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Went out with a girl to a party yesterday and fumbled so bad just due to being non NT and high inhib around her (couldn't drink since I'm taking accutane), made me think about some things

The most brutal blackpill is realizing the bluepill is en masse correct and having a strong personality presence throughout the room/being outgoing and fun to hang around dictates so much regarding how women feel attracted towards you and how other men respect you or not - you can't just be good looking, behave like a mentalcel and expect to have social success in whatever group setting you're in, might that be girls or guys (which I'm afraid is something that a lot of people here believe in)

This entire discussion ties back to the foundations of human philosophy where Plato and the Greeks conversed about the relationship between beauty and morality, in which "the beautiful" is more good than wrong, more spiritually ascended and divine, and more righteous in their doings - closer to the truth

In the real world, this can be easily translated to a sort of halo effect, in which people naturally expect you to have manners, behave and talk in a way that mirrors your physical appearance

I imagine this is a survival of the fittest mechanism wired into our fusiform gyrus section of the brain in order to process and select facial features, which surprisingly conveys traits of our behavior through physical aspects as I explained in this thread:
So even in case you do actually ascend, changing your neuronal signaling pathways to your new face sounds almost impossible - no bimax for your brain I'm afraid
 
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it was always about social domination, looks are just one path there
 
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Healing non NT is the ultimate blackpill task. I will experiment with anti depressants and lsd when I finish accutane to ensure my ascension won't go to waste
 
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Went out with a girl to a party yesterday and fumbled so bad just due to being non NT and high inhib around her (couldn't drink since I'm taking accutane), made me think about some things
This. I've fumbled with girls due to being non NT and aspie. Personality ACTUALLY matters, but it doesn't mean shit if you're ugly. However, people think that just because ugly people can't get bitches due to looks despite not having good personality, above average can still fumble to due being aspie. There's always a bigger fish.
 
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Most people are mentalcels. (And if you aren't it's over, because there's no way to substantially change your looks :lul:)

In my last year of highschool legit 10 girls approached me wanting to fuck but I was too non-NT, sleep deprived, depressed, tired and paranoid to go through with most of them. Had to fake my personality to hit.
 
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That's a given, girls expect you to be NT, well-rounded, funny, and caring all ON TOP of being tall, lean and attractive, and also of a respectable social status (for LTRs). Just being NT won't get you any girls, and it is easier to fake being NT for a night than to completely change your appearance. The reality is you need the whole package.
 
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Went out with a girl to a party yesterday and fumbled so bad just due to being non NT and high inhib around her (couldn't drink since I'm taking accutane), made me think about some things

The most brutal blackpill is realizing the bluepill is en masse correct and having a strong personality presence throughout the room/being outgoing and fun to hang around dictates so much regarding how women feel attracted towards you and how other men respect you or not - you can't just be good looking, behave like a mentalcel and expect to have social success in whatever group setting you're in, might that be girls or guys (which I'm afraid is something that a lot of people here believe in)

This entire discussion ties back to the foundations of human philosophy where Plato and the Greeks conversed about the relationship between beauty and morality, in which "the beautiful" is more good than wrong, more spiritually ascended and divine, and more righteous in their doings - closer to the truth

In the real world, this can be easily translated to a sort of halo effect, in which people naturally expect you to have manners, behave and talk in a way that mirrors your physical appearance

I imagine this is a survival of the fittest mechanism wired into our fusiform gyrus section of the brain in order to process and select facial features, which surprisingly conveys traits of our behavior through physical aspects as I explained in this thread:
So even in case you do actually ascend, changing your neuronal signaling pathways to your new face sounds almost impossible - no bimax for your brain I'm afraid
The origin of this halo effect can be traced back to the Greeks, who believed that external beauty also reflected inner beauty. However, the truth is that physical attractiveness isn't the only factor. The blackpill is quite extreme, the bluepill too simplistic, and the redpill is closer to reality but still lacks some important aspects. A balanced approach involves blending these perspectives and not solely relying on one. One has to find a middle ground between naivety and pessimism. Being socially adept is essential, along with reaching a certain level of physical attractiveness. After that, how you conduct yourself becomes crucial.
 
