Mewing is wrong: getting to root cause

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Disclaimer: I'm not a medical professional.

There is a lot of truth about what the Mews' say, generic orthodontics are incorrect it treats teeth as it's own isolated object's that can be straightened and pulled out with no issues arising. The Mews' noticed that issue and realised that the root cause wasn't just the teeth but rather the whole bone structure of the face.

The Mew's with their new realisation created something called orthotropic's, where instead of targeting teeth as their own, they treated the whole face, using appliances to change facial structure such as expanding and pulling maxilla forward to create more space for teeth to grow.
Figure 1.0:
1762712936629

This example may not be great, but for us people who are attentive to looks we can notice that twin #2 has much more maxillary and mandible projection.
Unlike twin #1 who has a drooping face with recessed maxilla and recessed chin.


With this new discovery, they also created a new tongue posture, originally it started as holding up the tongue to the roof of the mouth and pressing it up, this later adapted into a suction hold, anyways we all know what mewing is.
Based on the Mew's analogy the tongue should be what is holding up the maxilla and you not practicing consistent mewing is the root cause of recessed/badly projected maxilla and mandible.
Now based on this analogy of mewing let's try a little experiment, go into your perfect mew posture, whatever it is for you, now tilt your head upward and stop mewing (let your tongue fall from that suction hold), did your head drop? I assume it didn't, maybe thats because there is other muscles that hold the maxilla up? we'll explore this more later.

Adding on top of this your tongue holds your maxilla up, a lot of us in this space also raise the hyoid bone to have a sharper jaw, with this raises a new issue, The Larynx. The Larynx function is to close off airways and opening the esophagus when swallowing, practicing this long term will not only will this cause hard of breathing but also can cause digestion issues.

Anyway's this isn't the main point, Mew's also explain that forward head posture is another root issue of recessed face, as a fix they advise chin-tucks, but why would you want to pull your head back if you want to move your maxilla forward and up?
On top of this when we actually get into what forward head posture is, the name isn't even a correct analogy, if we looked at someone with "forward head posture" (Figure 1.1) we can see that their head is actually back relative to the rest of the body, this would be more accurately described as "forward midsection posture."
(To be clear postural problems don't stem from one section of the body)
If your head had to be out of place, your midsection/body will also have to be out of place to compensate, in reality its the torso being bent and shortened that causes the displacement of the head.
Figure 1.1:
1762714685250

Simply put the modern day 'correct' posture, isn't correct. The face isn't the only thing drooping, it's the whole body.

Now the question arise's, so how are people getting results from mewing?
The answer is simple, you are consciously pushing the maxilla up with your tongue, this is much more effective than not doing anything with your tongue.
However choosing to only use the tongue completely neglects the rest of your musculature and fascia that that should be keeping the maxilla up.
I know that mew's focus on the face, and they did partially fix a genuine issue, however they didn't address the full issue.


Okay okay, how do I fix this?
It's not that simple, I will provide some steps but if you want a deeper/more correct explanation I recommend looking into the Alexander Technique/posture.

1. Head posture
• Head balanced lightly on top of the spine
• Neck free to allow the head to move forward and up
• Goal: head poised so the ears align roughly over the shoulders

2. Neck alignment
• Neck elongated upward and slightly forward
• Avoid compressing or tightening the throat or jaw
• Goal: maintain freedom of movement between head and torso

3. Back alignment
• Spine lengthened and gently curved in its natural shape
• Chest neither thrust out nor collapsed
• Goal: back expands and widens to support upright balance

4. Shoulder position
• Shoulders released down and slightly back without tension
• Avoid rounding forward or pulling back rigidly
• Goal: freedom of arm and upper body movement

5. Pelvic and hip alignment
• Pelvis balanced over the legs, not tilted forward or backward
• Allow lower back to retain natural curve
• Goal: support from the center without stiffness

6. Leg alignment
• Knees soft, not locked or bent excessively
• Weight distributed evenly through both feet
• Goal: legs provide stable, flexible support for the body

7. Foot placement
• Feet hip-width apart, pointing forward or slightly outward
• Arches lifted but relaxed
• Goal: connection to the ground without gripping or collapse

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Overall, mewing isn't wrong, but its incomplete. You should get to the root cause rather than incomplete fix.
Also changing your posture and mewing wont suddenly make you ascend, but following good posture will help over time (health and aesthetics).
"it's all cope bro 🤦‍♂️"
Thanks for reading!
 

