Men are OBJECTIVELY inelegant and ugly compared to women

[disillusioned]

I'm not even just talking about the 80/20 rule or things related to sex. I just mean IN GENERAL. Compared to females the male aesthetic is just crude, inelegant, and ugly.

There are objective, scientific reasons why humans find some things attractive and other things less so. Skin color is a great example. ALL the races of BOTH genders prefer individuals with fairer skin tones and blue or green eyes, because those things look pretty to us.

Same principles apply to aesthetic design.

There is a reason for why harsh, angular and brutalistic architecture is so commonly featured in dystopian science fiction for example: It's because those are the traits that humans sub-consciously associate with crude and inelegant design. Just like humans are naturally drawn toward bright colors, they are also naturally drawn toward smooth elegant shapes.

Feminine and beautiful: Smooth curves, elegant, pretty etc.
Masculine and ugly: Harsh, crude, angular, ugly etc.

Which is why this:

Is considered prettier than this:

Now with that in mind, ask yourself, why is that that women now seem to worship so called 'pretty boys' these days? It's because despite what most of the 'alpha male' copers believe, WOMEN DON'T WANT BRUTISH MEN. Oh sure, they want them to be strong, tall etc. But in terms of facial aesthetics, they want men that LOOK FEMININE.

Even MOST MEN feel this way outside of romantic contexts. There is a reason for why female characters in fiction are so much more popular than male ones even among male viewers. It's because everybody subconsciously thinks males are ugly, and so cannot relate to them. Not even other males. And more often than not the exceptions to the rule are the feminine men/pretty boys.

Even in terms of charisma, women COMPLETELY blow men out of the water. Even so called charismatic men never make me go "wow so much charm", where as there are beautiful and seductive women that absolutely radiate it in all directions.

Men as a gender are OBJECTIVELY less attractive as a whole even outside of sexual relationships. We just be fucking ugly.

 

[Gutter Goring]

Everyone is equally beautiful

 

[Deleted member 11758]

thanks squidward

 

[Deleted member 7044]

 

[Looks234]

1. Makeup
2. Body halo

Besides that we’re equal facially

 

[turkproducer]

1. Makeup
2. Body halo

Besides that we’re equal facially

3. men’s sex drive equate to that of an abused rabid dog who hasn’t been neutered

 

[Deleted member 2632]

1. Makeup
2. Body halo

Besides that we’re equal facially

3. Women's body fat distribtuion

Women do seem to have less failos tho

 

[Deleted member 4430]

Disillusioned is just Ayn Rand, but less philosophical

 

[Looks234]

3. Women's body fat distribtuion

Women do seem to have less failos tho

And they also can pull off falios like a weak chin better than men

 

[Deleted member 2403]

Disillusioned is just Ayn Rand, but less philosophical

I see you got a new boyfriend

 

[volcelfatcel]

3. Women's body fat distribtuion

Women do seem to have less failos tho

Women have far more relaxed beauty standards vs men. Men need every thing to go right genetically and as well testosterone is rare nowadays, estrogen is plenty.

Imagine if men had proper testosterone in the womb and during development.

A good looking man aesthetically mogs a good looking female and this happens in every animal species, lions for example.

 

[volcelfatcel]

And they also can pull off falios like a weak chin better than men

Indeed their whole beauty standards are 300x times more relaxed than men, they rely less on genetical factors because makeup can hide a lot of facial flaws. Their bar to be good looking is to not be fat or deformed. Men need so much shit to be truly good looking

 

[Yliaster]

The male sex drive is just too high and makes us irrationally horny,which is why we always see women in 1080p

its only after we nut that we truly see women as they actually are.

 

[volcelfatcel]

The male sex drive is just too high and makes us irrationally horny,which is why we always see women in 1080p

its only after we nut that we truly see women as they actually are.

Ngl to you, I dont think male sex drive is as high as most people say. Female sex drive is arguably higher if she is actually into the guy, like when she lusts for him. Females just hide their sexual desire better and on top of that the men they actually get aroused for don't come often.

