soon, I have a large tongue, same as my father. My palate might be narrow aswell because when I push my tounge to the top , part of my tongue goes over my teeth, though it could not be because I just have a large tongue, ill include a photo of that aswell(the palate):

, seriously considering surgery if need be. Any ideas of what to tell my ortho without him shutting me down immediately?



TLDR: Have crossbite, overjet, overbite, possibly sleep apnea, what to tell ortho to improve maxilla

 

[sln]

Surgery dawg

 

[NeedUndereyeSupport]

Surgery dawg

marpe or mse wouldnt help? no idea if that fucker would approve surgery or my insurance

 

[NeedUndereyeSupport]

I'm 15, I'm not satisfied at all with my orthodontist's treatment. I currently have a crossbite and an overjet, or as he called it an 'overbite.' He is using class 2 elastics on me, and I deadass feel like hes recessing my maxilla more, so I simply stopped using the bands. See photos of my side profile:

Trying to come up with some sort of reasoning or bullshit I can tell the ortho to fix my very flat side profile. I have the same facial structure as my father, and he has sleep apnea. I snore at night too, and never is quite well rested, im planning to get a sleep test for sleep apnea soon, I have a large tongue, same as my father. My palate might be narrow aswell because when I push my tounge to the top , part of my tongue goes over my teeth, though it could not be because I just have a large tongue, ill include a photo of that aswell(the palate):

, seriously considering surgery if need be. Any ideas of what to tell my ortho without him shutting me down immediately?



TLDR: Have crossbite, overjet, overbite, possibly sleep apnea, what to tell ortho to improve maxilla

bump bruh someone please give me advice

 

[JoKhao]

I'm 15, I'm not satisfied at all with my orthodontist's treatment. I currently have a crossbite and an overjet, or as he called it an 'overbite.' He is using class 2 elastics on me, and I deadass feel like hes recessing my maxilla more, so I simply stopped using the bands. See photos of my side profile:

Trying to come up with some sort of reasoning or bullshit I can tell the ortho to fix my very flat side profile. I have the same facial structure as my father, and he has sleep apnea. I snore at night too, and never is quite well rested, im planning to get a sleep test for sleep apnea soon, I have a large tongue, same as my father. My palate might be narrow aswell because when I push my tounge to the top , part of my tongue goes over my teeth, though it could not be because I just have a large tongue, ill include a photo of that aswell(the palate):

, seriously considering surgery if need be. Any ideas of what to tell my ortho without him shutting me down immediately?



TLDR: Have crossbite, overjet, overbite, possibly sleep apnea, what to tell ortho to improve maxilla

You guys might call me e retard but your side profile is bad in terms of org but good in terms of other and from what i can see it fits your face like is not the best but is the best of the worse

 

[MediterraneanMoid]

I mean as I can see, what you describe is a classic sign of a high-arched or narrow palate, i dont feel like it's just a longe tongue tbh. Also there is a good point due to the fact that your father has sleep apnea, a large tongue, and a similar facial pattern and that you share those traits + snoring is clinically very significant and not something your orthodontist shouldn't take care of. If you don't want to ruin your face and actually fix it I wouldput pressure on the orthodontist you have, if he doesn't change his mind try another. Keep in mind that you are still young so if you keep having this problem once you are 18 ---> hardmaxx.