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dnr shit thread ai too :feelskek:
 
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Dnr, mewing mogs
 
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suprisingly it passed multiple AI detectors, although most of them said it was mixed/paraphrased

either way, shit thread
I think he wrote some then used ai on some of the harder parts
this thread should be deleted :feelskek:
 
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suprisingly it passed multiple AI detectors, although most of them said it was mixed/paraphrased

either way, shit thread
passed bc its not ai + its logic, js cuz u disagree dont mean its bs
if u read the thread i lit said mewing isnt bad, but its not the full picture
 
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passed bc its not ai + its logic, js cuz u disagree dont mean its bs
if u read the thread i lit said mewing isnt bad, but its not the full picture
no its bs
 
Bro there has to be a case study done on the amount of grey accounts that join for like 2 weeks and then post these fucking essays
“Why you need to jerk off at least 6 times per day”
And then it’s like the most analytical fucking post with multiple studies and articles linked with graphs and everything bro I see this everyday.
 
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There is a lot of truth about what the Mews' say, generic orthodontics are incorrect it treats teeth as it's own isolated object's that can be straightened and pulled out with no issues arising. The Mews' noticed that issue and realised that the root cause wasn't just the teeth but rather the whole bone structure of the face.
The Mew's with their new realisation created something called orthotropic's, where instead of targeting teeth as their own, they treated the whole face, using appliances to change facial structure such as expanding and pulling maxilla forward to create more space for teeth to grow.
Figure 1.0:
1762712936629

This example may not be great, but for us people who are attentive to looks we can notice that twin #2 has much more maxillary and mandible projection.
Unlike twin #1 who has a drooping face with recessed maxilla and recessed chin.


With this new discovery, they also created a new tongue posture, originally it started as holding up the tongue to the roof of the mouth and pressing it up, this later adapted into a suction hold, anyways we all know what mewing is.
Based on the Mew's analogy the tongue should be what is holding up the maxilla and you not practicing consistent mewing is the root cause of recessed/badly projected maxilla and mandible.
Now based on this analogy of mewing let's try a little experiment, go into your perfect mew posture, whatever it is for you, now tilt your head upward and stop mewing (let your tongue fall from that suction hold), did your head drop? I assume it didn't, maybe thats because there is other muscles that hold the maxilla up? we'll explore this more later.

Adding on top of this your tongue holds your maxilla up, a lot of us in this space also raise the hyoid bone to have a sharper jaw, with this raises a new issue, The Larynx. The Larynx function is to close off airways and opening the esophagus when swallowing, practicing this long term will not only will this cause hard of breathing but also can cause digestion issues.

Anyway's this isn't the main point, Mew's also explain that forward head posture is another root issue of recessed face, as a fix they advise chin-tucks, but why would you want to pull your head back if you want to move your maxilla forward and up?
On top of this when we actually get into what forward head posture is, the name isn't even a correct analogy, if we looked at someone with "forward head posture" (Figure 1.1) we can see that their head is actually back relative to the rest of the body, this would be more accurately described as "forward midsection posture."
(To be clear postural problems don't stem from one section of the body)
If your head had to be out of place, your midsection/body will also have to be out of place to compensate, in reality its the torso being bent and shortened that causes the displacement of the head.
Figure 1.1:
1762714685250

Simply put the modern day 'correct' posture, isn't correct. The face isn't the only thing drooping, it's the whole body.

Now the question arise's, so how are people getting results from mewing?
The answer is simple, you are consciously pushing the maxilla up with your tongue, this is much more effective than not doing anything with your tongue.
However choosing to only use the tongue completely neglects the rest of your musculature and fascia that that should be keeping the maxilla up.
I know that mew's focus on the face, and they did partially fix a genuine issue, however they didn't address the full issue.