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

wrong

Women's Preference for Masculinity (Studies)

Do women actually prefer feminine male faces? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4261489.stm Most women like a feminized face, but those who rated themselves attractive went for the classic masculine face. But why the demand for feminine male faces? "Those men with a feminine face tend to be...

looksmax.org

credit to @Kingkellz
women desire a protector to their beauty, not someone who makes them question their own femininity. things tend to work in duality and compliment each other, yin and yang, hot and cold, and ofc male and female. prettyboys is jew propaganda

 

[Mouthbreath]

the fact that you dont think that men are a lot better looking than women shows how bluepilled you are

if you have the biggest chad and the biggest stacy of all time, the chad would mog hard in all aspects

 

[disillusioned]

the fact that you dont think that men are a lot better looking than women shows how bluepilled you are

if you have the biggest chad and the biggest stacy of all time, the chad would mog hard in all aspects

This is utter bullshit. Most "chads" aren't even able to look the way they do without steriods. Granted stacies use makeup, but that's very different from having to actually chemcially alter yourself with drugs.

 

[Mouthbreath]

This is utter bullshit. Most "chads" aren't even able to look the way they do without steriods. Granted stacies use makeup, but that's very different from having to actually chemcially alter yourself with drugs.

no its very comparable to some animals, where the man is full of colors and about 1.5times as big, and the woman is plain and grey, as you said yourself, which girl (women also only look good in a very small timeframe during their lives) looks as good as a healthy high t chad without makeup? I've never seen a single girl that looked as good as most psl models that are posted here

 

[Deleted member 12611]

ALL the races of BOTH genders prefer individuals with fairer skin tones and blue or green eyes, because those things look pretty to us.

Gingers have pale white skin and light green eyes yet are disgusting to pretty much everyone.

 

[Deleted member 12611]

There is a reason for why female characters in fiction are so much more popular than male ones even among male viewers. It's because everybody subconsciously thinks males are ugly, and so cannot relate to them. Not even other males. And more often than not the exceptions to the rule are the feminine men/pretty boys.

Obviously false. It is primarily masculine male leads that have been worshipped in fiction all throughout history.

 

[Deleted member 1338]

women mog men to suicide, most men i see look disgusting balding, bloated subhumans, shit skin genetics, shit harmony.

women at least take care of their skin and don't go bald, also feminine features are pleasant to look at.

 

[Deleted member 12611]

Even in terms of charisma, women COMPLETELY blow men out of the water. Even so called charismatic men never make me go "wow so much charm", where as there are beautiful and seductive women that absolutely radiate it in all directions.

Nigga this is just bateman's principle in action.

 

[thecel]

1. Makeup
2. Body halo

Besides that we’re equal facially

Without makeup, we’re equal in “aesthetic quality”

But women are far more sexually attractive than men of equal aesthetic quality:

 

[chaddyboi66]

I'm not even just talking about the 80/20 rule or things related to sex. I just mean IN GENERAL. Compared to females the male aesthetic is just crude, inelegant, and ugly.

There are objective, scientific reasons why humans find some things attractive and other things less so. Skin color is a great example. ALL the races of BOTH genders prefer individuals with fairer skin tones and blue or green eyes, because those things look pretty to us.

Same principles apply to aesthetic design.

There is a reason for why harsh, angular and brutalistic architecture is so commonly featured in dystopian science fiction for example: It's because those are the traits that humans sub-consciously associate with crude and inelegant design. Just like humans are naturally drawn toward bright colors, they are also naturally drawn toward smooth elegant shapes.

Feminine and beautiful: Smooth curves, elegant, pretty etc.
Masculine and ugly: Harsh, crude, angular, ugly etc.

Which is why this:

Is considered prettier than this:

Now with that in mind, ask yourself, why is that that women now seem to worship so called 'pretty boys' these days? It's because despite what most of the 'alpha male' copers believe, WOMEN DON'T WANT BRUTISH MEN. Oh sure, they want them to be strong, tall etc. But in terms of facial aesthetics, they want men that LOOK FEMININE.

Even MOST MEN feel this way outside of romantic contexts. There is a reason for why female characters in fiction are so much more popular than male ones even among male viewers. It's because everybody subconsciously thinks males are ugly, and so cannot relate to them. Not even other males. And more often than not the exceptions to the rule are the feminine men/pretty boys.

