Most of you arent ugly, youre just biochemically castrated (GTFIH)

[Zanecels.]

Most men on this forum aren’t subhuman because of their bones.
They’re subhuman because their neuroendocrine axis is completely wrecked.

You’re not unattractive.
You’re inflamed, insulin-resistant, chronically sleep-deprived, estrogen-dominant, and addicted to artificial dopamine.

Plastic surgery won’t save you if your bloodwork looks like a 70-year-old man.
This is a breakdown of what 99% of “hardcases” on this forum need before even considering looksmaxxing.

---



1. Cortisol: The Silent Mugger of Your Face

High cortisol is facial suicide. It kills collagen, bloats the face, and erases your testosterone.

*Chronically elevated cortisol = shallow skin, dark circles, bloated jawline.
* Catabolizes muscle tissue (including facial muscles = hollow cheeks, weak jaw)
* Suppresses natural testosterone and growth hormone production
* Triggers insulin resistance → more facial fat retention


Fix your circadian rhythm.
* 30 min of sunlight within 1 hour of waking = natural cortisol spike
* No blue light after 8 PM
* Cold showers blunt cortisol spikes (PubMed: 26721873)
* Ashwagandha 600mg daily (clinically shown to reduce cortisol by 23–30%)

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33946465/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31517876/https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6979308/
---



*2. Dopamine: The Reason You Have Dead Eyes and Zero Discipline*

Porn, TikTok, sugaryour dopamine receptors are fried.
Low dopamine = low motivation, low discipline, poor posture, dead social energy.

You can’t looksmax with a burnt-out reward system.


*Dopamine is linked to testosterone and facial tension
*It drives posture, presence, and energy (things women detect instantly)
*Low dopamine also means low serotonin, which affects skin healing and mood stability


*Rebuild your baseline:*

* Dopamine detox (no porn, no social media for 30 days)
* L-Tyrosine 1g/day = dopamine precursor (source: *Neuropsychologia, 1999*)
* Deep focus > shallow stimuli (literally rewires your frontal cortex)
* 1 hour walk in nature = dopamine, BDNF, and serotonin boost

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26424423/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25797188/

---



3. Testosterone: The Foundational Aesthetic Hormone

T isn’t just about libido or aggression.
It dictates bone density, skin texture, facial hair, and even scent.

The average male’s testosterone has dropped over 40% in the past 4 decades (source: Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism).

LOW T=

* Puffy face
* Weak bone remodeling
* Poor healing and inflammation
* No frame, no drive

Fix:

* Lift heavy (especially squats, deadlifts)
* Zinc, magnesium, and boron = proven micronutrients to boost free T
* Tongkat Ali (200–400 mg/day) – raises free T by 37% (PubMed: 23754780)
* Avoid plastics, seed oils, and soy (xenoestrogens ruin endocrine function)

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17062768/https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32151259/
---


4. Insulin Resistance: The Real Reason You Have a Fat Face

Facial aesthetics depend on fat distribution.
If you have puffy cheeks, a double chin, or deep acne it’s almost always insulin-related.

* High blood sugar = chronic inflammation
* Insulin resistance = poor collagen formation, poor skin turnover
* Most guys today are prediabetic and don’t even know it

Fix

* 18:6 intermittent fasting
* Walk after every meal (improves insulin by 40–50%)
* Eliminate seed oils, sugars, refined carbs
* Berberine 500mg 2x/day = same effect as metformin (PubMed: 18442638)

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23808999/https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3310165/

---


5. Natural maxxing protocol:


GH = tighter skin, deeper sleep, better muscle-to-fat ratio.

* Deep sleep is the #1 trigger for GH release
* GH spikes during fasting, intense resistance training, and cold exposure
* Low GH = old-looking face, poor skin healing, stagnant muscle growth



Natural maxxing protocol:

* Sleep 7.5–9 hrs in a dark room (blackout, cold)
* Fast for 16–24 hours 2x per week
* L-Arginine + L-Ornithine pre-bed = GH precursors
* No food 2 hrs before sleep = better nocturnal GH pulse


Weight Loss-Independent Changes in Human Growth Hormone

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3127426/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39991046/

---

Neuroendocrine maxxing isn’t cope. It’s the highest-tier blackpill.

 

[The Homelander]

Zanecels.​

Iron​

Joined Mar 4, 2025 Posts 72 Reputation 30

 

[PeakIncels]

I think your just ugly bro

 

[Isaacxie]

naturemax and detox

 

[Zanecels.]

I think your just ugly bro

You didn’t reply to the post. You reacted to your own insecurity blud

 

[Joshrc]

do these even work. resistance training is cope without blasting

 

[loyolaxavvierretard]

Doing this improves quality of life and improves facial attractiveness marginally.