Okay okay, how do I fix this?
It's not that simple, I will provide some steps but if you want a deeper/more correct explanation I recommend looking into the Alexander Technique/posture.

1. Head posture
• Head balanced lightly on top of the spine
• Neck free to allow the head to move forward and up
• Goal: head poised so the ears align roughly over the shoulders

2. Neck alignment
• Neck elongated upward and slightly forward
• Avoid compressing or tightening the throat or jaw
• Goal: maintain freedom of movement between head and torso

3. Back alignment
• Spine lengthened and gently curved in its natural shape
• Chest neither thrust out nor collapsed
• Goal: back expands and widens to support upright balance

4. Shoulder position
• Shoulders released down and slightly back without tension
• Avoid rounding forward or pulling back rigidly
• Goal: freedom of arm and upper body movement

5. Pelvic and hip alignment
• Pelvis balanced over the legs, not tilted forward or backward
• Allow lower back to retain natural curve
• Goal: support from the center without stiffness

6. Leg alignment
• Knees soft, not locked or bent excessively
• Weight distributed evenly through both feet
• Goal: legs provide stable, flexible support for the body

7. Foot placement
• Feet hip-width apart, pointing forward or slightly outward
• Arches lifted but relaxed
• Goal: connection to the ground without gripping or collapse

Screenshot 2025 11 09 at 180555

Screenshot 2025 11 09 at 192431




Overall, mewing isn't wrong, but its incomplete. You should get to the root cause rather than incomplete fix.
Also changing your posture and mewing wont suddenly make you ascend, but following good posture will help over time (health and aesthetics).
"it's all cope bro 🤦‍♂️"
Thanks for reading!
 
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Bro there has to be a case study done on the amount of grey accounts that join for like 2 weeks and then post these fucking essays
“Why you need to jerk off at least 6 times per day”
And then it’s like the most analytical fucking post with multiple studies and articles linked with graphs and everything bro I see this everyday.
im tryna gain some rep, but im js getting hate (pls rep)
 
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Removed teeth is root cause for recession
 
Removed teeth is root cause for recession
Well that’s with orthodontics, I meant fixing before any of that. TBH posture won’t do much but it’ll help just as much as mewing can help.
Earlier you begin the better.
 
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the thread looks like its not AI and definitely not water either, the op sounds reasonable based on the thread formatting and responses
but its copy pasted from this dudes youtube videos (which is fine too):


the actual issue here is that the method itself has no practical value (the theory is weak too tbh) for increasing forward growth and facial bone structure optimization
 
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the thread looks like its not AI and definitely not water either, the op sounds reasonable based on the thread formatting and responses
but its copy pasted from this dudes youtube videos (which is fine too):


the actual issue here is that the method itself has no practical value (the theory is weak too tbh) for increasing forward growth and facial bone structure optimization

I concluded multiple videos into one mainly the one you linked (I should’ve linked the videos, will do next time) Yeah the theory is sort of weak, but that’s why I said at the end it won’t ascend but rather support overall health, but also can help aesthetics very gradually over long period of time
 
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Disclaimer: I'm not a medical professional.

There is a lot of truth about what the Mews' say, generic orthodontics are incorrect it treats teeth as it's own isolated object's that can be straightened and pulled out with no issues arising. The Mews' noticed that issue and realised that the root cause wasn't just the teeth but rather the whole bone structure of the face.

The Mew's with their new realisation created something called orthotropic's, where instead of targeting teeth as their own, they treated the whole face, using appliances to change facial structure such as expanding and pulling maxilla forward to create more space for teeth to grow.
Figure 1.0:
View attachment 4306744
This example may not be great, but for us people who are attentive to looks we can notice that twin #2 has much more maxillary and mandible projection.
Unlike twin #1 who has a drooping face with recessed maxilla and recessed chin.


