Male vs Female Gaze

[EverythingMattersCel]

Saw a girl on .com posting that how she wants a body type like this:

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Whereas most of us would find this attractive:

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Ideal male body from a male perspective (what we know as the male gaze):
- Huge traps and delts
- Overly muscled
- Massive tree-trunk legs
- Double-barrel chest
- Height matters less

Actual ideal male body from a female perspective (what we know as the female gaze):
- There is no true "ideal male body". A good-looking FACE is the thing that matters the most by far.
- Low bodyfat <12%
- Visible abs
- Broad clavicles
- Slim waist
- Elite swimmer body proportions
- Well-developed glutes
- 6'3+
- Vascular forearms

Ideal female body from a female perspective:
- Slim to near borderline anorexic
- Lack of curves but strong hip-waist ratio
- Thigh gap
- Long legs and short torso
- Runway figure
- Small - perky curves

Actual ideal female body from a male perspective:
- A good body for foids is 80%+ of their sexual appeal
- Huge milkers
- Fat ass
- Strong hip-waist ratio
- Higher body fat (no protruding gut or cellulite though)
- Big thighs


Women who lack awareness and social intelligence will make the same mistake as subhuman gym-cel bulkers. A well-done BBL is the greatest lookmax a foid could do. Starve-maxxing to achieve a "runway" look is appeasing other women, not what men want (which is the intrinsic goal of every foid, whether they like to admit it or not).

There is a clear contradistinction between what men and women perceive as attractive. Women think a low dimorphism look is ideal for themselves, whereas men perceive high dimorphism of the body as optimal for both men and women.

 

[axttt_]

tldr looks like a decent thread tho ill rep

 

[Xangsane]

Ideal male body from a male perspective (what we know as the male gaze):
- Huge traps and delts
- Overly muscled
- Massive tree-trunk legs
- Double-barrel chest
- Height matters less

Actual ideal male body from a female perspective (what we know as the female gaze):
- There is no true "ideal male body". A good-looking FACE is the thing that matters the most by far.
- Low bodyfat <12%
- Visible abs
- Broad clavicles
- Slim waist
- Elite swimmer body proportions
- Well-developed glutes
- 6'3+
- Vascular forearms

Ideal female body from a female perspective:
- Slim to near borderline anorexic
- Lack of curves but strong hip-waist ratio
- Thigh gap
- Long legs and short torso
- Runway figure
- Small - perky curves

Actual ideal female body from a male perspective:
- A good body for foids is 80%+ of their sexual appeal
- Huge milkers
- Fat ass
- Strong hip-waist ratio
- Higher body fat (no protruding gut or cellulite though)
- Big thighs


Women who lack awareness and social intelligence will make the same mistake as subhuman gym-cel bulkers. A well-done BBL is the greatest lookmax a foid could do. Starve-maxxing to achieve a "runway" look is appeasing other women, not what men want (which is the intrinsic goal of every foid, whether they like to admit it or not).

There is a clear contradistinction between what men and women perceive as attractive. Women think a low dimorphism look is ideal for themselves, whereas men perceive high dimorphism of the body as optimal for both men and women.

Or do they think the VS body = more likely to get a chad LTR?

 

[Xangsane]

tldr looks like a decent thread tho ill rep

Or do they think the VS body = more likely to get a chad LTR?

 

[EverythingMattersCel]

Or do they think the VS body = more likely to get a chad LTR?

Could be. Maybe they perceive a slender body with a pretty FACE as more HQNP and more suitable for LTR, while curvaceous foids may appear to be more objectified for their body and used by Chad for a ONS.

I think it's more the case that women are gullible to socialisation from the media. The millennials and older Gen-Z grew up seeing anorexic Victoria's Secret models as the pinnacle of female aesthetics. However, since the new cultural icons of younger Gen-Z are a completely different body type we have seen a surge of women gym-maxxing and getting body-enhancing surgeries. Most of them are agreeable conformists at the end of the day.

 

[EverythingMattersCel]

tldr looks like a decent thread tho ill rep

What a lot of men think the ideal male body is:

Actual ideal male body:

What women think the ideal female body is:

Actual ideal female body:

 

[Xangsane]

Could be. Maybe they perceive a slender body with a pretty FACE as more HQNP and more suitable for LTR, while curvaceous foids may appear to be more objectified for their body and used by Chad for a ONS.