It wont turn you into a conventionally attractive person if you are below average looking

 

[Joshrc]

my routine is sleeping good, eating good, having low stress. i think thats all u need for basic softmax

 

[Joshrc]

idk but i think fasting is cope cuz ur js basically starving urself

 

[thegiganigga]

dnr just inject test

 

[Zanecels.]

Doing this improves quality of life and improves facial attractiveness marginally.

It wont turn you into a conventionally attractive person if you are below average looking

So? Nobody said you’d morph into a Chad.
But if you can outcompete 80% of guys chemically castrated by their lifestyle, you’re not average you’re optimized

 

[Zanecels.]

 

[loyolaxavvierretard]

So? Nobody said you’d morph into a Chad.
But if you can outcompete 80% of guys chemically castrated by their lifestyle, you’re not average you’re optimized

I agree but it is not the highest tier blackpill like you state. Also all the supplements you stated arent exactly cheap to run on

 

[Zanecels.]

dnr just inject test

Saying 'inject test' is like giving steroids to a guy who doesn’t even sleep, train, or eat right.
You’re not optimizing you’re compensating gng

 

[thegiganigga]

I

Saying 'inject test' is like giving steroids to a guy who doesn’t even sleep, train, or eat right.
You’re not optimizing you’re compensating gng

Im obviously fucking trolling nigger

 

[kazama]

Whats the point of doing all this??? At the end of the day a sociopath will be loved by some white woman who is obsessed with him and then be mounted by him, and I'll be reading shit like this hoping someone sees that Im more than matter, no one will love u deeply bhai.

 

[BiggiecheeseI]

Most men on this forum aren’t subhuman because of their bones.
They’re subhuman because their neuroendocrine axis is completely wrecked.

You’re not unattractive.
You’re inflamed, insulin-resistant, chronically sleep-deprived, estrogen-dominant, and addicted to artificial dopamine.

Plastic surgery won’t save you if your bloodwork looks like a 70-year-old man.
This is a breakdown of what 99% of “hardcases” on this forum need before even considering looksmaxxing.

---



1. Cortisol: The Silent Mugger of Your Face

High cortisol is facial suicide. It kills collagen, bloats the face, and erases your testosterone.

*Chronically elevated cortisol = shallow skin, dark circles, bloated jawline.
* Catabolizes muscle tissue (including facial muscles = hollow cheeks, weak jaw)
* Suppresses natural testosterone and growth hormone production
* Triggers insulin resistance → more facial fat retention


Fix your circadian rhythm.
* 30 min of sunlight within 1 hour of waking = natural cortisol spike
* No blue light after 8 PM
* Cold showers blunt cortisol spikes (PubMed: 26721873)
* Ashwagandha 600mg daily (clinically shown to reduce cortisol by 23–30%)

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33946465/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31517876/https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6979308/
---



*2. Dopamine: The Reason You Have Dead Eyes and Zero Discipline*

Porn, TikTok, sugaryour dopamine receptors are fried.
Low dopamine = low motivation, low discipline, poor posture, dead social energy.

You can’t looksmax with a burnt-out reward system.


*Dopamine is linked to testosterone and facial tension
*It drives posture, presence, and energy (things women detect instantly)
*Low dopamine also means low serotonin, which affects skin healing and mood stability


*Rebuild your baseline:*

* Dopamine detox (no porn, no social media for 30 days)
* L-Tyrosine 1g/day = dopamine precursor (source: *Neuropsychologia, 1999*)
* Deep focus > shallow stimuli (literally rewires your frontal cortex)
* 1 hour walk in nature = dopamine, BDNF, and serotonin boost

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26424423/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25797188/

---



3. Testosterone: The Foundational Aesthetic Hormone

T isn’t just about libido or aggression.
It dictates bone density, skin texture, facial hair, and even scent.

The average male’s testosterone has dropped over 40% in the past 4 decades (source: Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism).

LOW T=

* Puffy face
* Weak bone remodeling
* Poor healing and inflammation
* No frame, no drive

Fix:

* Lift heavy (especially squats, deadlifts)
* Zinc, magnesium, and boron = proven micronutrients to boost free T
* Tongkat Ali (200–400 mg/day) – raises free T by 37% (PubMed: 23754780)
* Avoid plastics, seed oils, and soy (xenoestrogens ruin endocrine function)

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17062768/https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32151259/
---


4. Insulin Resistance: The Real Reason You Have a Fat Face

Facial aesthetics depend on fat distribution.
If you have puffy cheeks, a double chin, or deep acne it’s almost always insulin-related.

* High blood sugar = chronic inflammation
* Insulin resistance = poor collagen formation, poor skin turnover
* Most guys today are prediabetic and don’t even know it

Fix

* 18:6 intermittent fasting
* Walk after every meal (improves insulin by 40–50%)
* Eliminate seed oils, sugars, refined carbs
* Berberine 500mg 2x/day = same effect as metformin (PubMed: 18442638)

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23808999/https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3310165/

---


5. Natural maxxing protocol:


GH = tighter skin, deeper sleep, better muscle-to-fat ratio.

