Modern Day America vs Nazi Germany ( Video )

[Deleted member 2632]

How could anyone say they prefer living in modern times

The worse things get the more Americans will be ready for a return to a Christian Empire

Nazi Germany resembles Roman Empire so much its so beautiful I hope things get much much worse soon so people will be ready for an extreme change

 

[sorrowfulsad]

we can only pray

 

[Deleted member 11292]

 

[StrangerDanger]

germany used to be so cool
but all the brave men died in the wars and now they are fucking cucks lol

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

my post from another thread

the 3rd reich style and aesthetics mogged the living shit out of everyone else, which is probably why that whole thing is still so tempting to many today. hitler had a good eye for aesthetics and it showed in their architecture, uniforms, parades and other things. but apart from that, hitler and his party were whack in many aspects. I kinda wish they weren't, because they did absolutely mog everything in terms of visuals. ngl.

you only look at the good parts, but ignore how they gassed people or violently invaded poland and killed innocent civilians

raving about an outdated political system in the current year is pure autism to begin with


having said all that, fuck censorship

 

[Deleted member 11292]

you only look at the good parts, but ignore how they gassed people or violently invaded poland and killed innocent civilians

based tbh, and they kept all of that out of their own cities and suburbs

 

[TITUS]

my post from another thread

the 3rd reich style and aesthetics mogged the living shit out of everyone else, which is probably why that whole thing is still so tempting to many today. hitler had a good eye for aesthetics and it showed in their architecture, uniforms, parades and other things. but apart from that, hitler and his party were whack in many aspects. I kinda wish they weren't, because they did absolutely mog everything in terms of visuals. ngl.

you only look at the good parts, but ignore how they gassed people or violently invaded poland and killed innocent civilians

raving about an outdated political system in the current year is pure autism to begin with


having said all that, fuck censorship
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I wish they had gassed the 6 billion jews, they just didn't.

 

[Deleted member 2632]

you only look at the good parts, but ignore how they gassed people or violently invaded poland and killed innocent civilians

Yeah how dare how the Nazis fight back agaisnt Communism that was taking over Eastern Europe and go to war agaisnt them

Poland was mistreating German people and Hitler wanted to reclaim lost territory

There were no gassings, imagine still believing this

Nothing Germany did can compare to Americans genociding Native Americans or having black slaves

raving about an outdated political system in the current year is pure autism to begin with

Its not outdated it drove out Communism and created an advanced civlization out of a collapsed Germany in a mere decade

 

[Deleted member 2729]

my post from another thread

the 3rd reich style and aesthetics mogged the living shit out of everyone else, which is probably why that whole thing is still so tempting to many today. hitler had a good eye for aesthetics and it showed in their architecture, uniforms, parades and other things. but apart from that, hitler and his party were whack in many aspects. I kinda wish they weren't, because they did absolutely mog everything in terms of visuals. ngl.

you only look at the good parts, but ignore how they gassed people or violently invaded poland and killed innocent civilians

raving about an outdated political system in the current year is pure autism to begin with


having said all that, fuck censorship
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Imagine being blackpilled but then you believe everything they taught you in history lessons

 

[Deleted member 2632]

Imagine being blackpilled but then you believe everything they taught you in history lessons

Blackpillers be like >

" Everything they told you about women is false, here is the true nature of women, take the blackpill "

Me > " Also Nazi Germany..... "

Blackpiller >

" Reeeeee dont you remember what they taught about gassings and the Holocaust Movies it was real and it happened !!!! "

 

[Deleted member 2729]

Blackpillers be like >

" Everything they told you about women is false, here is the true nature of women, take the blackpill "

Me > " Also Nazi Germany..... "

Blackpiller >

" Reeeeee dont you remember what they taught about gassings and the Holocaust Movies it was real and it happened !!!! "

Unironically be like that jfl

 

[goat2x]

BUMP

 

[Deleted member 9819]

nazis were better but both are bad

 

[Deleted member 13511]

I just finished watching Europa the last battle after 1 week and I have to say, I prefer globalism to nationalism. Why would I want individual nations when I could conquer the whole world? I would rather be Genghis Khan than Hitler, also it would be hypocritical if I claimed to be against race mixing.

 

[shrek]

How could anyone say they prefer living in modern times

The worse things get the more Americans will be ready for a return to a Christian Empire

Nazi Germany resembles Roman Empire so much its so beautiful I hope things get much much worse soon so people will be ready for an extreme change

That video gave me goosebumps. Holy shit.
SIEG HEIL! I LOVE BEING WHITE!

