What’s are both of them if u have time to explain
mse + face puller.
Can you explain them or tell me where I can find info on what they are
They are the same thing, basically pulls your maxilla forward, or aids in that development while your maxilla is growing
MSE works too
Just search up reverse pull head gear and maxillary skeletal expander
Ok thanks
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
couple that with HGH and you will experience lots of maxillary growth
Idk where to get hgh uk and parents would definitely not allow it but I could try hide although I still dk where to get and not have parents see deliveryGrowth from 16 to 18 years was greater than that from 18 to 20 years. Maxillary and mandibular growth were highly correlated at each age period. However, overall mandibular growth was approximately twice that of overall maxillary growth.Facial growth in males 16 to 20 years of age - PubMed
Postpubertal craniofacial skeletal and dental changes were examined from lateral cephalograms taken when subjects were 16, 18, and 20 years of age. The sample consisted of males with no previous orthodontic treatment who had Class I skeletal and dental characteristics. Mandibular growth was...
stop spreading misinformation
couple that with HGH and you will experience lots of maxillary growth
ascend or die. find a way, or dont. i figured it out when i was 16
Wait hold on, what did that study do did they do any orthontic treatments or did their maxilla just grow as they aged?
it grows and is opened for growth, but how much depends on genetics and if you are already recessed now is the time to do facepull headgear
Sorry Ik im stupid but you’re saying they didn’t do anything and it grew?
CopeGrowth from 16 to 18 years was greater than that from 18 to 20 years. Maxillary and mandibular growth were highly correlated at each age period. However, overall mandibular growth was approximately twice that of overall maxillary growth.Facial growth in males 16 to 20 years of age - PubMed
Postpubertal craniofacial skeletal and dental changes were examined from lateral cephalograms taken when subjects were 16, 18, and 20 years of age. The sample consisted of males with no previous orthodontic treatment who had Class I skeletal and dental characteristics. Mandibular growth was...
stop spreading misinformation
couple that with HGH and you will experience lots of maxillary growth
denying scientific studies before admitting you are wrong. cage.
read the study, and rep my greycel ass
All it said was that your jaw grows more at 16 than 18 which is common fucking sense
Ur wrong but ok
It’s a yes or no I read it can you answer yes or no did they do anything to their maxilla for it to grow
why not use a dna appliance or a biobloc first? and then a face mask.
research orthotropic/orthodontic appliances, and also thumbpull like crazy.
I’m thumbpulling and idk if it’s cope it probably is but idc I need something to cope with
try getting a biobloc or something similar. just call hella ortho clinics near you and ask if they offer that service at your age. also if you're thumbpulling wear a bite splint so it actually has effects. @cranium.autist on tiktok has a lot of stuff for thumbpulling.
By the way does thumbulling still work if I have retainers at night I imagine it would because it’s not the teeth ur moving correct?
Thanks
yeah it'd work. but your retainers should change often if thumbpulling is working.
Okay thanks for the help
What is a bite splint sorry?
it's like a mouth guard to kinda lock your jaw in place to let bone grow in from thumbpulling. but since you're wearing retainers you shouldn't need that unless you wanna have them in your mouth 24/7,
Alr thanks so should I just not worry and just keep using my retainers at night?
yeah. though you should wear a bite splint after you've experienced expansion. since your bone should still be growing in 1-2 years after.
Thanks I think I’ll have to talk to ortho because I’m pretty sure my treatment is finished and stuff but if the retainers don’t fit I’ll get new
