Measurable gymmaxxing/leanbulking goals

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There are two ways of decreasing bf%,
  • increasing lean muscle mass,
  • decreasing fat mass
A combination of both can be realised using bulk+cut cycles. Unfortunately, bulking comes with the unwanted side effect of increasing fat mass so it cannot go on forever. Further, natty trainers have a hard time adding muscle mass once they reach an intermediate level.

Eventually, the bulk needs to stop but when? What are some measurable goals that trainees can aspire to? I've heard different answers.
  1. Bulk for 1-3 years
  2. Bulk until you rinse out your noob gains (not sure how to measure this, maybe 20-25lbs of muscle mass?)
  3. Bulk until you can hit 1 plate ohp, 2 plate bench, 3 plate squat, 4 plate deadlift
 
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Try to get to 8% bf first then lean bulk for 1 year or longer. That way you can bulk for a long time and get to 17-18% bodyfat so you dont look like a fat pig and rinse out most of your noob gains
 
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Try to get to 8% bf first then lean bulk for 1 year or longer. That way you can bulk for a long time and get to 17-18% bodyfat so you dont look like a fat pig and rinse out most of your noob gains
yea but is 1 year bulk enough for a decent natty physique like this?
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@Salludon talks about this 2 years back:

 
Try to get to 8% bf first then lean bulk for 1 year or longer. That way you can bulk for a long time and get to 17-18% bodyfat so you dont look like a fat pig and rinse out most of your noob gains
How to become sexy maen?
 
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u can probably get this from just eating at maintenance, since newbies would still make gains. would drop day and increase muscle mass
zero iq response tbh. vinnie hacker can bench more than 2.5 plates. griffin johnson can bench 2 plates. You don't see these records by "eating at maintenance" as a beginner. You need to spend a good year or two eating more and training.

Now, he's even bigger than those pics btw.
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