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

Yeah how dare how the Nazis fight back agaisnt Communism that was taking over Eastern Europe and go to war agaisnt them

Poland was mistreating German people and Hitler wanted to reclaim lost territory

There were no gassings, imagine still believing this

Nothing Germany did can compare to Americans genociding Native Americans or having black slaves

Its not outdated it drove out Communism and created an advanced civlization out of a collapsed Germany in a mere decade

jfl @ people who justify a violent invasion with firing squads against against civilians of a country that displayed pretty much no threat at that time.

Operation Tannenberg - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

NS views on slavs and eastern europe were generally retarded. look at them now. poland is the most based country in europe while the west is cucked to the max. we should have practiced better relations with them long ago.

also quite interesting how you go on and on about the joos 24/7, pretty much ready to reopen the gas chambers, but whenever someone mentions gassings you say it's fabricated bullshit lol.

you make it sound like national socialist germany was the perfect government and did no wrong, but in the end they still failed. and now you're here 100 years later reminiscing about a 20th century political system in a world that's vastly different. completely pointless.

and the national socialists of today aren't even moggers like those from back then. most of them are retarded hooligan larpers. jfl.

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

Imagine being blackpilled but then you believe everything they taught you in history lessons

I paid little attention to those, I draw my own conclusions

 

[Deleted member 2632]

jfl @ people who justify a violent invasion with firing squads against against civilians of a country that displayed pretty much no threat at that time.

Poland was mistreating German civilians, ca it what you like but Germany had to prepare for agaisnt Communism and the Soviet Union, I dont know how many massacres happened at the hands of Germans, Im guessing very few, but the Soviets committed mass atrocities toward the Poles both during and LONG LONG after the war

Look up Katyn Forest Massacre committed by the Soviets

Operation Tannenberg - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

NS views on slavs were generally retarded. look at them now. poland is the most based country in europe while the west is cucked to the max. we should have practiced better relations with them long ago.

Yeah no shit Germans were beaten into submission at the end of WWII, most of the best Germans dead and the remaining alive were treated ruthlessly

also quite interesting how you go on and on about the joos 24/7, pretty much ready to reopen the gas chambers, but whenever someone mentions gassings you say it's fabricated bullshit lol.

Because it didnt fucking happen

If the 6 million Jews were gassed they wouldn't be in control of the World now would they as that would have been about half their population.

you make it sound like national socialist germany was the perfect government and did no wrong, but in the end they still failed. and now you're here 100 years later reminiscing about a 20th century political system in a world that's vastly different. completely pointless.

and the national socialists of today aren't even moggers like those from back then. most of them are retarded hooligan larpers. jfl.

I dont believe ANY system of goverment is perfect but it goes without saying they were the best form of goverment after America was conquered by the Jewish elite with the installation of the Federal Reserve System in 1913

 

[Deleted member 10987]

I just finished watching Europa the last battle after 1 week and I have to say, I prefer globalism to nationalism. Why would I want individual nations when I could conquer the whole world? I would rather be Genghis Khan than Hitler, also it would be hypocritical if I claimed to be against race mixing.

Cuck

 

[Deleted member 13511]

Cuck

Asian men are cucks.

 

[Deleted member 10987]

Asian men are cucks.

Yes but you are too if you want globalisation

 

[Deleted member 13511]

Yes but you are too if you want globalisation

I mean I want to conquer the world, maybe globalisation was the wrong word because I hate all kikes.

 

[Deleted member 2632]

I mean I want to conquer the world, maybe globalisation was the wrong word because I hate all kikes.

No need to conquer the world. Europeans already dominated so much of the Global Surface, might as well kick all Non-Whites out of our nations and build ourselves up militarily to where no nation could ever threaten us

 

[Deleted member 13511]

No need to conquer the world. Europeans already dominated so much of the Global Surface, might as well kick all Non-Whites out of our nations and build ourselves up militarily to where no nation could ever threaten us

What I want to do is unite the entire world under the flag of Nazi Germany and make Adolf proud.