I think it's more the case that women are gullible to socialisation from the media. The millennials and older Gen-Z grew up seeing anorexic Victoria's Secret models as the pinnacle of female aesthetics. However, since the new cultural icons of younger Gen-Z are a completely different body type we have seen a surge of women gym-maxxing and getting body-enhancing surgeries. Most of them are agreeable conformists at the end of the day.

So what does Chad really want if all these women are conformists yet they STILL can't get an LTR from him no matter how much they starve or gymmax?

 

[axttt_]

What a lot of men think the ideal male body is:
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Actual ideal male body:
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What women think the ideal female body is:
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Actual ideal female body:
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agree with all

 

[EverythingMattersCel]

So what does Chad really want if all these women are conformists yet they STILL can't get an LTR from him no matter how much they starve or gymmax?

Well Chad isn't a monolith, and there is an element of subjectivity. Even to the above archetypes in the OP, there is some subjectivity. A tiny % of beckies like steroid-maxxed physiques, the same way some men like skinny women with low dimorphism. The "ideal" bodies represent the broadest appeal among both genders.

There is probably a correlation between higher dimorphism chads going for higher dimorphism body beckies. Also, a point to remember is that men aren't hypergamous like women so a lot of women getting with a chad is more situational than anything. A thirsty, extroverted becky that is enslaved to chad's semen might be a safe option for a more secure LTR to chad, regardless of her body type.

Whereas most stacies will want bonafide chadlite minimum due to hypergamy.

 

[Xangsane]

Well Chad isn't a monolith, and there is an element of subjectivity. Even to the above archetypes in the OP, there is some subjectivity. A tiny % of beckies like steroid-maxxed physiques, the same way some men like skinny women with low dimorphism. The "ideal" bodies represent the broadest appeal among both genders.

There is probably a correlation between higher dimorphism chads going for higher dimorphism body beckies. Also, a point to remember is that men aren't hypergamous like women so a lot of women getting with a chad is more situational than anything. A thirsty, extroverted becky that is enslaved to chad's semen might be a safe option for a more secure LTR to chad, regardless of her body type.

Whereas most stacies will want bonafide chadlite minimum due to hypergamy.

What kinds of chads do you see go for curvier women VS skinny low dimorphism women?

 

[reptiles]

Ideal male body from a male perspective (what we know as the male gaze):
- Huge traps and delts
- Overly muscled
- Massive tree-trunk legs
- Double-barrel chest
- Height matters less

Actual ideal male body from a female perspective (what we know as the female gaze):
- There is no true "ideal male body". A good-looking FACE is the thing that matters the most by far.
- Low bodyfat <12%
- Visible abs
- Broad clavicles
- Slim waist
- Elite swimmer body proportions
- Well-developed glutes
- 6'3+
- Vascular forearms

Ideal female body from a female perspective:
- Slim to near borderline anorexic
- Lack of curves but strong hip-waist ratio
- Thigh gap
- Long legs and short torso
- Runway figure
- Small - perky curves

Actual ideal female body from a male perspective:
- A good body for foids is 80%+ of their sexual appeal
- Huge milkers
- Fat ass
- Strong hip-waist ratio
- Higher body fat (no protruding gut or cellulite though)
- Big thighs


Women who lack awareness and social intelligence will make the same mistake as subhuman gym-cel bulkers. A well-done BBL is the greatest lookmax a foid could do. Starve-maxxing to achieve a "runway" look is appeasing other women, not what men want (which is the intrinsic goal of every foid, whether they like to admit it or not).

There is a clear contradistinction between what men and women perceive as attractive. Women think a low dimorphism look is ideal for themselves, whereas men perceive high dimorphism of the body as optimal for both men and women.

Joever 6 3 wide clavicles joever

 

[william2605]

Ideal male body from a male perspective (what we know as the male gaze):
- Huge traps and delts
- Overly muscled
- Massive tree-trunk legs
- Double-barrel chest
- Height matters less

Actual ideal male body from a female perspective (what we know as the female gaze):
- There is no true "ideal male body". A good-looking FACE is the thing that matters the most by far.
- Low bodyfat <12%
- Visible abs
- Broad clavicles
- Slim waist
- Elite swimmer body proportions
- Well-developed glutes
- 6'3+
- Vascular forearms

Ideal female body from a female perspective:
- Slim to near borderline anorexic
- Lack of curves but strong hip-waist ratio
- Thigh gap
- Long legs and short torso
- Runway figure
- Small - perky curves

Actual ideal female body from a male perspective:
- A good body for foids is 80%+ of their sexual appeal
- Huge milkers
- Fat ass
- Strong hip-waist ratio
- Higher body fat (no protruding gut or cellulite though)
- Big thighs


Women who lack awareness and social intelligence will make the same mistake as subhuman gym-cel bulkers. A well-done BBL is the greatest lookmax a foid could do. Starve-maxxing to achieve a "runway" look is appeasing other women, not what men want (which is the intrinsic goal of every foid, whether they like to admit it or not).