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Went out with a girl to a party yesterday and fumbled so bad just due to being non NT and high inhib around her (couldn't drink since I'm taking accutane), made me think about some things

The most brutal blackpill is realizing the bluepill is en masse correct and having a strong personality presence throughout the room/being outgoing and fun to hang around dictates so much regarding how women feel attracted towards you and how other men respect you or not - you can't just be good looking, behave like a mentalcel and expect to have social success in whatever group setting you're in, might that be girls or guys (which I'm afraid is something that a lot of people here believe in)

This entire discussion ties back to the foundations of human philosophy where Plato and the Greeks conversed about the relationship between beauty and morality, in which "the beautiful" is more good than wrong, more spiritually ascended and divine, and more righteous in their doings - closer to the truth

In the real world, this can be easily translated to a sort of halo effect, in which people naturally expect you to have manners, behave and talk in a way that mirrors your physical appearance

I imagine this is a survival of the fittest mechanism wired into our fusiform gyrus section of the brain in order to process and select facial features, which surprisingly conveys traits of our behavior through physical aspects as I explained in this thread:
So even in case you do actually ascend, changing your neuronal signaling pathways to your new face sounds almost impossible - no bimax for your brain I'm afraid
Be honest, you only two went out because you said “sup baby I’m a .org mod” and she was all over you. Correct?
 
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Be honest, you only two went out because you said “sup baby I’m a .org mod” and she was all over you. Correct?
Dont spill the beans bhai...
 
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Agreed most incels here beleive that once they ascend to chad then all they gotta do is stand in the corner of a room until a htb+ approaches them and rapes them
 
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Um... yeah... no. You fucking retard.
 
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Went out with a girl to a party yesterday and fumbled so bad just due to being non NT and high inhib around her (couldn't drink since I'm taking accutane), made me think about some things

The most brutal blackpill is realizing the bluepill is en masse correct and having a strong personality presence throughout the room/being outgoing and fun to hang around dictates so much regarding how women feel attracted towards you and how other men respect you or not - you can't just be good looking, behave like a mentalcel and expect to have social success in whatever group setting you're in, might that be girls or guys (which I'm afraid is something that a lot of people here believe in)

This entire discussion ties back to the foundations of human philosophy where Plato and the Greeks conversed about the relationship between beauty and morality, in which "the beautiful" is more good than wrong, more spiritually ascended and divine, and more righteous in their doings - closer to the truth

In the real world, this can be easily translated to a sort of halo effect, in which people naturally expect you to have manners, behave and talk in a way that mirrors your physical appearance

I imagine this is a survival of the fittest mechanism wired into our fusiform gyrus section of the brain in order to process and select facial features, which surprisingly conveys traits of our behavior through physical aspects as I explained in this thread:
So even in case you do actually ascend, changing your neuronal signaling pathways to your new face sounds almost impossible - no bimax for your brain I'm afraid
Based. I'm starting to realize more and more that the blackpill just gives you an edge. And also lets you date your looksmatched easier. So the better you look the better looking women your more likely to be with.
 
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That's a given, girls expect you to be NT, well-rounded, funny, and caring all ON TOP of being tall, lean and attractive, and also of a respectable social status (for LTRs). Just being NT won't get you any girls, and it is easier to fake being NT for a night than to completely change your appearance. The reality is you need the whole package.
No amount of looksmaxing for my non nt brain same goes with chad mentalcels on this site
 
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This is true and the radicalisation of blackpill made many people forget what was the basis of all that stuff.
Blackpill was at first a refutation to redpill (or rather old redpill was to PUA) talk that all that matters is confidence and game, and with that you can get any woman. Which is obviously bullshit because your traits and behavior don't mean shit when you don't meet woman's looks treshold, and the halo effect also modifies the way she reacts to what you say and do. But that's it, that just means you need certain amount of looks for your approach to work.

However, the whole blackpill theory later evolved into very radical stance that nothing but looks matter. And that either you look good and women come to you by themselves and beg you to fuck them, or you're an ugly incel and no matter what you do you'll be rejected. But this is not true, if you look good you still need to talk to women, start the conversations, show at least some eloquence and at least pretend to be romantically engaged. Without this most men will not have success with women. So you need to be somewhat NT, confident, know how to approach and talk with women, have some experience and knowledge how to not make an ass out of yourself. And for the love of God don't listen to rotters who are completely removed from reality and sabotage not only themselves but also others on this forum.
 
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That is still blackpill. Blackpill dictates that factors mostly outside of your control determine your place in life. Someone with social anxiety can’t just “be confident.” An apsie can’t stop being weird. Height, facial structure, race, and personality/neurochemistry are factors outside of your control.