 

[Deleted member 2632]

What I want to do is unite the entire world under the flag of Nazi Germany and make Adolf proud.
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I dont think we will have to wait much longer

Soon the Communists Parties BLACK LIVES MATTER and ANTIFA will make a comeback along with the 2nd release of the Corona Virus

People will get desperate, we must hurry to use this oppurtunity for a movement in our direction

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

What I want to do is unite the entire world under the flag of Nazi Germany and make Adolf proud.
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that's a fake quote

 

[Deleted member 13511]

I dont think we will have to wait much longer

Soon the Communists Parties BLACK LIVES MATTER and ANTIFA will make a comeback along with the 2nd release of the Corona Virus

People will get desperate, we must hurry to use this oppurtunity for a movement in our direction

It's too late, everyone who has taken the covid 'vaccine' is doomed and when the population reaches 500 million the kikes will establish new world order. Their plan is to do it by 2030.

 

[Deleted member 2632]

It's too late, everyone who has taken the covid 'vaccine' is doomed and when the population reaches 500 million the kikes will establish new world order. Their plan is to do it by 2030.

False, if people die en masse then a revolution can start, the military can be persuaded to join us

 

[Deleted member 13511]

False, if people die en masse then a revolution can start, the military can be persuaded to join us

They won't die en masse they will die over the next few years because their immune systems are compromised by experimental gene therapy.

 

[Deleted member 2632]

That video gave me goosebumps. Holy shit.
SIEG HEIL! I LOVE BEING WHITE!

Hitler did not rise up while Germany was strong. He was a crippled war veteran with 2 assassination attempts on his life and arrested and sent to prison , while Germany was in shambles from economic collapse and subverted by Jews and Communists

The struggle will make the glory greater

 

[ShowerMaxxing]

Not really, if anything modern US resembles Ancient Rome. Degeneracy is promoted, same sex intimacy, promiscuity etc. That's why Christianity came in place to remove that society in Rome.

If anything Nazi Germany holds similarities to Sparta, Greece. Likely cus wanted to form strong armies like those of the past. This article goes in depth about stark similarities between the two.

To what extent was Hitler's rule of Nazi Germany similar to life in Sparta?

To what extent was Hitler's rule of Nazi Germany similar to life in Sparta?

www.academia.edu

They both believe in a superior race had factions for training youth. Nazi youth vs Agoge, men/women had separate roles, genetic dead ends or those unable to contribute were cut off, minorities were treated as second class jews and helots.

 

[Deleted member 10913]

Both conventional wars started by Germans was a mistake. The second being bigger then the first. I am glad Turkey didn't join this second foolish attempt. Every German of the general staff recognized the suicide that is a conventional war. Thinking it would turn out in favor is a joke let alone trying it for the second time.

Thinking that this could work out just fine is something you would tell someone in the first of April.

Now tell me what's diffrence would change the tide? Because there is no difference matter of fact it's worse. Japan didn't shoot a single bullet to the Soviets for 4 years. They dragged the USA to war and got nuked twice. Germans froze to death in Russia and months later Berlin fell down. What good did this bring?

To add on this the whole succes of communism was done by German intelligence sending Lenin to Russia. The failure done in the second world war pushed communism even further to Europe not outside Europe jfl.

If anything Facism was the worst ideology out of the 3. Anyone here should come to terms with this. Seeing yourself superior then the rest directly puts you at odds with the rest. What good would this even bring. It died so did communism.

 

[WadlowMaxxing]

Both conventional wars started by Germans was a mistake. The second being bigger then the first. I am glad Turkey didn't join this second foolish attempt. Every German of the general staff recognized the suicide that is a conventional war. Thinking it would turn out in favor is a joke let alone trying it for the second time.


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Thinking that this could work out just fine is something you would tell someone in the first of April.

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Now tell me what's diffrence would change the tide? Because there is no difference matter of fact it's worse. Japan didn't shoot a single bullet to the Soviets for 4 years. They dragged the USA to war and got nuked twice.

To add on this the whole succes of communism was done by German intelligence sending Lenin to Russia. The failure done in the second world war pushed communism even further to Europe not outside Europe jfl.

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If anything Facism was the worst ideology out of the 3. Anyone here should come to terms with this. Seeing yourself superior then the rest directly puts you at odds with the rest. What good would this even bring. It died so did communism.

neither world war was out of German aggression, no reasonable cause can be found for the start of WW2, it was a conspiracy among nations to bring down the Kaiser and Habsburg thrones. Germany was winning WW1, not a single shot fired on German soil for most of the war. they had offered peace, no reparations or annexations, things would go back to how'd they been. Britain and France refused and the rest of the story is a whole other discussion. Bolshevism was a Zionist invention, they may have sent Lenin to help facilitate a revolution but the minds behind it were Jews. Germany did not start WW2. Ethnic Germans in Poland were mistreated, Hitler demanded the territories lost in the first war, he decided to invade and occupy these territories in response to the refusal. Britain and France declared war on Germany, again. Soon after the USSR occupied Eastern Poland and the allies sit and watch. this was not a war of Nazis, or socialism, this was a war to finally disarm the German people