Even in terms of charisma, women COMPLETELY blow men out of the water. Even so called charismatic men never make me go "wow so much charm", where as there are beautiful and seductive women that absolutely radiate it in all directions.

Men as a gender are OBJECTIVELY less attractive as a whole even outside of sexual relationships. We just be fucking ugly.

Both styles are ugly and gay tbh

Nothing really moggs this -

 

[Sviken]

Women are far uglier than men are on average (without makeup, of course). The hottest women look like subhumans next to the hottest men without makeup.

 

[darkness97]

masculinity is a preffered trait depending on where you are on the planet. if you live somewhere where violence is more prevelant then more masculine traits are preferred. pretty boys can't really defend women and are too fem for relationships. in modern society where there is no danger then women gravitate to shiny pretty things

 

[Deleted member 12234]

Men naturally look better than women. Compare 20 women without makeup and body modifications to guys and you'll see what I mean (no homo tho). Most women are pretty terrible looking without body modifications! Even body wise, men look better. There are subreddits that let you see people's natural bodies and the men typically look better than the women. The only reason we're so deluded is because we see only the pretty girls with the body modifications in your feeds lol. Go on tiktok or instagram and all the natural, ugly chicks get drowned out (which make up the majority of women).

 

[Deleted member 12234]

Women are far uglier than men are on average (without makeup, of course). The hottest women look like subhumans next to the hottest men without makeup.

Yep. I even had a female friend admit this, that men naturally look better than women. We're just deluded because we're used to seeing women with makeup and body modifications.

 

[Gazzamogga]

average lean man is more attractive than average lean woman without makeup

no homo

 

[Deleted member 2214]

Aside from things like make-up frauding I mostly agree.

Masculinity is disposable. That's literally why most men exist.

I think the benefit of being a cutecel is that it's sort of expected for u to appear lesser (at least facially) when around most guys, so the mog isn't as brutal when it happens.

Regardless this lifefuel OP ngl, looks like I won't have to steal roids anytime soon.

 

[Deleted member 275]

average lean man is more attractive than average lean woman without makeup

no homo

A skinny male body without muscle is unattractive. A skinny female body with 0 muscle is attractive.

If you are a skinny woman you are automatically atleast average. Decent tits/ass on top of that, already above average. And that's regardless of face.

 

[MostGLSlayer]

Women want men with the right combination of masculinity and femininity features. Pretty boys have pretty features that could look good on a girl but also have masculine dimorphism for sex appeal.

 

[Gazzamogga]

A skinny male body without muscle is unattractive. A skinny female body with 0 muscle is attractive.

If you are a skinny woman you are automatically atleast average. Decent tits/ass on top of that, already above average. And that's regardless of face.

i meant face wise

 

[Deleted member 12344]

Gingers have pale white skin and light green eyes yet are disgusting to pretty much everyone.

He is right tho ginger hair isnt preffered because more testerone means darker hair in many species (like lions) very based thread man your arguements are total shit tbh

 

[Deleted member 275]

i meant face wise

Allright, but women show off their bodies a lot, especially during summer. All girls are wearing crop-tops, short pants, tight clothing, showing cleavage, etc. It adds a lot to their attractiveness, while men can't do the same.

 

[Deleted member 12611]

He is right tho ginger hair isnt preffered because more testerone means darker hair in many species (like lions) very based thread man your arguements are total shit tbh

Then blonde wouldn't be rated over ginger for men you retarded dog.

In fact, ginger would be rated as one of the best hair colours because of these secondary features which are apparently "objectively" beautiful.

But THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT JFL. THEY ARE BULLIED FOR BEING SUBHUMAN.

Since the conclusion is absurd, therefore the premises are absurd, therefore OP is wrong.

My arguments are only shit to you because you are retarded.

 

[JawGuyFatFaceGuy]

I'm not even just talking about the 80/20 rule or things related to sex. I just mean IN GENERAL. Compared to females the male aesthetic is just crude, inelegant, and ugly.

There are objective, scientific reasons why humans find some things attractive and other things less so. Skin color is a great example. ALL the races of BOTH genders prefer individuals with fairer skin tones and blue or green eyes, because those things look pretty to us.

Same principles apply to aesthetic design.