With this new discovery, they also created a new tongue posture, originally it started as holding up the tongue to the roof of the mouth and pressing it up, this later adapted into a suction hold, anyways we all know what mewing is.
Based on the Mew's analogy the tongue should be what is holding up the maxilla and you not practicing consistent mewing is the root cause of recessed/badly projected maxilla and mandible.
Now based on this analogy of mewing let's try a little experiment, go into your perfect mew posture, whatever it is for you, now tilt your head upward and stop mewing (let your tongue fall from that suction hold), did your head drop? I assume it didn't, maybe thats because there is other muscles that hold the maxilla up? we'll explore this more later.

Adding on top of this your tongue holds your maxilla up, a lot of us in this space also raise the hyoid bone to have a sharper jaw, with this raises a new issue, The Larynx. The Larynx function is to close off airways and opening the esophagus when swallowing, practicing this long term will not only will this cause hard of breathing but also can cause digestion issues.

Anyway's this isn't the main point, Mew's also explain that forward head posture is another root issue of recessed face, as a fix they advise chin-tucks, but why would you want to pull your head back if you want to move your maxilla forward and up?
On top of this when we actually get into what forward head posture is, the name isn't even a correct analogy, if we looked at someone with "forward head posture" (Figure 1.1) we can see that their head is actually back relative to the rest of the body, this would be more accurately described as "forward midsection posture."
(To be clear postural problems don't stem from one section of the body)
If your head had to be out of place, your midsection/body will also have to be out of place to compensate, in reality its the torso being bent and shortened that causes the displacement of the head.
Figure 1.1:
View attachment 4306837
Simply put the modern day 'correct' posture, isn't correct. The face isn't the only thing drooping, it's the whole body.

Now the question arise's, so how are people getting results from mewing?
The answer is simple, you are consciously pushing the maxilla up with your tongue, this is much more effective than not doing anything with your tongue.
However choosing to only use the tongue completely neglects the rest of your musculature and fascia that that should be keeping the maxilla up.
I know that mew's focus on the face, and they did partially fix a genuine issue, however they didn't address the full issue.


Okay okay, how do I fix this?
It's not that simple, I will provide some steps but if you want a deeper/more correct explanation I recommend looking into the Alexander Technique/posture.

1. Head posture
• Head balanced lightly on top of the spine
• Neck free to allow the head to move forward and up
• Goal: head poised so the ears align roughly over the shoulders

2. Neck alignment
• Neck elongated upward and slightly forward
• Avoid compressing or tightening the throat or jaw
• Goal: maintain freedom of movement between head and torso

3. Back alignment
• Spine lengthened and gently curved in its natural shape
• Chest neither thrust out nor collapsed
• Goal: back expands and widens to support upright balance

4. Shoulder position
• Shoulders released down and slightly back without tension
• Avoid rounding forward or pulling back rigidly
• Goal: freedom of arm and upper body movement

5. Pelvic and hip alignment
• Pelvis balanced over the legs, not tilted forward or backward
• Allow lower back to retain natural curve
• Goal: support from the center without stiffness

6. Leg alignment
• Knees soft, not locked or bent excessively
• Weight distributed evenly through both feet
• Goal: legs provide stable, flexible support for the body

7. Foot placement
• Feet hip-width apart, pointing forward or slightly outward
• Arches lifted but relaxed
• Goal: connection to the ground without gripping or collapse

View attachment 4306949View attachment 4306955



Overall, mewing isn't wrong, but its incomplete. You should get to the root cause rather than incomplete fix.
Also changing your posture and mewing wont suddenly make you ascend, but following good posture will help over time (health and aesthetics).
"it's all cope bro 🤦‍♂️"
Thanks for reading!
Always MEW!!!!!!!!!!
 
just mew nigga it raises ur hyoid while u do it if ur not a fatass
 
Disclaimer: I'm not a medical professional.

There is a lot of truth about what the Mews' say, generic orthodontics are incorrect it treats teeth as it's own isolated object's that can be straightened and pulled out with no issues arising. The Mews' noticed that issue and realised that the root cause wasn't just the teeth but rather the whole bone structure of the face.