 

[Deleted member 9072]

Roman empire fell down when degeneracy came
always a patten

 

[Deleted member 2632]

neither world war was out of German aggression, no reasonable cause can be found for the start of WW2, it was a conspiracy among nations to bring down the Kaiser and Habsburg thrones. Germany was winning WW1, not a single shot fired on German soil for most of the war. they had offered peace, no reparations or annexations, things would go back to how'd they been. Britain and France refused and the rest of the story is a whole other discussion. Bolshevism was a Zionist invention, they may have sent Lenin to help facilitate a revolution but the minds behind it were Jews. Germany did not start WW2. Ethnic Germans in Poland were mistreated, Hitler demanded the territories lost in the first war, he decided to invade and occupy these territories in response to the refusal. Britain and France declared war on Germany, again. Soon after the USSR occupied Eastern Poland and the allies sit and watch. this was not a war of Nazis, or socialism, this was a war to finally disarm the German people

These " mainstream historians " will never be able to explain why Germany was being aggressive when Hitler offered peace, and France and Great Britain declared war on Germany

But yet nobody stopped the Soviet Union from taking over Eastern Europe before or after the war ( Ukraine, Romania ) especially when they invaded Poland from the East

 

[Deleted member 10913]

neither world war was out of German aggression, no reasonable cause can be found for the start of WW2, it was a conspiracy among nations to bring down the Kaiser and Habsburg thrones

The first was caused by Austria. They chose to rake Bosnia from us and chose again to invade Serbia.

Britain and France refused

And why should they when they can force whole of India and Aussies to fight for them instead. From the start there was no way to exactly 'win' against a colonial Empire like Britain. Unlike Germany they didn't have to rely on foreign trade.

Bolshevism was a Zionist invention, they may have sent Lenin to help facilitate a revolution but the minds behind it were Jews.

The Revolution in Russia was menshevik. Not bolshevism. Bolshevism only succeeded because of Lenin being send. Obviously the intention wasn't to have communists take power but to cause mischief in Russia so they would be preoccupied. However it didn't exactly turn out good..

Hitler demanded the territories lost in the first war, he decided to invade and occupy these territories in response to the refusal.

Prior to this Germany occupied the Czechs, annexed Austria, took parts of eastern Prussia back. The point is they did a job that would take 30 years in 5 years. The theory of having a total war was taken as the prime theory for Germany to follow. You believe this was a good plan?

Germany, again. Soon after the USSR occupied Eastern Poland

Yes because Poland significantly weakend for some reason jfl Poland was the buffer to the Soviets. When they lost what would have happened other then the Russians taking the Eastern side.

Nazis, or socialism, this was a war to finally disarm the German people

And it wasn't because of the cunning intelligence of the Allied powers, rather done by the Germans themselves. I didn't even talk about Japan's mistakes in ww2. The Reactionaries where in favor of expanding to the north which would have been helpful only if they weren't killed off by the pro German faction

 

[WadlowMaxxing]

Prior to this Germany occupied the Czechs, annexed Austria, took parts of eastern Prussia back. The point is they did a job that would take 30 years in 5 years. The theory of having a total war was taken as the prime theory for Germany to follow. You believe this was a good plan?

they'd lost more than this 30 year land in a few signings of a deal at versailles

turk iq on full display

 

[Deleted member 2632]

The first was caused by Austria. They chose to rake Bosnia from us and chose again to invade Serbia.

World War I was started so the Jews could get Palestine

Remeber Jews fund the wars, Balfour Declaration

The Revolution in Russia was menshevik. Not bolshevism. Bolshevism only succeeded because of Lenin being send. Obviously the intention wasn't to have communists take power but to cause mischief in Russia so they would be preoccupied. However it didn't exactly turn out good..

Muh Lenin Muh Lenin, When Trotsky was the main leader of the Red Army. And Lenin admitted Communism would have failed without Trotsky who was funded by Jewish bankers in America, Max Warburg and Jacob Schiff

Prior to this Germany occupied the Czechs, annexed Austria, took parts of eastern Prussia back. The point is they did a job that would take 30 years in 5 years. The theory of having a total war was taken as the prime theory for Germany to follow. You believe this was a good plan?