* Deep sleep is the #1 trigger for GH release
* GH spikes during fasting, intense resistance training, and cold exposure
* Low GH = old-looking face, poor skin healing, stagnant muscle growth



Natural maxxing protocol:

* Sleep 7.5–9 hrs in a dark room (blackout, cold)
* Fast for 16–24 hours 2x per week
* L-Arginine + L-Ornithine pre-bed = GH precursors
* No food 2 hrs before sleep = better nocturnal GH pulse


Weight Loss-Independent Changes in Human Growth Hormone

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3127426/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39991046/

---

Neuroendocrine maxxing isn’t cope. It’s the highest-tier blackpill.

Copium

 

[asinabuser]

Most men on this forum aren’t subhuman because of their bones.
They’re subhuman because their neuroendocrine axis is completely wrecked.

You’re not unattractive.
You’re inflamed, insulin-resistant, chronically sleep-deprived, estrogen-dominant, and addicted to artificial dopamine.

Plastic surgery won’t save you if your bloodwork looks like a 70-year-old man.
This is a breakdown of what 99% of “hardcases” on this forum need before even considering looksmaxxing.

---



1. Cortisol: The Silent Mugger of Your Face

High cortisol is facial suicide. It kills collagen, bloats the face, and erases your testosterone.

*Chronically elevated cortisol = shallow skin, dark circles, bloated jawline.
* Catabolizes muscle tissue (including facial muscles = hollow cheeks, weak jaw)
* Suppresses natural testosterone and growth hormone production
* Triggers insulin resistance → more facial fat retention


Fix your circadian rhythm.
* 30 min of sunlight within 1 hour of waking = natural cortisol spike
* No blue light after 8 PM
* Cold showers blunt cortisol spikes (PubMed: 26721873)
* Ashwagandha 600mg daily (clinically shown to reduce cortisol by 23–30%)

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33946465/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31517876/https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6979308/
---



*2. Dopamine: The Reason You Have Dead Eyes and Zero Discipline*

Porn, TikTok, sugaryour dopamine receptors are fried.
Low dopamine = low motivation, low discipline, poor posture, dead social energy.

You can’t looksmax with a burnt-out reward system.


*Dopamine is linked to testosterone and facial tension
*It drives posture, presence, and energy (things women detect instantly)
*Low dopamine also means low serotonin, which affects skin healing and mood stability


*Rebuild your baseline:*

* Dopamine detox (no porn, no social media for 30 days)
* L-Tyrosine 1g/day = dopamine precursor (source: *Neuropsychologia, 1999*)
* Deep focus > shallow stimuli (literally rewires your frontal cortex)
* 1 hour walk in nature = dopamine, BDNF, and serotonin boost

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26424423/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25797188/

---



3. Testosterone: The Foundational Aesthetic Hormone

T isn’t just about libido or aggression.
It dictates bone density, skin texture, facial hair, and even scent.

The average male’s testosterone has dropped over 40% in the past 4 decades (source: Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism).

LOW T=

* Puffy face
* Weak bone remodeling
* Poor healing and inflammation
* No frame, no drive

Fix:

* Lift heavy (especially squats, deadlifts)
* Zinc, magnesium, and boron = proven micronutrients to boost free T
* Tongkat Ali (200–400 mg/day) – raises free T by 37% (PubMed: 23754780)
* Avoid plastics, seed oils, and soy (xenoestrogens ruin endocrine function)

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17062768/https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32151259/
---


4. Insulin Resistance: The Real Reason You Have a Fat Face

Facial aesthetics depend on fat distribution.
If you have puffy cheeks, a double chin, or deep acne it’s almost always insulin-related.

* High blood sugar = chronic inflammation
* Insulin resistance = poor collagen formation, poor skin turnover
* Most guys today are prediabetic and don’t even know it

Fix

* 18:6 intermittent fasting
* Walk after every meal (improves insulin by 40–50%)
* Eliminate seed oils, sugars, refined carbs
* Berberine 500mg 2x/day = same effect as metformin (PubMed: 18442638)

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23808999/https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3310165/

---


5. Natural maxxing protocol:


GH = tighter skin, deeper sleep, better muscle-to-fat ratio.