There is a reason for why harsh, angular and brutalistic architecture is so commonly featured in dystopian science fiction for example: It's because those are the traits that humans sub-consciously associate with crude and inelegant design. Just like humans are naturally drawn toward bright colors, they are also naturally drawn toward smooth elegant shapes.

Feminine and beautiful: Smooth curves, elegant, pretty etc.
Masculine and ugly: Harsh, crude, angular, ugly etc.

Which is why this:

Is considered prettier than this:

Now with that in mind, ask yourself, why is that that women now seem to worship so called 'pretty boys' these days? It's because despite what most of the 'alpha male' copers believe, WOMEN DON'T WANT BRUTISH MEN. Oh sure, they want them to be strong, tall etc. But in terms of facial aesthetics, they want men that LOOK FEMININE.

Even MOST MEN feel this way outside of romantic contexts. There is a reason for why female characters in fiction are so much more popular than male ones even among male viewers. It's because everybody subconsciously thinks males are ugly, and so cannot relate to them. Not even other males. And more often than not the exceptions to the rule are the feminine men/pretty boys.

Even in terms of charisma, women COMPLETELY blow men out of the water. Even so called charismatic men never make me go "wow so much charm", where as there are beautiful and seductive women that absolutely radiate it in all directions.

Men as a gender are OBJECTIVELY less attractive as a whole even outside of sexual relationships. We just be fucking ugly.

Tell that to me again once you compare a female that has her hair shaven off and compare it to a man who has shaved it off and see the difference „in beauty“ females without hair look

 

[Deleted member 12611]

But in terms of facial aesthetics, they want men that LOOK FEMININE.

Gigacope, @SubhumanCurrycel has already made a thread that pretty boys aren't feminine. So called "prettyboys" are more dimorphic than the average man.

There is a reason for why harsh, angular and brutalistic architecture is so commonly featured in dystopian science fiction for example: It's because those are the traits that humans sub-consciously associate with crude and inelegant design.

No, it's because brutalistic architecture is intentionally minimalistic and worn down, so obviously dystopian and post-apocalyptic (these genres usually intersect) movies will use that type of architecture.

 

[RichmondBread]

Then why do sites like this exist? This would be all more proof that looks do not matter for men as they do for women.

 

[Deleted member 9467]

elegant = low prenatal t

 

[weallburninhell]

I'm not even just talking about the 80/20 rule or things related to sex. I just mean IN GENERAL. Compared to females the male aesthetic is just crude, inelegant, and ugly.

There are objective, scientific reasons why humans find some things attractive and other things less so. Skin color is a great example. ALL the races of BOTH genders prefer individuals with fairer skin tones and blue or green eyes, because those things look pretty to us.

Same principles apply to aesthetic design.

There is a reason for why harsh, angular and brutalistic architecture is so commonly featured in dystopian science fiction for example: It's because those are the traits that humans sub-consciously associate with crude and inelegant design. Just like humans are naturally drawn toward bright colors, they are also naturally drawn toward smooth elegant shapes.

Feminine and beautiful: Smooth curves, elegant, pretty etc.
Masculine and ugly: Harsh, crude, angular, ugly etc.

Which is why this:

Is considered prettier than this:

Now with that in mind, ask yourself, why is that that women now seem to worship so called 'pretty boys' these days? It's because despite what most of the 'alpha male' copers believe, WOMEN DON'T WANT BRUTISH MEN. Oh sure, they want them to be strong, tall etc. But in terms of facial aesthetics, they want men that LOOK FEMININE.

Even MOST MEN feel this way outside of romantic contexts. There is a reason for why female characters in fiction are so much more popular than male ones even among male viewers. It's because everybody subconsciously thinks males are ugly, and so cannot relate to them. Not even other males. And more often than not the exceptions to the rule are the feminine men/pretty boys.

Even in terms of charisma, women COMPLETELY blow men out of the water. Even so called charismatic men never make me go "wow so much charm", where as there are beautiful and seductive women that absolutely radiate it in all directions.

Men as a gender are OBJECTIVELY less attractive as a whole even outside of sexual relationships. We just be fucking ugly.

u proving pretty boys over masculine?