Total war because the Jews got Britain, France, and America involved

And it wasn't because of the cunning intelligence of the Allied powers, rather done by the Germans themselves. I didn't even talk about Japan's mistakes in ww2. The Reactionaries where in favor of expanding to the north which would have been helpful only if they weren't killed off by the pro German faction

Yes Germany bombed itself in Dresden

 

[Deleted member 10913]

they'd lost more than this 30 year land in a few signings of a deal at versailles

turk iq on full display

Look what we lost. Biggest mistake is being part of a war you can't win. Against a colonial naval power every nation is hopeless. Germany was never a naval power, not in the first ww or the second. Neither where we. The state of OP is however a naval power. This is why They win because they control the seas unlike Germany ever did.

Why would England ever consider peace with Germany when they had millions of curries in their disposal. England did not lose any of it's colonies in ww2 so why would they just happen to lose when they did the exact same as ww1.

 

[Deleted member 10913]

World War I was started so the Jews could get Palestine

Remeber Jews fund the wars, Balfour Declaration


Muh Lenin Muh Lenin, When Trotsky was the main leader of the Red Army. And Lenin admitted Communism would have failed without Trotsky who was funded by Jewish bankers in America, Max Warburg and Jacob Schiff


Total war because the Jews got Britain, France, and America involved


Yes Germany bombed itself in Dresden

Man but why would Germany win. Ofcourse Lenin wasn't a soldier but he organised the party, the guards, persuaded the people. He did that not Trotsky. Germany had their whole fleet sitting in ww1. Against any naval power Germany could've done nothing. Neither did we. Starting this whole scenario over wouldn't change the tide.

 

[Deleted member 5809]

amerikkka

 

[Deleted member 6217]

 

[spark]

Yeah how dare how the Nazis fight back agaisnt Communism that was taking over Eastern Europe and go to war agaisnt them

Poland was mistreating German people and Hitler wanted to reclaim lost territory

There were no gassings, imagine still believing this

Nothing Germany did can compare to Americans genociding Native Americans or having black slaves

Its not outdated it drove out Communism and created an advanced civlization out of a collapsed Germany in a mere decade

what trueceldom does to a nigga

 

[Carolus]

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Look what we lost. Biggest mistake is being part of a war you can't win. Against a colonial naval power every nation is hopeless. Germany was never a naval power, not in the first ww or the second. Neither where we. The state of OP is however a naval power. This is why They win because they control the seas unlike Germany ever did.
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Why would England ever consider peace with Germany when they had millions of curries in their disposal. England did not lose any of it's colonies in ww2 so why would they just happen to lose when they did the exact same as ww1.

Have you been to Europe? How it looks better now than under the so called ''fascism'' of Germany is beyond me. What do you think would've happened if Germany didn't attack the Soviets? The soviets were in the middle of a political purge when Germany started their blitzkrieg, which was the only chance they would get lest the Soviets grew too strong and organized. If Germany didn't advance to conquer European territory they would have had no chance to stop the communist threat

It was a great cause for Germany to pursue, and total war was the only way for them to do so. They did it for the future of Europe, which is now fucked because of their failure. They did commit mistakes, they were few, but to sit and do nothing surely is worse than putting up the fight they did. The outcome was not entirely predictable, which is why they decided to give their all instead of succumbing. Their sacrifice did not help Germany in the end, as they got the worst part during and after the war, but they did save for example Scandinavia from the red army and the terror they would bring

Also England was about ready to surrender when America stepped in at the late stages of WW1

 

[Beetlejuice]

 

[Deleted member 10913]

Have you been to Europe? How it looks better now than under the so called ''fascism'' of Germany is beyond me

I never claimed it looked better or worse. What I said was that it failed already in it's early stages.

What do you think would've happened if Germany didn't attack the Soviets? The soviets were in the middle of a political purge when Germany started their blitzkrieg, which was the only chance they would get lest the Soviets grew too strong and organized

The case is that Germany only went to attack the Soviets in pursued of Bakü oil. That's my opinion on the matter. Germany needed oil for an Arial invasion to Britain instead of a naval one that was impossible.

If Germany didn't advance to conquer European territory they would have had no chance to stop the communist threat

That Job was for Poland. If that country remained strong Soviets couldn't advance further. The reason Russia could advance was because Europe destabilized in the first place but it doesn't matter. Neither does communism remain oR fascism.

