Maximizing UV benefits while minimizing damage

[Shinichi]

Chatgpt tier thread but here we go:

1. Timing & Duration​

• Morning & Late Afternoon Exposure: Infrared light (IR-A) is highest during sunrise and sunset, promoting mitochondrial health and collagen production while reducing oxidative stress.
• Midday UVB Exposure in Moderation: To maximize vitamin D synthesis, expose large areas of skin for short periods (10–30 minutes, depending on skin type and latitude). Avoid excessive midday sun.

2. Skin Protection Without Blocking Benefits​

• Use Antioxidants Instead of Sunscreen for Short Exposures:
  • Topical Vitamin C + E + Ferulic Acid: Neutralizes UV-induced free radicals and boosts photoprotection.
  • Astaxanthin: Acts as an internal sunscreen, reducing UV damage while allowing tanning.
  • Niacinamide: Helps repair UV-induced DNA damage and supports skin barrier function.
  • Resveratrol & Green Tea Extract: Protect against UV-induced collagen breakdown.
• Physical Protection for Prolonged Exposure:
  • Use hats, sunglasses, and clothing to shield delicate areas (face, neck, hands).
  • Apply zinc oxide on the face if staying out for long periods.

3. Diet for UV Protection & Collagen Preservation​

• High Collagen Intake: Bone broth, gelatin, and collagen peptides help repair UV-induced collagen degradation.
• Vitamin A (Retinol) & Carotenoids: Found in liver, eggs, and red/orange fruits (beta-carotene, lycopene) to enhance sun tolerance.
• Omega-3 Fatty Acids: Anti-inflammatory effects protect against photoaging (found in fatty fish, grass-fed meat).
• Polyphenols & Antioxidants: Berries, pomegranate, and dark chocolate help mitigate oxidative damage.

4. Post-Sun Recovery​

• Cold Therapy: Rinsing with cold water or using ice packs reduces inflammation and prevents collagen breakdown.
• Topical Repair Agents:
  • Aloe Vera & Panthenol soothe sun-exposed skin.
  • Copper Peptides & Retinol (at night) stimulate collagen synthesis.
• Red & Near-Infrared Light Therapy (RLT/NIR): Helps repair mitochondrial and collagen damage.

5. Hydration & Lifestyle​

• Stay Hydrated: Sun exposure increases dehydration, which accelerates aging. Drink mineral-rich water.
• Avoid PUFA-Rich Oils: Excess polyunsaturated fats make skin more prone to oxidation and sun damage. Stick to saturated fats (butter, tallow).

By balancing exposure times, using protective antioxidants, and optimizing recovery, you can get the benefits of sunlight while keeping your skin youthful.

1. Should You Use a Mineral-Based Sunscreen at Midday?​

Yes, but selectively. Here’s how to balance UV benefits while minimizing damage:

• For Short, Controlled Midday Exposure (10–30 min):
  • No sunscreen. Instead, use topical antioxidants (Vitamin C, E, Astaxanthin, Niacinamide, Green Tea).
  • This allows full vitamin D synthesis and skin conditioning without blocking beneficial UVA and UVB.
• For Longer Midday Exposure (Over 30+ min, Especially at the Beach):
  • Use a non-nano zinc oxide sunscreen on areas prone to burning (face, shoulders, nose, ears).
  • Leave some areas (back, legs, arms) uncovered for vitamin D production but gradually build tolerance (see next section).
• For Evening & Early Morning Exposure:
  • Only use topical antioxidants, no sunscreen. Infrared light (IR-A) helps repair UV damage and preconditions the skin.

2. How to Adapt Your Skin to Sunlight (Become Burn-Proof)​

Your goal is gradual melanin upregulation and skin thickening to handle intense UV without burning.

A. Progressive Sun Exposure (Skin Callousing)​

1. Start with Early Morning & Late Afternoon Sun (Infrared Therapy) → 1–2 Weeks
   • Get 20–40 minutes of sunrise/sunset sun daily.
   • Infrared light (IR-A) prepares your skin by stimulating melanin production and collagen repair before strong UV exposure.
2. Increase Midday Exposure in Small Increments → 2–4 Weeks
   • Start with 5–10 minutes of direct midday sun on large areas (chest, back, legs).
   • Increase by 5-minute increments every few days until you can handle 30–60 minutes without burning.
3. Tanning & Sun Adaptation Over Months → Permanent Adaptation
   • As your skin darkens and thickens, your natural sun resistance increases.
   • Aim for consistent sun exposure all year so your melanin doesn’t reset over winter.