The Mew's with their new realisation created something called orthotropic's, where instead of targeting teeth as their own, they treated the whole face, using appliances to change facial structure such as expanding and pulling maxilla forward to create more space for teeth to grow.
Figure 1.0:
View attachment 4306744
This example may not be great, but for us people who are attentive to looks we can notice that twin #2 has much more maxillary and mandible projection.
Unlike twin #1 who has a drooping face with recessed maxilla and recessed chin.


With this new discovery, they also created a new tongue posture, originally it started as holding up the tongue to the roof of the mouth and pressing it up, this later adapted into a suction hold, anyways we all know what mewing is.
Based on the Mew's analogy the tongue should be what is holding up the maxilla and you not practicing consistent mewing is the root cause of recessed/badly projected maxilla and mandible.
Now based on this analogy of mewing let's try a little experiment, go into your perfect mew posture, whatever it is for you, now tilt your head upward and stop mewing (let your tongue fall from that suction hold), did your head drop? I assume it didn't, maybe thats because there is other muscles that hold the maxilla up? we'll explore this more later.

Adding on top of this your tongue holds your maxilla up, a lot of us in this space also raise the hyoid bone to have a sharper jaw, with this raises a new issue, The Larynx. The Larynx function is to close off airways and opening the esophagus when swallowing, practicing this long term will not only will this cause hard of breathing but also can cause digestion issues.

Anyway's this isn't the main point, Mew's also explain that forward head posture is another root issue of recessed face, as a fix they advise chin-tucks, but why would you want to pull your head back if you want to move your maxilla forward and up?
On top of this when we actually get into what forward head posture is, the name isn't even a correct analogy, if we looked at someone with "forward head posture" (Figure 1.1) we can see that their head is actually back relative to the rest of the body, this would be more accurately described as "forward midsection posture."
(To be clear postural problems don't stem from one section of the body)
If your head had to be out of place, your midsection/body will also have to be out of place to compensate, in reality its the torso being bent and shortened that causes the displacement of the head.
Figure 1.1:
View attachment 4306837
Simply put the modern day 'correct' posture, isn't correct. The face isn't the only thing drooping, it's the whole body.

Now the question arise's, so how are people getting results from mewing?
The answer is simple, you are consciously pushing the maxilla up with your tongue, this is much more effective than not doing anything with your tongue.
However choosing to only use the tongue completely neglects the rest of your musculature and fascia that that should be keeping the maxilla up.
I know that mew's focus on the face, and they did partially fix a genuine issue, however they didn't address the full issue.


Okay okay, how do I fix this?
It's not that simple, I will provide some steps but if you want a deeper/more correct explanation I recommend looking into the Alexander Technique/posture.

1. Head posture
• Head balanced lightly on top of the spine
• Neck free to allow the head to move forward and up
• Goal: head poised so the ears align roughly over the shoulders

2. Neck alignment
• Neck elongated upward and slightly forward
• Avoid compressing or tightening the throat or jaw
• Goal: maintain freedom of movement between head and torso

3. Back alignment
• Spine lengthened and gently curved in its natural shape
• Chest neither thrust out nor collapsed
• Goal: back expands and widens to support upright balance

4. Shoulder position
• Shoulders released down and slightly back without tension
• Avoid rounding forward or pulling back rigidly
• Goal: freedom of arm and upper body movement

5. Pelvic and hip alignment
• Pelvis balanced over the legs, not tilted forward or backward
• Allow lower back to retain natural curve
• Goal: support from the center without stiffness

6. Leg alignment
• Knees soft, not locked or bent excessively
• Weight distributed evenly through both feet
• Goal: legs provide stable, flexible support for the body

7. Foot placement
• Feet hip-width apart, pointing forward or slightly outward
• Arches lifted but relaxed
• Goal: connection to the ground without gripping or collapse

View attachment 4306949View attachment 4306955



Overall, mewing isn't wrong, but its incomplete. You should get to the root cause rather than incomplete fix.
Also changing your posture and mewing wont suddenly make you ascend, but following good posture will help over time (health and aesthetics).
"it's all cope bro 🤦‍♂️"
Thanks for reading!

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