There is a clear contradistinction between what men and women perceive as attractive. Women think a low dimorphism look is ideal for themselves, whereas men perceive high dimorphism of the body as optimal for both men and women.

It’s this female gaze ?

 

[EverythingMattersCel]

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It’s this female gaze ?

Yes close to the ideal for the female gaze. Clavicles could be wider and maybe chest a tiny bit fuller.

 

[AustrianMogger]

Ideal male body from a male perspective (what we know as the male gaze):
- Huge traps and delts
- Overly muscled
- Massive tree-trunk legs
- Double-barrel chest
- Height matters less

Actual ideal male body from a female perspective (what we know as the female gaze):
- There is no true "ideal male body". A good-looking FACE is the thing that matters the most by far.
- Low bodyfat <12%
- Visible abs
- Broad clavicles
- Slim waist
- Elite swimmer body proportions
- Well-developed glutes
- 6'3+
- Vascular forearms

Ideal female body from a female perspective:
- Slim to near borderline anorexic
- Lack of curves but strong hip-waist ratio
- Thigh gap
- Long legs and short torso
- Runway figure
- Small - perky curves

Actual ideal female body from a male perspective:
- A good body for foids is 80%+ of their sexual appeal
- Huge milkers
- Fat ass
- Strong hip-waist ratio
- Higher body fat (no protruding gut or cellulite though)
- Big thighs


Women who lack awareness and social intelligence will make the same mistake as subhuman gym-cel bulkers. A well-done BBL is the greatest lookmax a foid could do. Starve-maxxing to achieve a "runway" look is appeasing other women, not what men want (which is the intrinsic goal of every foid, whether they like to admit it or not).

There is a clear contradistinction between what men and women perceive as attractive. Women think a low dimorphism look is ideal for themselves, whereas men perceive high dimorphism of the body as optimal for both men and women.

Idk dude i think female gaze maxed woman Sound better

 

[JohnnyRamone]

Ideal male body from a male perspective (what we know as the male gaze):
- Huge traps and delts
- Overly muscled
- Massive tree-trunk legs
- Double-barrel chest
- Height matters less

Actual ideal male body from a female perspective (what we know as the female gaze):
- There is no true "ideal male body". A good-looking FACE is the thing that matters the most by far.
- Low bodyfat <12%
- Visible abs
- Broad clavicles
- Slim waist
- Elite swimmer body proportions
- Well-developed glutes
- 6'3+
- Vascular forearms

Ideal female body from a female perspective:
- Slim to near borderline anorexic
- Lack of curves but strong hip-waist ratio
- Thigh gap
- Long legs and short torso
- Runway figure
- Small - perky curves

Actual ideal female body from a male perspective:
- A good body for foids is 80%+ of their sexual appeal
- Huge milkers
- Fat ass
- Strong hip-waist ratio
- Higher body fat (no protruding gut or cellulite though)
- Big thighs


Women who lack awareness and social intelligence will make the same mistake as subhuman gym-cel bulkers. A well-done BBL is the greatest lookmax a foid could do. Starve-maxxing to achieve a "runway" look is appeasing other women, not what men want (which is the intrinsic goal of every foid, whether they like to admit it or not).

There is a clear contradistinction between what men and women perceive as attractive. Women think a low dimorphism look is ideal for themselves, whereas men perceive high dimorphism of the body as optimal for both men and women.

Most women don’t seem to care about abs. That seems to be a male obsession. And you don’t need to be under 12% body fat. Between 10 and 20% is fine with a muscular base. The more muscle mass you build, the more lean you’ll look at higher body fat percentages anyways. Also, speaking as someone that is over 6’3, I think the ideal height for dating is probably 6’2 or 6’2-6’4.

 

[Amnesia]

or people have different tastes, not everything is black and white

I much prefer the skinny anorexic look on women, I dont even like girls who are athletically lean, I HATE women that work out at all, any bit of muscle on a girl even her ass is gross

 

[Xangsane]

or people have different tastes, not everything is black and white

I much prefer the skinny anorexic look on women, I dont even like girls who are athletically lean, I HATE women that work out at all, any bit of muscle on a girl even her ass is gross

Why? Would you date prime Kate moss?