B. Diet & Supplementation for UV Resistance​

• Astaxanthin (4–12mg daily) → Internal sunscreen; enhances melanin production and UV protection.
• Vitamin A (Retinol from Liver, Egg Yolks) → Increases skin resilience and repair.
• Beta-Carotene & Lycopene (Carrots, Tomatoes, Red Fruits) → Absorbs UV radiation, reducing risk of burns.
• Omega-3 Fatty Acids (Grass-Fed Meat, Wild Fish, Tallow) → Reduces inflammation from UV damage.
• Collagen & Glycine (Bone Broth, Gelatin, Organ Meats) → Repairs sun-damaged skin and maintains elasticity.

C. Skin Conditioning & Recovery​

• Cold Showers / Ice Baths Post-Sun → Reduce inflammation and prevent burns.
• Topical Aloe Vera, Panthenol, & Copper Peptides → Repair minor UV damage.
• Red & Near-Infrared Light Therapy (RLT/NIR) → Helps reverse photoaging and rebuild collagen.

Final Strategy​

1. Build sun tolerance progressively (small, frequent sun doses).
2. Prioritize IR-A exposure (morning/evening) to precondition the skin.
3. Eat UV-protective foods and use topical antioxidants to reduce oxidative stress.
4. Use mineral sunscreen only when necessary (long, high-UV exposure), while leaving some areas uncovered for vitamin D.

This approach will make you naturally resistant to burns, even after hours at the beach. If you stick to it, your skin will become permanently adapted to the sun while avoiding photoaging.

Progressive UV Adaptation (Skin Conditioning)​

Your skin must gradually develop resistance through a process similar to callousing:

• Phase 1: Low UV Exposure (1–4 Weeks) → Build a Base
  • Get daily sun exposure during UV 3–6 (morning/evening).
  • Start with 5–10 minutes of midday UV 7–9, then add 5-minute increments every few days.
  • Focus on infrared (IR-A) exposure at sunrise/sunset to precondition skin.
• Phase 2: Medium UV Exposure (1–3 Months) → Expand Tolerance
  • Increase midday sun exposure at UV 7–9 up to 30–45 minutes.
  • Avoid burning by rotating exposure (front, back, legs, arms).
  • Let your melanin production ramp up naturally without rushing tanning.
• Phase 3: High UV Exposure (3–6 Months) → UV 10+ Adaptation
  • Start exposing yourself to UV 10+ for short durations (10–15 min), increasing over time.
  • Avoid using sunscreen except on sensitive areas (face, shoulders, nose) to maximize adaptation.
  • Infrared exposure (before and after) helps repair damage and prevent photoaging.
• Phase 4: Extreme UV Tolerance (6+ Months to Years) → UV 13 Mastery
  • By now, your skin is thick, melanized, and fully adapted.
  • At UV 13, limit initial exposure to 10–20 minutes, then gradually extend.
  • Use environmental adaptation (hats, partial clothing, antioxidants) for extra safety.

2. Biochemical Support for UV Resistance​

Your diet and supplementation must enhance melanin production, DNA repair, and skin hydration.

A. Internal "Sunscreen" Foods​

• Astaxanthin (4–12mg daily) → Most powerful internal UV shield; prevents burns and photoaging.
• Lycopene (Tomatoes, Watermelon, Red Fruits) → Reduces UV-induced redness and damage.
• Beta-Carotene (Carrots, Sweet Potatoes, Eggs) → Boosts melanin production and UV defense.
• Omega-3s (Grass-Fed Beef, Wild Fish, Bone Marrow) → Protects cell membranes from oxidative damage.
• Copper & Tyrosine (Liver, Oysters, Beef, Egg Yolks) → Essential for melanin synthesis.
• Collagen & Gelatin (Bone Broth, Organ Meats) → Maintains skin thickness and elasticity.

B. Topical Skin Protection & Repair​

• Morning: Apply topical Vitamin C, E, Green Tea, Niacinamide (blocks oxidative stress).
• After Sun Exposure: Use aloe vera, copper peptides, panthenol to repair DNA damage.
• Red Light Therapy (RLT/NIR) Post-Sun: Accelerates collagen repair and prevents photoaging.