Bluepill beliefs are: be yourself and there is somebody for everybody. Modern men outnumber modern women, and historically humans were polygamous. Bluepill is a bullshit cope to stop subhuman men from waging war on each other in order to get them to shutup and slave away at their useless jobs while women and above average women reap all the benefits.
 
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Most people are mentalcels. (And if you aren't it's over, because there's no way to substantially change your looks :lul:)

In my last year of highschool legit 10 girls approached me wanting to fuck but I was too non-NT, sleep deprived, depressed, tired and paranoid to go through with most of them. Had to fake my personality to hit.
You can substantially change your looks just depends on the potential of ur base

I went subhuman to mtn (atleast) in a year
 
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This is true and the radicalisation of blackpill made many people forget what was the basis of all that stuff.
Blackpill was at first a refutation to redpill (or rather old redpill was to PUA) talk that all that matters is confidence and game, and with that you can get any woman. Which is obviously bullshit because your traits and behavior don't mean shit when you don't meet woman's looks treshold, and the halo effect also modifies the way she reacts to what you say and do. But that's it, that just means you need certain amount of looks for your approach to work.

However, the whole blackpill theory later evolved into very radical stance that nothing but looks matter. And that either you look good and women come to you by themselves and beg you to fuck them, or you're an ugly incel and no matter what you do you'll be rejected. But this is not true, if you look good you still need to talk to women, start the conversations, show at least some eloquence and at least pretend to be romantically engaged. Without this most men will not have success with women. So you need to be somewhat NT, confident, know how to approach and talk with women, have some experience and knowledge how to not make an ass out of yourself. And for the love of God don't listen to rotters who are completely removed from reality and sabotage not only themselves but also others on this forum.
Exactly. The entire concept of the blackpill has evolved from what it used to be years ago.

“Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket.”​

 
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That is still blackpill. Blackpill dictates that factors mostly outside of your control determine your place in life. Someone with social anxiety can’t just “be confident.” An apsie can’t stop being weird. Height, facial structure, race, and personality/neurochemistry are factors outside of your control.

Bluepill beliefs are: be yourself and there is somebody for everybody. Modern men outnumber modern women, and historically humans were polygamous. Bluepill is a bullshit cope to stop subhuman men from waging war on each other in order to get them to shutup and slave away at their useless jobs while women and above average women reap all the benefits.
Mostly agree but I was highlighting the aspect of which looks aren't 100% everything as @emeraldglass @czwarty pointed out
 
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correct. finally a nuanced take on this that doesn't sound like it was generated by an incel bot

the inevitability of that dread that comes with never having a 100% guarantee you will not get mogged/cucked/whatever will haunt your subconscious+ as long as you live

people here act like you're safe from every form of Ls after reaching a certain smv level, when genetic marvels, who are on a completely different plane of existence smv-wise still get hurt and their lives destroyed on a daily basis
 
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Correct, looks are kinda cope tbh, niggas way uglier than me and shorter have 5 times the experience with women I have just because they're more socially adjusted
 
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Amazing discussion on this thread. Fuark, this is peak .org.
 
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That is still blackpill. Blackpill dictates that factors mostly outside of your control determine your place in life. Someone with social anxiety can’t just “be confident.” An apsie can’t stop being weird. Height, facial structure, race, and personality/neurochemistry are factors outside of your control.

Bluepill beliefs are: be yourself and there is somebody for everybody. Modern men outnumber modern women, and historically humans were polygamous. Bluepill is a bullshit cope to stop subhuman men from waging war on each other in order to get them to shutup and slave away at their useless jobs while women and above average women reap all the benefits.
That's true about neurochemistry. Much of your neurochemistry is not only determined by genetics, but factors such as whether or not your mom was stressed out or ill when she was pregnant with you, birth trauma etc. Whether it's genetic or early environment, still outside of your control. Studies have shown that male babies carried in the womb of stressed mothers grew up to be less physically attractive and less psychologically attractive than male babies carried in the wombs of less stressed women.

They believe that since stress causes the production of cortisol, this excess cortisol goes through the umbilical cord to the baby and interferes with the production of pre natal testosterone. Bottom line is that you have zero control over your mom's stress level while she's pregnant with you or whether she gets sick while pregnant with you.

My mom had gestational diabetes when she was pregnant with me.
 
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This is 1 of the most high IQ threads I've clicked on in a while with mostly truth and less copes.

still makes me sad tho
 
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That's true about neurochemistry. Much of your neurochemistry is not only determined by genetics, but factors such as whether or not your mom was stressed out or ill when she was pregnant with you, birth trauma etc. Whether it's genetic or early environment, still outside of your control. Studies have shown that male babies carried in the womb of stressed mothers grew up to be less physically attractive and less psychologically attractive than male babies carried in the wombs of less stressed women.