It was a great cause for Germany to pursue, and total war was the only way for them to do so. They did it for the future of Europe, which is now fucked because of their failure. They did commit mistakes, they were few, but to sit and do nothing surely is worse than putting up the fight they did.

Agreed. For WW1 that is. I personally don't think the world would been better if Germany won the second World war.

total war was the only way for them to do so

Yea they believed it was the only way... where they in a position to do this? They where only able to move at land. Most their enemies where over the sea. England could literally not use one of their own and still win the war. Why fight when millions of Curries can do it for you? Onlything they needed was dominate the sea. For them it was just a repeat of ww1. If anyone England was the only one fit for total war. They could take soldiers from everywhere. Unlike Germany.

The outcome was not entirely predictable, which is why they decided to give their all instead of succumbing. Their sacrifice did not help Germany in the end

Imo it was man, for the previous mentioned argument.

Also England was about ready to surrender when America stepped in at the late stages of WW1

Really I did not know that. I personally doubt it but if you show the evidence then ofcourse it's a different matter.

Scandinavia from the red army and the terror they would bring

Like Finland or Sweden?

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My take on Fascism and Communism is that both of them are cardinally flawed to the point that they would've only died. Even if Germany won the war facism wouldn't survive. Even if the Soviets won the coldwar. Can one. Be genuinly collectivist and secular?

 

[Deleted member 2632]

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My take on Fascism and Communism is that both of them are cardinally flawed to the point that they would've only died. Even if Germany won the war facism wouldn't survive. Even if the Soviets won the coldwar. Can one. Be genuinly collectivist and secular?

Are you like a Normie or some shit bro?

Hitler like Napoleon went after the Jewish bankers, the Rothschilds

“When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.”​

Napoleon rose agaisnt Britain to challenge the Bank of England and barely lost at the battle of Waterloo

If you want to be free of Jews, especially Rothschild, you must have total war, because Roth/Jew controlled nations will come after you

Even Julius Ceaser had problems with money chargers and was assasinated over it

 

[Carolus]

I never claimed it looked better or worse. What I said was that it failed already in it's early stages.

You asked what good does it bring, and it would've been better for the rest of Europe had the soviets lost

The case is that Germany only went to attack the Soviets in pursued of Bakü oil. That's my opinion on the matter. Germany needed oil for an Arial invasion to Britain instead of a naval one that was impossible.

This is not entirely true. The main objective was(Operation Barbarossa) to reduce the soviet threat by attacking 3 main points; Kiev, Leningrad and Moscow. Only after this failed attempt in 1941 did they launch the second attempt in 1942(Operation Blue) which was aimed at conquering Stalingrad and thus gaining control over the Caucasus oil. This would've dealt a crippling blow to the soviets who were indeed dependant on this oil, and would've helped Germany whose resources were scarce

That Job was for Poland. If that country remained strong Soviets couldn't advance further. The reason Russia could advance was because Europe destabilized in the first place but it doesn't matter. Neither does communism remain oR fascism.

Let's be real, even if Poland wasn't destabilized they never could've held off the brunt of the fully mobilised red army

Agreed. For WW1 that is. I personally don't think the world would been better if Germany won the second World war.

Well, it all depends. The ''progressive'' ideas of the US would still be around had Germany ''won'' the war, seeing as Germany never could've conquered America and would've had to reach a peace agreement. Then it would've still been a war of ideas, seeing as the same people still would've owned the press. Europe as a whole for sure would've benefited had Germany won the war. Economically, socially and spiritually

Yea they believed it was the only way... where they in a position to do this? They where only able to move at land. Most their enemies where over the sea. England could literally not use one of their own and still win the war. Why fight when millions of Curries can do it for you? Onlything they needed was dominate the sea. For them it was just a repeat of ww1. If anyone England was the only one fit for total war. They could take soldiers from everywhere. Unlike Germany.

England's economy at the late stages of ww2 was completely exhausted and devastated. Had Germany only had to focus on the western front it's quite laughable to think that England would win the war. Due to neutrality acts on behalf of the US congress in the middle of the 1930's, the Germans didn't see them as the threat that they would turn out to be(then to get dragged in by Japan of course..)
England relied on US aid in order to continue the war, same as in WW1

Germany was far more technologically advanced than any other nation when it came to the air force or militarised ground vehicles, they had bombers that could cruise at 50000 feet(15000 meters) above ground(eg Ju-86), an altitude the British spitfires or any other aircraft they had at their disposal could only dream of reaching. If Germany could've focused solely on the West after success in the East they would've probably simply bombed Britain in to submission

Imo it was man, for the previous mentioned argument.