3. Sun Exposure Timing & Environmental Hacks​

• Maximize IR-A (Infrared Light) Before & After UV Exposure → Heals and conditions the skin.
• Use Natural Barriers Instead of Sunscreen → Hats, light clothing, shade cycling.
• Hydration & Electrolytes → Dehydration increases burn risk. Drink salted water before sun exposure.

Final Plan: Full UV 13 Adaptation​

If you build up gradually over a year, your melanin will be maximized, your skin thickened, and your oxidative stress minimized. Eventually, you’ll be able to spend hours in UV 13 without burning, just like indigenous people living in high-UV regions.

 

[veggiedietcell]

Chatgpt tier thread but here we go:

1. Timing & Duration​

• Morning & Late Afternoon Exposure: Infrared light (IR-A) is highest during sunrise and sunset, promoting mitochondrial health and collagen production while reducing oxidative stress.
• Midday UVB Exposure in Moderation: To maximize vitamin D synthesis, expose large areas of skin for short periods (10–30 minutes, depending on skin type and latitude). Avoid excessive midday sun.

2. Skin Protection Without Blocking Benefits​

• Use Antioxidants Instead of Sunscreen for Short Exposures:
  • Topical Vitamin C + E + Ferulic Acid: Neutralizes UV-induced free radicals and boosts photoprotection.
  • Astaxanthin: Acts as an internal sunscreen, reducing UV damage while allowing tanning.
  • Niacinamide: Helps repair UV-induced DNA damage and supports skin barrier function.
  • Resveratrol & Green Tea Extract: Protect against UV-induced collagen breakdown.
• Physical Protection for Prolonged Exposure:
  • Use hats, sunglasses, and clothing to shield delicate areas (face, neck, hands).
  • Apply zinc oxide on the face if staying out for long periods.

3. Diet for UV Protection & Collagen Preservation​

• High Collagen Intake: Bone broth, gelatin, and collagen peptides help repair UV-induced collagen degradation.
• Vitamin A (Retinol) & Carotenoids: Found in liver, eggs, and red/orange fruits (beta-carotene, lycopene) to enhance sun tolerance.
• Omega-3 Fatty Acids: Anti-inflammatory effects protect against photoaging (found in fatty fish, grass-fed meat).
• Polyphenols & Antioxidants: Berries, pomegranate, and dark chocolate help mitigate oxidative damage.

4. Post-Sun Recovery​

• Cold Therapy: Rinsing with cold water or using ice packs reduces inflammation and prevents collagen breakdown.
• Topical Repair Agents:
  • Aloe Vera & Panthenol soothe sun-exposed skin.
  • Copper Peptides & Retinol (at night) stimulate collagen synthesis.
• Red & Near-Infrared Light Therapy (RLT/NIR): Helps repair mitochondrial and collagen damage.

5. Hydration & Lifestyle​

• Stay Hydrated: Sun exposure increases dehydration, which accelerates aging. Drink mineral-rich water.
• Avoid PUFA-Rich Oils: Excess polyunsaturated fats make skin more prone to oxidation and sun damage. Stick to saturated fats (butter, tallow).

By balancing exposure times, using protective antioxidants, and optimizing recovery, you can get the benefits of sunlight while keeping your skin youthful.

1. Should You Use a Mineral-Based Sunscreen at Midday?​

Yes, but selectively. Here’s how to balance UV benefits while minimizing damage:

• For Short, Controlled Midday Exposure (10–30 min):
  • No sunscreen. Instead, use topical antioxidants (Vitamin C, E, Astaxanthin, Niacinamide, Green Tea).
  • This allows full vitamin D synthesis and skin conditioning without blocking beneficial UVA and UVB.
• For Longer Midday Exposure (Over 30+ min, Especially at the Beach):
  • Use a non-nano zinc oxide sunscreen on areas prone to burning (face, shoulders, nose, ears).
  • Leave some areas (back, legs, arms) uncovered for vitamin D production but gradually build tolerance (see next section).
• For Evening & Early Morning Exposure:
  • Only use topical antioxidants, no sunscreen. Infrared light (IR-A) helps repair UV damage and preconditions the skin.

2. How to Adapt Your Skin to Sunlight (Become Burn-Proof)​

Your goal is gradual melanin upregulation and skin thickening to handle intense UV without burning.