 

[weallburninhell]

elegant = low prenatal t

i have .85 digit ratio and im prettier than ur mom, elegant = beauty = fwhr is cope

 

[eyearea]

I'm not even just talking about the 80/20 rule or things related to sex. I just mean IN GENERAL. Compared to females the male aesthetic is just crude, inelegant, and ugly.

There are objective, scientific reasons why humans find some things attractive and other things less so. Skin color is a great example. ALL the races of BOTH genders prefer individuals with fairer skin tones and blue or green eyes, because those things look pretty to us.

Same principles apply to aesthetic design.

There is a reason for why harsh, angular and brutalistic architecture is so commonly featured in dystopian science fiction for example: It's because those are the traits that humans sub-consciously associate with crude and inelegant design. Just like humans are naturally drawn toward bright colors, they are also naturally drawn toward smooth elegant shapes.

Feminine and beautiful: Smooth curves, elegant, pretty etc.
Masculine and ugly: Harsh, crude, angular, ugly etc.

Which is why this:

Is considered prettier than this:

Now with that in mind, ask yourself, why is that that women now seem to worship so called 'pretty boys' these days? It's because despite what most of the 'alpha male' copers believe, WOMEN DON'T WANT BRUTISH MEN. Oh sure, they want them to be strong, tall etc. But in terms of facial aesthetics, they want men that LOOK FEMININE.

Even MOST MEN feel this way outside of romantic contexts. There is a reason for why female characters in fiction are so much more popular than male ones even among male viewers. It's because everybody subconsciously thinks males are ugly, and so cannot relate to them. Not even other males. And more often than not the exceptions to the rule are the feminine men/pretty boys.

Even in terms of charisma, women COMPLETELY blow men out of the water. Even so called charismatic men never make me go "wow so much charm", where as there are beautiful and seductive women that absolutely radiate it in all directions.

Men as a gender are OBJECTIVELY less attractive as a whole even outside of sexual relationships. We just be fucking ugly.

Peak of autism ngl tbh

 

[antiantifa]

Women have far more relaxed beauty standards vs men. Men need every thing to go right genetically and as well testosterone is rare nowadays, estrogen is plenty.

Imagine if men had proper testosterone in the womb and during development.

A good looking man aesthetically mogs a good looking female and this happens in every animal species, lions for example.

Meh I disagree, good looking men look high estrogen and the only thing they need is no fat on their face that's the only requisite. Look at chico, nothing spectacular compared to a girl, he has a feminine face, skin, eyes and then he has a very nice lean face.

If we think guys like chico, salludon, gandy are the best, just look at top female aesthetics which blows these male models so hard.

But I mean guys are better than women at almost everything, there should be at least one thing they excel in.

 

[volcelfatcel]

Meh I disagree, good looking men look high estrogen and the only thing they need is no fat on their face that's the only requisite. Look at chico, nothing spectacular compared to a girl, he has a feminine face, skin, eyes and then he has a very nice lean face.

If we think guys like chico, salludon, gandy are the best, just look at top female aesthetics which blows these male models so hard.

But I mean guys are better than women at almost everything, there should be at least one thing they excel in.

I disagree entirely, female models are caked in makeup. Men require way less makeup even in modeling, they need everything to go right genetically.
Aesthetically speaking men need everything. Even if Lima had a recessed maxilla she'd still be a stacy but o'Pry if he had a recessed maxilla? Recessed jaw? It's over for him. Good looking men mog good looking women in aesthetics because that's how nature is.

 

[Sviken]

Meh I disagree, good looking men look high estrogen and the only thing they need is no fat on their face that's the only requisite. Look at chico, nothing spectacular compared to a girl, he has a feminine face, skin, eyes and then he has a very nice lean face.

If we think guys like chico, salludon, gandy are the best, just look at top female aesthetics which blows these male models so hard.

But I mean guys are better than women at almost everything, there should be at least one thing they excel in.

Show me a single female model that has the same facial aesthetics as Chico even caked up with makeup. This is what top-tier female models look without makeup:

They are not fit to be compared to your average male who is not an overly bloated subhuman, let alone peak of aesthetics that is Lachowski.