They believe that since stress causes the production of cortisol, this excess cortisol goes through the umbilical cord to the baby and interferes with the production of pre natal testosterone. Bottom line is that you have zero control over your mom's stress level while she's pregnant with you or whether she gets sick while pregnant with you.

My mom had gestational diabetes when she was pregnant with me.
It truly is an ironic duality on how most of those aware of info like this that could ensure a better future for their kids are only blackpillers jfl
 
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Nope op, not really. Looks can literally MULTIPLY the amount of satisfying relationships, positive experiences, opportunities you receive. There are other factors too but the almighty L( looks) can make much, much difference. Look at tinder experiments. There are chicks that can get 1,228 swipes in a day and chicks that would get 7 in a day. And in those tinder matches are differences in quality and other factors. Could the chick that gets 7 swipes in a day have a happy and fulfilled life? Yes it's very possible. Does that mean that, GENERALLY, her life would have been more favorable if she was more attractive? GENERALLY, yes.
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Nope op, not really. Looks can literally MULTIPLY the amount of satisfying relationships, positive experiences, opportunities you receive. There are other factors too but the almighty L( looks) can make much, much difference. Look at tinder experiments. There are chicks that can get 1,228 swipes in a day and chicks that would get 7 in a day. And in those tinder matches are differences in quality and other factors. Could the chick that gets 7 swipes in a day have a happy and fulfilled life? Yes it's very possible. Does that mean that, GENERALLY, her life would have been more favorable if she was more attractive? GENERALLY, yes.
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Not sure if you understood my point in the first place tho

Looks are going to get you into the front door but even a good looking mentalcel will struggle and won't be able to keep up afterwards - given the initial threshold is met
 
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Not sure if you understood my point in the first place tho

Looks are going to get you into the front door but even a good looking mentalcel will struggle and won't be able to keep up afterwards - given the initial threshold is met
Agreed. But just like there is an average looks there is average NT. Most people will be average NT and not spergs.
 
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It truly is an ironic duality on how most of those aware of info like this that could ensure a better future for their kids are only blackpillers jfl
Correct. When I finally impregnate a foid, I'm going to make sure she's as stress free as possible, especially if she's having a boy. Stress during pregnancy doesn't seem to affect girl babies like boy babies. I want to do everything I can to ensure he grows up to be a NT Tyrone
 
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Agreed. But just like there is an average looks there is average NT. Most people will be average NT and not spergs.
I think OP's point in this thread is that for maximum success all around, one needs to be at least above average in both.

Looks & social skills. One can't replace the other and you're severely limited if you're good in one but lacking in the other.
Correct. When I finally impregnate a foid, I'm going to make sure she's as stress free as possible, especially if she's having a boy. Stress during pregnancy doesn't seem to affect girl babies like boy babies. I want to do everything I can to ensure he grows up to be a NT Tyrone
Or you could just go out for milk and come back 25 years later.
 
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Nobody here is "good looking aspie" first very few peope on this site are legit autistic and they are very easy to recognize, second most people here looks wise get mogged by average nomalfags let alone Chads.
People on this site severly overrate users here and especially "PSL Chads" (in reality none of them is even remotely close to Chad) and underrate normies.
I don't want to repeat myself like a parrot, this should be common knowlege by now.
 
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Just charmmaxx, dominate the social events, girls flock to you and other good things flow to you. Contextual status is everything.
 
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Just charmmaxx, dominate the social events, girls flock to you and other good things flow to you. Contextual status is everything.
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Can tell both of you don't go outside nor talk to women jfl
>Makes a thread about the bluepill being correct
>complains when someone calls it bluepill.org

yeah, your IQ is def the thing hindering your success with women, im so sorry
 
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>Makes a thread about the bluepill being correct
>complains when someone calls it bluepill.org

yeah, your IQ is def the thing hindering your success with women, im so sorry
Death tier reading and interpretation abilities, so ironic talking about IQ yourself when
This is 1 of the most high IQ threads I've clicked on in a while with mostly truth and less copes.

still makes me sad tho
 
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Dont even really want to bother reading the replys on this post. Im pretty sure its an echo chamber by now, with a fair amount of replies actually correctly correcting OPs statements. I can bet.

bluepill isnt some cult of information like redpill(female dating stratagies) or blackpill(an amalgamation of FDS, human nature, conspiracy theory etc.)