Imo it wasn't, since American aid both to the Soviets(massive amount of supplies when the Germans had reached Moscow were sent) and England couldn't have been predicted due to their neutrality status and the non-planned move of Japan dragging them in to the war

Really I did not know that. I personally doubt it but if you show the evidence then ofcourse it's a different matter.

Balfour Declaration.​

In exchange for establishing a national home for the chosen people, they would pull America in to the war in 1917 and have them win it by 1918. German J bankers wanted Germany to win originally due to conflicts with Russia, but after tastier propositions were made they quickly organised their opinion in a different manner. American press had previously been positively neutral towards Germany during WW1, but quickly turned negative after this and they joined the war

Like Finland or Sweden?

Most certainly

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My take on Fascism and Communism is that both of them are cardinally flawed to the point that they would've only died. Even if Germany won the war facism wouldn't survive. Even if the Soviets won the coldwar. Can one. Be genuinly collectivist and secular?

I think you attributing fascism as an ideology for Germany is predicated on a false narrative. You forget that the people wanted this change after the rough years of the Weimar republic where people had to sell their children as sex slaves to survive.
I'm sure fascism wouldn't have been favoured by the public after the war regardless. If Hitler's government did as good a job in fixing the country after the war as they did in the short years prior to the war, the people would surely praise the form of government that had led them there. Just as in times of old where the people would hold the King accountable during peace time but give him supreme command during wartime. Today we have the same people in charge no matter who you vote for, and only the peasants are squabbling with each other instead of enacting any real change through their meaningless votes

You raise a good question, I don't know if you can be genuinely collectivist and secular at the same time. I don't think so, I think the Christian values that had been present in Europe was of considerable importance in ensuring a collectivist society that would not implode on itself as we can see in western societies today, the degenerate individualistic ideas today simply do not present any motivation for a collectivist society to stand united. This is probably why Germany was able to rise from the ashes of the first world war to the great idealistic nation they became before they were ashes once again. I think Islam has been monumental for Muslim nations as well, as it has bound the collective in those countries together for millennia

 

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Are you like a Normie or some shit bro?

Hitler like Napoleon went after the Jewish bankers, the Rothschilds

“When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.”​

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Napoleon rose agaisnt Britain to challenge the Bank of England and barely lost at the battle of Waterloo

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If you want to be free of Jews, especially Rothschild, you must have total war, because Roth/Jew controlled nations will come after you

Even Julius Ceaser had problems with money chargers and was assasinated over it

Man I talk about the ideological foundations and the doctrines of it. The question is not what Napoleon said, what Julius Caeser had said, what fascism tells or any of that sort rather the question is does it work. Does it work to be a fascist in this day? Does it work to have total war as a military doctrine. Spain being Fascist still collapsed despite not losing a war and unlike Nazi Germany having accepted Christianity as it's main tenants. You can say 'it happened because of this' 'because of that' but it doesn't change the situation. It can't change the outcome. Germany can be fascist again and it will still fail, Spain can be falangist again and it will still fail. You aswell as I know the answer. That the doctrine itself is cardinally flawed from the beginning not because it's been undermined but from the beginning.

Wether you see a reason for or against it is not my concern. In the end Turkey is allied to the USA , right now both our states are the strongest in this alliance.

total war

Is worthless if your opponent is a sea based Empire. Look how compact each losing is and how broad and all over the place the winning side is. Looking at this it doesn't make sense why the Empire that is compact loses however what most fail to realise is that it's not the land that decides the victory rather the sea does. Each winning side is more compact then the loser for it is connected by the sea making conquering it impossible.

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Man.. Chadlite Rutherford just look how the winning side is all over the world map while the losing side is at one land connected spot. There is a reason for this. The winning sides are maritime empires while the losing side are not.

Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.”

No one cares about a few bankers n what not. A Maritime Empire can only be based upon financial gain. If you control the sea then you control trade. This it the patriotism of such empires. That's it.

This is not entirely true. The main objective was(Operation Barbarossa) to reduce the soviet threat by attacking 3 main points; Kiev, Leningrad and Moscow. Only after this failed attempt in 1941 did they launch the second attempt in 1942(Operation Blue) which was aimed at conquering Stalingrad and thus gaining control over the Caucasus oil.

Germany attacked the Soviets to gain control of more landmass in other words resources to eventually fight on the air. Is this not the case? Wether it's from Kiev or Siberia is not that important.