* Deep sleep is the #1 trigger for GH release
* GH spikes during fasting, intense resistance training, and cold exposure
* Low GH = old-looking face, poor skin healing, stagnant muscle growth



Natural maxxing protocol:

* Sleep 7.5–9 hrs in a dark room (blackout, cold)
* Fast for 16–24 hours 2x per week
* L-Arginine + L-Ornithine pre-bed = GH precursors
* No food 2 hrs before sleep = better nocturnal GH pulse


Weight Loss-Independent Changes in Human Growth Hormone

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3127426/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39991046/

---

Neuroendocrine maxxing isn’t cope. It’s the highest-tier blackpill.

not taking advice from you bro <3 atleast give credits to chatgpt

 

[pahadi mogger]

Most men on this forum aren’t subhuman because of their bones.
They’re subhuman because their neuroendocrine axis is completely wrecked.

You’re not unattractive.
You’re inflamed, insulin-resistant, chronically sleep-deprived, estrogen-dominant, and addicted to artificial dopamine.

Plastic surgery won’t save you if your bloodwork looks like a 70-year-old man.
This is a breakdown of what 99% of “hardcases” on this forum need before even considering looksmaxxing.

---



1. Cortisol: The Silent Mugger of Your Face

High cortisol is facial suicide. It kills collagen, bloats the face, and erases your testosterone.

*Chronically elevated cortisol = shallow skin, dark circles, bloated jawline.
* Catabolizes muscle tissue (including facial muscles = hollow cheeks, weak jaw)
* Suppresses natural testosterone and growth hormone production
* Triggers insulin resistance → more facial fat retention


Fix your circadian rhythm.
* 30 min of sunlight within 1 hour of waking = natural cortisol spike
* No blue light after 8 PM
* Cold showers blunt cortisol spikes (PubMed: 26721873)
* Ashwagandha 600mg daily (clinically shown to reduce cortisol by 23–30%)

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33946465/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31517876/https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6979308/
---



*2. Dopamine: The Reason You Have Dead Eyes and Zero Discipline*

Porn, TikTok, sugaryour dopamine receptors are fried.
Low dopamine = low motivation, low discipline, poor posture, dead social energy.

You can’t looksmax with a burnt-out reward system.


*Dopamine is linked to testosterone and facial tension
*It drives posture, presence, and energy (things women detect instantly)
*Low dopamine also means low serotonin, which affects skin healing and mood stability


*Rebuild your baseline:*

* Dopamine detox (no porn, no social media for 30 days)
* L-Tyrosine 1g/day = dopamine precursor (source: *Neuropsychologia, 1999*)
* Deep focus > shallow stimuli (literally rewires your frontal cortex)
* 1 hour walk in nature = dopamine, BDNF, and serotonin boost

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26424423/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25797188/

---



3. Testosterone: The Foundational Aesthetic Hormone

T isn’t just about libido or aggression.
It dictates bone density, skin texture, facial hair, and even scent.

The average male’s testosterone has dropped over 40% in the past 4 decades (source: Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism).

LOW T=

* Puffy face
* Weak bone remodeling
* Poor healing and inflammation
* No frame, no drive

Fix:

* Lift heavy (especially squats, deadlifts)
* Zinc, magnesium, and boron = proven micronutrients to boost free T
* Tongkat Ali (200–400 mg/day) – raises free T by 37% (PubMed: 23754780)
* Avoid plastics, seed oils, and soy (xenoestrogens ruin endocrine function)

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17062768/https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32151259/
---


4. Insulin Resistance: The Real Reason You Have a Fat Face

Facial aesthetics depend on fat distribution.
If you have puffy cheeks, a double chin, or deep acne it’s almost always insulin-related.

* High blood sugar = chronic inflammation
* Insulin resistance = poor collagen formation, poor skin turnover
* Most guys today are prediabetic and don’t even know it

Fix

* 18:6 intermittent fasting
* Walk after every meal (improves insulin by 40–50%)
* Eliminate seed oils, sugars, refined carbs
* Berberine 500mg 2x/day = same effect as metformin (PubMed: 18442638)

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23808999/https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3310165/

---


5. Natural maxxing protocol:


GH = tighter skin, deeper sleep, better muscle-to-fat ratio.

* Deep sleep is the #1 trigger for GH release
* GH spikes during fasting, intense resistance training, and cold exposure
* Low GH = old-looking face, poor skin healing, stagnant muscle growth



Natural maxxing protocol:

* Sleep 7.5–9 hrs in a dark room (blackout, cold)
* Fast for 16–24 hours 2x per week
* L-Arginine + L-Ornithine pre-bed = GH precursors
* No food 2 hrs before sleep = better nocturnal GH pulse


Weight Loss-Independent Changes in Human Growth Hormone

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3127426/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39991046/

---

Neuroendocrine maxxing isn’t cope. It’s the highest-tier blackpill.

water

 

[Zanecels.]

View attachment 3697537 not taking advice from you bro <3 atleast give credits to chatgpt

Right, cz only an AI could ever make a valid point mbhai

 

[Zanecels.]

Copium

sybau gang

 

[Zanecels.]

water

Deep, Truly adds to the conversation