A. Progressive Sun Exposure (Skin Callousing)​

1. Start with Early Morning & Late Afternoon Sun (Infrared Therapy) → 1–2 Weeks
   • Get 20–40 minutes of sunrise/sunset sun daily.
   • Infrared light (IR-A) prepares your skin by stimulating melanin production and collagen repair before strong UV exposure.
2. Increase Midday Exposure in Small Increments → 2–4 Weeks
   • Start with 5–10 minutes of direct midday sun on large areas (chest, back, legs).
   • Increase by 5-minute increments every few days until you can handle 30–60 minutes without burning.
3. Tanning & Sun Adaptation Over Months → Permanent Adaptation
   • As your skin darkens and thickens, your natural sun resistance increases.
   • Aim for consistent sun exposure all year so your melanin doesn’t reset over winter.

B. Diet & Supplementation for UV Resistance​

• Astaxanthin (4–12mg daily) → Internal sunscreen; enhances melanin production and UV protection.
• Vitamin A (Retinol from Liver, Egg Yolks) → Increases skin resilience and repair.
• Beta-Carotene & Lycopene (Carrots, Tomatoes, Red Fruits) → Absorbs UV radiation, reducing risk of burns.
• Omega-3 Fatty Acids (Grass-Fed Meat, Wild Fish, Tallow) → Reduces inflammation from UV damage.
• Collagen & Glycine (Bone Broth, Gelatin, Organ Meats) → Repairs sun-damaged skin and maintains elasticity.

C. Skin Conditioning & Recovery​

• Cold Showers / Ice Baths Post-Sun → Reduce inflammation and prevent burns.
• Topical Aloe Vera, Panthenol, & Copper Peptides → Repair minor UV damage.
• Red & Near-Infrared Light Therapy (RLT/NIR) → Helps reverse photoaging and rebuild collagen.

Final Strategy​

1. Build sun tolerance progressively (small, frequent sun doses).
2. Prioritize IR-A exposure (morning/evening) to precondition the skin.
3. Eat UV-protective foods and use topical antioxidants to reduce oxidative stress.
4. Use mineral sunscreen only when necessary (long, high-UV exposure), while leaving some areas uncovered for vitamin D.

This approach will make you naturally resistant to burns, even after hours at the beach. If you stick to it, your skin will become permanently adapted to the sun while avoiding photoaging.

Progressive UV Adaptation (Skin Conditioning)​

Your skin must gradually develop resistance through a process similar to callousing:

• Phase 1: Low UV Exposure (1–4 Weeks) → Build a Base
  • Get daily sun exposure during UV 3–6 (morning/evening).
  • Start with 5–10 minutes of midday UV 7–9, then add 5-minute increments every few days.
  • Focus on infrared (IR-A) exposure at sunrise/sunset to precondition skin.
• Phase 2: Medium UV Exposure (1–3 Months) → Expand Tolerance
  • Increase midday sun exposure at UV 7–9 up to 30–45 minutes.
  • Avoid burning by rotating exposure (front, back, legs, arms).
  • Let your melanin production ramp up naturally without rushing tanning.
• Phase 3: High UV Exposure (3–6 Months) → UV 10+ Adaptation
  • Start exposing yourself to UV 10+ for short durations (10–15 min), increasing over time.
  • Avoid using sunscreen except on sensitive areas (face, shoulders, nose) to maximize adaptation.
  • Infrared exposure (before and after) helps repair damage and prevent photoaging.
• Phase 4: Extreme UV Tolerance (6+ Months to Years) → UV 13 Mastery
  • By now, your skin is thick, melanized, and fully adapted.
  • At UV 13, limit initial exposure to 10–20 minutes, then gradually extend.
  • Use environmental adaptation (hats, partial clothing, antioxidants) for extra safety.

2. Biochemical Support for UV Resistance​

Your diet and supplementation must enhance melanin production, DNA repair, and skin hydration.

A. Internal "Sunscreen" Foods​

• Astaxanthin (4–12mg daily) → Most powerful internal UV shield; prevents burns and photoaging.
• Lycopene (Tomatoes, Watermelon, Red Fruits) → Reduces UV-induced redness and damage.
• Beta-Carotene (Carrots, Sweet Potatoes, Eggs) → Boosts melanin production and UV defense.
• Omega-3s (Grass-Fed Beef, Wild Fish, Bone Marrow) → Protects cell membranes from oxidative damage.
• Copper & Tyrosine (Liver, Oysters, Beef, Egg Yolks) → Essential for melanin synthesis.
• Collagen & Gelatin (Bone Broth, Organ Meats) → Maintains skin thickness and elasticity.