These

are not even remotely compatable. They're not even in the same stratosphere when it comes to facial aesthetics. Hell, baldlet Chico mogs prime non-caked up Lima to the sands of Dune and back:

Enough of this "women are equal to males" when it comes to facial aesthetics. It's retarded. Men are on average far better looking and the top looking males are on a different universe compared to their female counterparts.

 

[antiantifa]

Show me a single female model that has the same facial aesthetics as Chico even caked up with makeup. This is what top-tier female models look without makeup:
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They are not fit to be compared to your average male who is not an overly bloated subhuman, let alone peak of aesthetics that is Lachowski.

These View attachment 1166034 View attachment 1166055 are not even remotely compatable. They're not even in the same stratosphere when it comes to facial aesthetics. Hell, baldlet Chico mogs prime non-caked up Lima to the sands of Dune and back:
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Enough of this "women are equal to males" when it comes to facial aesthetics. It's retarded. Men are on average far better looking and the top looking males are on a different universe compared to their female counterparts.

"Men are on average far better looking" ur trolling, no?

 

[Mongrelcel]

Jesus christ are people on this forum really so stupid?

Men and women are absolutely equal in facial aesthetics or attractivness. It's not logically possible for either to be better.

Do women reproduce separately? Do women not have sons? If women really were better looking, then their sons would also be better looking right?
Even if we had a hypopthetical situation where all women are giga beautiful, and all men are very ugly, in a few generations they would be exactly equal anyway. The genes would be sufficiantly mixed.

The fact that you consider women to be more beaufitul just means there are other reasons like makeup, and 100 times lower standards

"Men are on average far better looking" ur trolling, no?

take a look at women without makeup, they look like prepubescent boys. 0 aetshetics.

 

[dnrd]

Jesus christ are people on this forum really so stupid?

Men and women are absolutely equal in facial aesthetics or attractivness. It's not logically possible for either to be better.

Do women reproduce separately? Do women not have sons? If women really were better looking, then their sons would also be better looking right?
Even if we had a hypopthetical situation where all women are giga beautiful, and all men are very ugly, in a few generations they would be exactly equal anyway. The genes would be sufficiantly mixed.

The fact that you consider women to be more beaufitul just means there are other reasons like makeup, and 100 times lower standards


take a look at women without makeup, they look like prepubescent boys. 0 aetshetics.

literally a 100iq point youve just made and yet you're completely correct, thanks for stating the obvious bc clearly these retards cant

 

[Deleted member 13928]

I'm not even just talking about the 80/20 rule or things related to sex. I just mean IN GENERAL. Compared to females the male aesthetic is just crude, inelegant, and ugly.

There are objective, scientific reasons why humans find some things attractive and other things less so. Skin color is a great example. ALL the races of BOTH genders prefer individuals with fairer skin tones and blue or green eyes, because those things look pretty to us.

Same principles apply to aesthetic design.

There is a reason for why harsh, angular and brutalistic architecture is so commonly featured in dystopian science fiction for example: It's because those are the traits that humans sub-consciously associate with crude and inelegant design. Just like humans are naturally drawn toward bright colors, they are also naturally drawn toward smooth elegant shapes.

Feminine and beautiful: Smooth curves, elegant, pretty etc.
Masculine and ugly: Harsh, crude, angular, ugly etc.

Which is why this:

Is considered prettier than this:

Now with that in mind, ask yourself, why is that that women now seem to worship so called 'pretty boys' these days? It's because despite what most of the 'alpha male' copers believe, WOMEN DON'T WANT BRUTISH MEN. Oh sure, they want them to be strong, tall etc. But in terms of facial aesthetics, they want men that LOOK FEMININE.

Even MOST MEN feel this way outside of romantic contexts. There is a reason for why female characters in fiction are so much more popular than male ones even among male viewers. It's because everybody subconsciously thinks males are ugly, and so cannot relate to them. Not even other males. And more often than not the exceptions to the rule are the feminine men/pretty boys.

Even in terms of charisma, women COMPLETELY blow men out of the water. Even so called charismatic men never make me go "wow so much charm", where as there are beautiful and seductive women that absolutely radiate it in all directions.

Men as a gender are OBJECTIVELY less attractive as a whole even outside of sexual relationships. We just be fucking ugly.

Simping so hard must've been so tiring