 

[forevergymcelling]

What a lot of men think the ideal male body is:
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Actual ideal male body:
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What women think the ideal female body is:
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Actual ideal female body:
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Fuark that's the bitch who said I mogged Maher when I maherfished her and revealed my true self

She now has a med gymcel boyfriend who looks similar to me, but she has gotten way fatter

She looks garbage now

 

[einzigartig]

Ideal male body from a male perspective (what we know as the male gaze):
- Huge traps and delts
- Overly muscled
- Massive tree-trunk legs
- Double-barrel chest
- Height matters less

Actual ideal male body from a female perspective (what we know as the female gaze):
- There is no true "ideal male body". A good-looking FACE is the thing that matters the most by far.
- Low bodyfat <12%
- Visible abs
- Broad clavicles
- Slim waist
- Elite swimmer body proportions
- Well-developed glutes
- 6'3+
- Vascular forearms

Ideal female body from a female perspective:
- Slim to near borderline anorexic
- Lack of curves but strong hip-waist ratio
- Thigh gap
- Long legs and short torso
- Runway figure
- Small - perky curves

Actual ideal female body from a male perspective:
- A good body for foids is 80%+ of their sexual appeal
- Huge milkers
- Fat ass
- Strong hip-waist ratio
- Higher body fat (no protruding gut or cellulite though)
- Big thighs


Women who lack awareness and social intelligence will make the same mistake as subhuman gym-cel bulkers. A well-done BBL is the greatest lookmax a foid could do. Starve-maxxing to achieve a "runway" look is appeasing other women, not what men want (which is the intrinsic goal of every foid, whether they like to admit it or not).

There is a clear contradistinction between what men and women perceive as attractive. Women think a low dimorphism look is ideal for themselves, whereas men perceive high dimorphism of the body as optimal for both men and women.

cope women crave 5'4 indians

 

[einzigartig]

What a lot of men think the ideal male body is:
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Actual ideal male body:
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What women think the ideal female body is:
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Actual ideal female body:
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2nd girl has bad tits and 1st girl looks good

and never have i ever thought that first male body is perfect for getting girls

 

[Surfsup]

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Fuark that's the bitch who said I mogged Maher when I maherfished her and revealed my true self

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She now has a med gymcel boyfriend who looks similar to me, but she has gotten way fatter

She looks garbage now

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Wth ur literally the biggest fakecel on the forum KYS

 

[forevergymcelling]

Wth ur literally the biggest fakecel on the forum KYS

When did I ever claim to be incel

 

[BadLuck7892]

Ideal male body from a male perspective (what we know as the male gaze):
- Huge traps and delts
- Overly muscled
- Massive tree-trunk legs
- Double-barrel chest
- Height matters less

Actual ideal male body from a female perspective (what we know as the female gaze):
- There is no true "ideal male body". A good-looking FACE is the thing that matters the most by far.
- Low bodyfat <12%
- Visible abs
- Broad clavicles
- Slim waist
- Elite swimmer body proportions
- Well-developed glutes
- 6'3+
- Vascular forearms

Ideal female body from a female perspective:
- Slim to near borderline anorexic
- Lack of curves but strong hip-waist ratio
- Thigh gap
- Long legs and short torso
- Runway figure
- Small - perky curves

Actual ideal female body from a male perspective:
- A good body for foids is 80%+ of their sexual appeal
- Huge milkers
- Fat ass
- Strong hip-waist ratio
- Higher body fat (no protruding gut or cellulite though)
- Big thighs


Women who lack awareness and social intelligence will make the same mistake as subhuman gym-cel bulkers. A well-done BBL is the greatest lookmax a foid could do. Starve-maxxing to achieve a "runway" look is appeasing other women, not what men want (which is the intrinsic goal of every foid, whether they like to admit it or not).

There is a clear contradistinction between what men and women perceive as attractive. Women think a low dimorphism look is ideal for themselves, whereas men perceive high dimorphism of the body as optimal for both men and women.

It really is amazing how many foids think we want a small backside (and anorexic build) on a woman.

 

[BadLuck7892]

What a lot of men think the ideal male body is:
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Actual ideal male body:
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What women think the ideal female body is:
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Actual ideal female body:
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The bodybuilder with a spray tan doesn't even look real. He looks like a doll.

Anyone who thinks that's the ideal is an idiot.

 

[Ultimate Subhuman™]

- Elite swimmer body proportions

One of the most Blackpilled sports tbh.
6'4+, 20in+ Bidelt, Insane Wingpsan or your not making it