Maxfac/Ortho scared of advancement when dealing with underbite?

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Orthos seem to always be stubbornly suggesting pushing the mandible back rather than giving a better mandible length when dealing with an underbite. I am wondering why that is the case, and when you suggest solving issues by advancing both jaws forward they see it as some kind of insane unorthodox procedure.

How do you go about convincing them? Do you even bother trying to explain an attractive forward grown face? Do they even know what "anteface" even means?

Needs some suggestions here so that I don't get cucked out of thousands of dollars just to have an autistic, pancake profile. "But at least your teeth are meeting now, that's all that matters! :)"
 
Before anyone mentions it, you can still have an underbite and have a shitty mandible length overall/recessed looking lower jaw.
 
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There's a lecture of a surgeon on YouTube, you can search it.
 
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There's a lecture of a surgeon on YouTube, you can search it.

Hermann Sailer's lecture. I know I saw it, what am I supposed to do? Should I just email it to my ortho and be like "watch this you retard"
 
Hermann Sailer's lecture. I know I saw it, what am I supposed to do? Should I just email it to my ortho and be like "watch this you retard"

You should send him that, less the part about being a retard. I'm gonna have this Friday a consultation about my surgeries and you bet I'm gonna black pill the living shit out of that blue pilled clinics.

It's you that will be paying, you are the boss.
 
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You should send him that, less the part about being a retard. I'm gonna have this Friday a consultation about my surgeries and you bet I'm gonna black pill the living shit out of that blue pilled clinics.

It's you that will be paying, you are the boss.

You're absolutely right. No one is holding me at gunpoint to get this procedure, I willingly looked to get this done and I only have one face so I want the best possible outcome. Will definitely talk about Sailer and be more upfront with what I want.

I think I am having another consultation on Thursday, so I should probably prepare with what I'm going to say.

Good luck on your consultation and let me know how it goes.
 
immediately tell that pussy nigga advance or no money
 
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immediately tell that pussy nigga advance or no money
Tbh yeah, worst case scenario couldn't I just keep my braces and find a different ortho if they keep being dickheads?
 
When it comes to jaw surgeries, only consider blackpilled or semi-blackpilled doctors.
There's a reason the same maxfac surgeon names keep being mentioned on this board, those who have an eye for (male) aesthetics are few and far between.
 
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You're absolutely right. No one is holding me at gunpoint to get this procedure, I willingly looked to get this done and I only have one face so I want the best possible outcome. Will definitely talk about Sailer and be more upfront with what I want.

I think I am having another consultation on Thursday, so I should probably prepare with what I'm going to say.

Good luck on your consultation and let me know how it goes.

Surgeons above all should know what looks good and what doesn't, you needs to make him push the physical limits on how much you can dislocate your bones.

Thx dude, my parents are completely against this and my mother said I'm all alone. I'm gonna show those they're wrong; and has always I'll post it. Do you know about the discord??
 
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When it comes to jaw surgeries, only consider blackpilled or semi-blackpilled doctors.
There's a reason the same maxfac surgeon names keep being mentioned on this board, those who have an eye for (male) aesthetics are few and far between.

I understand, and honestly would do one of the bigger name guys but I am assuming they need to work with my ortho because of bite issues? Ortho seems to be the one pulling the strings here. I keep trying to gently nudge my ortho saying "yeah, I want my bite aligned but we can kill two birds with one stone, get the bite aligned and also move the face forward". Don't know how well it's getting through.
 
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Surgeons above all should know what looks good and what doesn't, you needs to make him push the physical limits on how much you can dislocate your bones.

Thx dude, my parents are completely against this and my mother said I'm all alone. I'm gonna show those they're wrong; and has always I'll post it. Do you know about the discord??

Unfortunately it seems a lot of typical maxfacs only care about the functional element of the procedure, so as long as your teeth meet they can give less of a shit whether your profile is deathtier, their job is done.

Yeah, same here financing all this myself tbh.

Nah, I'm not familiar with the discord, but I'd love to join
 
Unfortunately it seems a lot of typical maxfacs only care about the functional element of the procedure, so as long as your teeth meet they can give less of a shit whether your profile is deathtier, their job is done.

Yeah, same here financing all this myself tbh.

Nah, I'm not familiar with the discord, but I'd love to join

Yeah it's definitely hard to find any near by surgeons near your location that pay attention to aesthetics also, good luck with that.

The discord link is from Amnesia itself (halo chad I know, because everybody joined). First link right away in the thread linked bellow.

 
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Yeah it's definitely hard to find any near by surgeons near your location that pay attention to aesthetics also, good luck with that.

The discord link is from Amnesia itself (halo chad I know, because everybody joined). First link right away in the thread linked bellow.


It's a struggle, but it's better to be picky and work with the best in a given situation than settling for whatever is the path of least resistance. Could have gone with a few doctors I met with first but I knew in my gut I really wasn't sold on them.

Also thanks, I appreciate it!
 
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