Bluepill is simply a label for the traits that constitutes a “beta” male or a male who is socially dominated, matriarchal, submissive to strange regime, etc.

This whole shit you said about impressionable personality and things has nothing to do with how a person uses bluepill in context. When they use it in context they are generally refering to the things i categorized as bluepill above

You can have 100 girlfriends at the same time and be “bluepilled or redpilled”. Bluepill doesn’t refer to those things you speak of OP. For example, the person you reference could still infact be bluepilled and vise versa, redpilled, or even “blackpilled/mgtow”. So what im saying is that your using the wrong label to theme for your post. Its confusing.


Also plato? Bro tbh read the bible. Your not learning anything more than elementary school mental and moral precision from those plato books.
 
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It's still "blackpill" in the sense that you can't really change a mentalcel brain.
 
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Im slowly starting to get frustrated with the gynocentrism of this forum.

Now you don't only want to change your looks to jestermaxx for females, but even your CHARACTER, the thing that actually defines and is you.

Man, this is actually sad.

No uniqueness, just normie envy and sadness. Oh man...
 
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Dont even really want to bother reading the replys on this post. Im pretty sure its an echo chamber by now, with a fair amount of replies actually correctly correcting OPs statements. I can bet.

Also bluepill isnt some cult of information like redpill(female dating stratagies) or blackpill(an amalgamation of FDS, human nature, conspiracy theory etc.)

Bluepill is simply a label for the traits that constitutes a “beta” male or a male who is socially dominated, matriarchal, submissive to strange regime, etc.

This whole shit you said about personality and things has nothing to do with how a person uses bluepill in context. You can have 100 girlfriends at the same time and be “bluepilled”. Bluepill dont refer to those things you speak of OP.
The "bluepill" terminology use was to simply imply that personality matters (at least in a bigger degree that the forum makes it out to be), nothing more
It's still "blackpill" in the sense that you can't really change a mentalcel brain.
That's true but slightly up to debate depending on your viewpoint and efforts to ntmax I guess, prob cope tho
 
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The "bluepill" terminology use was to simply imply that personality matters (at least in a bigger degree that the forum makes it out to be), nothing more

That's true but slightly up to debate depending on your viewpoint and efforts to ntmax I guess, prob cope tho

Thats what i mean. The time and tested idea of Bluepill does not stand for or defines the idea that “personality matters”

Your info is not bad as its an observation, its just that using “bluepill” is a really wierd/wrong label to describe what you experienced. Because bluepill does not globally refer to what your describing it as.

If anything your post would have been 100% more less confusing if you replaced the word bluepill with “preselection” etc. or even what people here coined as Nt/nonNt
 
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Can tell both of you don't go outside nor talk to women jfl
"touch grass, go outside, work on your personality"

why the fuck are you here? lol
 
The "bluepill" terminology use was to simply imply that personality matters (at least in a bigger degree that the forum makes it out to be), nothing more

That's true but slightly up to debate depending on your viewpoint and efforts to ntmax I guess, prob cope tho
Except the actual evidence shows personality is almost meaningless, and to what extent it matters it's not about being a nice guy with a "good personality" as people tend to think of it - it's being a manipulative dark triad sociopath. Just don't have autism, and even Chad can get away with autism if his looks carry him enough or he learns to mask it.
 
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"touch grass, go outside, work on your personality"

why the fuck are you here? lol
There are levels to the game

Looks are the first one and the basic threshold

After you get through level 1 you realize there's more to uncover and go through

I'm guessing you haven't got through phase 1 to even come to that realization but I don't blame you
 
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Everyone in this thread is a little bit right. There are many ways to increase your value, not just looks. Think less black and white and more in the gray area. There are 3/10 men who sleep with woman solely due to personality, or wealth, or whatever. There are 7/10 men who sleep with woman because of their looks, or who still get cucked because of a weak personality. There are many ways to win in life and is there is many ways to lose in life. Literal limitless possibilites. That's life. Don't rope just because your jaw is slightly deformed and literally just live your life and get surgery in the future if you really hate it.
 
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Genetics decide your personality so blackpill is still true. If you are born as a chad you will be treated way better and therefore have a better personality.

The real blackpill doesn't say that personality doesn't matter. Blackpill says that everything is caused by genetics and since we don't have free will you can't change your personality. Basically you have no control over you're success in life.
 
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