B. Topical Skin Protection & Repair​

• Morning: Apply topical Vitamin C, E, Green Tea, Niacinamide (blocks oxidative stress).
• After Sun Exposure: Use aloe vera, copper peptides, panthenol to repair DNA damage.
• Red Light Therapy (RLT/NIR) Post-Sun: Accelerates collagen repair and prevents photoaging.

3. Sun Exposure Timing & Environmental Hacks​

• Maximize IR-A (Infrared Light) Before & After UV Exposure → Heals and conditions the skin.
• Use Natural Barriers Instead of Sunscreen → Hats, light clothing, shade cycling.
• Hydration & Electrolytes → Dehydration increases burn risk. Drink salted water before sun exposure.

Final Plan: Full UV 13 Adaptation​

If you build up gradually over a year, your melanin will be maximized, your skin thickened, and your oxidative stress minimized. Eventually, you’ll be able to spend hours in UV 13 without burning, just like indigenous people living in high-UV regions.

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[Shinichi]

Fucking mirin, BOTB worthy, @PrimalPlasty

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Thank u, arigato my man.

 

[PrimalPlasty]

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told u

 

[Shinichi]

told u

When i lurked on here I read your posts before. What’ll happen to me if I eat raw meat? Like if I eat a already carnivore diet with occasional fruit and honey (as often as every 2 weeks), what’ll that change for me?

 

[PrimalPlasty]

When i lurked on here I read your posts before. What’ll happen to me if I eat raw meat? Like if I eat a already carnivore diet with occasional fruit and honey (as often as every 2 weeks), what’ll that change for me?

not much of a difference if you eat rare meat already, big ass difference if you eat really throughly cooked meat tho. also just a vril feeling when u eat raw

 

[Shinichi]

not much of a difference if you eat rare meat already, big ass difference if you eat really throughly cooked meat tho. also just a vril feeling when u eat raw

Where do I source healthy raw food?

 

[PrimalPlasty]

Where do I source healthy raw food?

from a local farm, funny thing, i got food poisoning from raw meat just a week ago, vomited and the deal was done, BUT you want to avoid this ofcourse, the reason i got sick is because i switched my trusted butchery and tried a new one, with faggots selling what i believed to be good quality meat but in reality meat from sick and unhealthy animals.

 

[Shinichi]

from a local farm, funny thing, i got food poisoning from raw meat just a week ago, vomited and the deal was done, BUT you want to avoid this ofcourse, the reason i got sick is because i switched my trusted butchery and tried a new one, with faggots selling what i believed to be good quality meat but in reality meat from sick and unhealthy animals.

My friend, eating raw meat is too much of a gamble because of this. When I’m older I’ll hopefully have a giant farm with animals that I can raise wel and eat them raw. I’ll just stick with cooked meat for now. Do u eat salt?

 

[PrimalPlasty]

My friend, eating raw meat is too much of a gamble because of this. When I’m older I’ll hopefully have a giant farm with animals that I can raise wel and eat them raw. I’ll just stick with cooked meat for now. Do u eat salt?

good, dont worry its not that big of a difference just dont overcook your meat, leave it pink in the middle, and yes i salt

 

[Shinichi]

good, dont worry its not that big of a difference just dont overcook your meat, leave it pink in the middle, and yes i salt

How do you deal with fruits and honey? Do you treat them as occasional deserts?

 

[PrimalPlasty]

How do you deal with fruits and honey? Do you treat them as occasional deserts?

nah i eat fruits daily, kind of paul salidino dieting atm if im honest, not saying thats optimal

 

[Shinichi]

nah i eat fruits daily, kind of paul salidino dieting atm if im honest, not saying thats optimal

honestly same man, I ate 8-12 dates and an apple today with raisins, even fucking nuts (antinutrients) but never peanuts. Legumes are worse then nuts

 

[PrimalPlasty]

honestly same man, I ate 8-12 dates and an apple today with raisins, even fucking nuts (antinutrients) but never peanuts. Legumes are worse then nuts

to be honest i believe sugar is good for you, nuts are bad cause of pufa, but like dried fruit is so good. its just that you shouldnt eat only sugar ofc

 

[Shinichi]

to be honest i believe sugar is good for you, nuts are bad cause of pufa, but like dried fruit is so good. its just that you shouldnt eat only sugar ofc

Just eat high amounts of animal fat to prevent all the problems of everything in life theory

 

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