You asked what good does it bring, and it would've been better for the rest of Europe had the soviets lost

Well they did lose eventually.

Let's be real, even if Poland wasn't destabilized they never could've held off the brunt of the fully mobilised red army

Why wouldn't they? All of Poland and Russia is plain land. Any Army that's purged loses it's fighting capacity. The Soviets where contained and would remain so imo.

In exchange for establishing a national home for the chosen people, they would pull America in to the war in 1917 and have them win it by 1918. German J bankers wanted Germany to win originally due to conflicts with Russia, but after tastier propositions were made they quickly organised their opinion in a different manner. American press had previously been positively neutral towards Germany during WW1, but quickly turned negative after this and they joined the war

Interesting ngl but do you believe Britain would accept peace if the Americans didn't join?? I doubt they would Because they didn't need to. For the exact reason I mentioned earlier to chadlite Rutherford.

I think you attributing fascism as an ideology for Germany is predicated on a false narrative. You forget that the people wanted this change after the rough years of the Weimar republic where people had to sell their children as sex slaves to survive.
I'm sure fascism wouldn't have been favoured by the public after the war regardless. If Hitler's government did as good a job in fixing the country after the war as they did in the short years prior to the war, the people would surely praise the form of government that had led them there".

Regardless if the Germans praised hitler or not. The whole nation was in dependence of a party.. Like the Soviets the moment would end so would the state itself. Any top-down structure can't be sustained. This is what the Soviets where, national socialist Germany, fascist Italy and Spain. Out of all fascist states Spain was probably the most succesful for Christianity which is a better up social construct was part of falangism. The rest of it's doctrines where all top down constructs.

Gleichschaltung (German pronunciation or in English, co-ordination, was in Nazi terminology the process of Nazification by which Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party successively established a system of totalitarian control and coordination over all aspects of German society and societies occupied by Nazi Germany "from the economy and trade associations to the media, culture and education

Germany ofcourse was the worst case of this top down redesigns.

Today we have the same people in charge no matter who you vote for, and only the peasants are squabbling with each other instead of enacting any real change through their meaningless votes

Most likely tbh because in the end all 3 ideologies are more in common with each other then anything other. They all act in a similair way in the sense that top down bureaucracy is forced upon subjects. You must understand that any man from feudal Europe was more 'free' then he is right now.

You raise a good question, I don't know if you can be genuinely collectivist and secular at the same time. I don't think so, I think the Christian values that had been present in Europe was of considerable importance in ensuring a collectivist society that would not implode on itself as we can see in western societies today, the degenerate individualistic ideas today simply do not present any motivation for a collectivist society to stand united. This is probably why Germany was able to rise from the ashes of the first world war to the great idealistic nation they became before they were ashes once again. I think Islam has been monumental for Muslim nations as well, as it has bound the collective in those countries together for millennia

Indeed I am glad you see this. A society can never be individualistic if it is, it loses it's right to exist. If it isn't it can't form upon any secular values. Atleast in my opinion. Communism and national socialism where this and they died.

Any nation that is Secular can hardly stay in survivalism(collectivism) likewise any state that is Traditional in an theistic sense can hardly every be individualistic. Liberalism stayed around because it never contradicted itself. It was secular/individualistic. Fascism/ Communism where collectivist but forced on a secular mindset. Does it suprise you that most ex soviet states saw a religious rise after the fall of communism? They where already collectivist, once forced Atheism was taken out it returned a more natural state. For Germany it was the reverse. They became secular and moved to individualism.

Look how the Baltic states moved to individualism in a span 6 years. Note that secularism remained the same. Same way look how Latin America moved to collectivism because of it's traditional society. The Islamic world being the least secular remained at the bottem left. Places like Georgia/ Armenia are the most Christian and in a way like us if that makes sense..

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my post from another thread

the 3rd reich style and aesthetics mogged the living shit out of everyone else, which is probably why that whole thing is still so tempting to many today. hitler had a good eye for aesthetics and it showed in their architecture, uniforms, parades and other things. but apart from that, hitler and his party were whack in many aspects. I kinda wish they weren't, because they did absolutely mog everything in terms of visuals. ngl.

you only look at the good parts, but ignore how they gassed people or violently invaded poland and killed innocent civilians

raving about an outdated political system in the current year is pure autism to begin with


having said all that, fuck censorship
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gas chambers are a hoax, also the math wouldn't even fucking add up, look at the red cross numbers.