Masseter insertions are a lie

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We all know somebody here telling other people to only start chewing if they have "Good" or "Low" Masseter insterions...
THIS MAKES 0 SENSE

The biceps is located on the arm ?
The Quadriceps is located on your legs ?

The temporalis muscle is located on the temples ,
Well guess what ?

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The masseter is located on the whole ramus !

Im amazed by the fact that some people think you can naturally have a Long ramus like this :
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And Masseter inserted Here :
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It is not possible , "High masseter insertions" just means Short ramus and High Gonial Angle
"Low Masseter insertions just means Long ramus and Low Gonial Angle
The masseter Always looks like this :
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Wether is is short or long...

What actually Matters is muscle fibers ,
Some people have naturally Large masseters wich means , no matter what , by regularly chewing like an average person , they will always have Wide masseter and wide gonions since they are correlated.. same for people with very wide temporalis...
To get wide gonions you either need :
-Good genetics
-Proper jaw development and habits very young (even @Akatlyn said that he has inward gonions but he had proper chewing habits even at a young age)

This thread is also here to explain that Gonial Implants are the only worth it because they are just behind the masseter and dont pretend to lenghten the ramus , wich would look very uncanny because the masseter insertion dont change..

Small Recap :
Masseter insertions are always the same , it is the gonial angle and ramus lenght that makes them "lower" or "higher"
Muscle fibers and gonions are more important , and they are mostly genetics...


It may look like a water thread , but a lot of people are still talking about masseter insertions like they exist jfl...
 
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and guess what bitch there are good and bad bicep insertions
your masseter is always located at the same place.. ..
What matters is muscle fibers , "short or long" masseter does not exist , same for high or low insertions
 
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your masseter is always located at the same place.. ..
What matters is muscle fibers , "short or long" masseter does not exist , same for high or low insertions
if you are recessed then chewing will bloat you to put it simply
 
 
Yeah , Chewing will bloat 95% of people , the 5% left already have a good jaw..
they do not have a good jaw , they have good mid face , good prokjection of lower maxilla , above avg ramus [ more pressure generation] , if you are in puberty you can get atleast straight gonions by chewing provided you have the above 2 requirements fulfilled

 
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For real. It's osteotomies or nothing for the ramus
I've seen some incredible thread discussing all mandible osteotomies in 2020 but can't find it for some reason do u know what i'm talking about and what osteotomies could lenghten the ramus
 

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