Most people UNDERESTIMATE average east asian IQ. Mean intelligence of 4 858 chinese six-year-olds was 116.

[sibience]

"Evidence has accumulated to suggest that the mean IQs of Orientals in the United States and in the countries of the Pacific Basin are higher than those of Whites (Caucasoids) in the United States and Britain. This paper presents evidence from IQ tests on 4858 6-year-old Chinese children in Hong Kong. On the Coloured Progressive Matrices these children obtained a mean IQ of 116. Samples from Australia, Czechoslovakia, Germany, Romania, the UK and the US obtain IQs in the range 95–102. It is suggested that these results pose difficulties for the environmentalist explanations commonly advanced to explain the low mean IQs obtained by some ethnic minorities in the United States."


Source: https://www.cambridge.org/core/jour...in-hong-kong/7BC20126DD16788CB8DEA769AEC8C6A4


IQ testing at lower ages are more accurate for determining genetic intelligence. A 6 year old's cognitive skills and his ability to learn will be influenced by his genetic IQ.

Average east asian IQ is over 1 standard deviation above the mean. Most people think that east asian IQ is barely above whites, but that isn't true.

 

[Razeb]

CCP propaganda

 

[Cidre enjoyer]

IQ testing at lower ages are more accurate for determining genetic intelligence. A 6 year old's cognitive skills and his ability to learn will be influenced by his genetic IQ.

Dont Care about the rest but it's the exact opposite
Read about Wilson effect

 

[Maximilian]

brutal, there must be a lot of children who realize that it's over before they hit puberty.

 

[;-;]

CCP propaganda

 

[;-;]

china managed to fool the entire world into thinking that the covid came from a bat, even thought they had a level 4 security genome/virology laboratory in wuhan, let alone manipulate some iq tests results

 

[rapidinshallah]

brutal, there must be a lot of children who realize that it's over before they hit puberty.

IQ changes greatly during puberty. It can increase or decrease by 30 points.
Just like height, your IQ is a matter of genetic expression. You can't make an accurate estimate of one's actual height before they enter puberty, you can only make guesses.

 

[Deleted member 26859]

if east asians are really so smart

then why do

whites have better countries in every measurable aspect

whites earn more money

whites produce the most innovations

whites are way ahead in technology and had to spoonfeed asians to get their current technology

whites produce like 98% of nobel prizes and east asians have so little despite whites being only a tiny % of the world

 

[sibience]

Dont Care about the rest but it's the exact opposite
Read about Wilson effect

But that is talking about the heritability being very accurate only after maturity.

I'm showing the biological and genetic differences at a young age, which is genetic biologically but not necessarily relating to heritability.

 

[Shycel]

Over

 

[aspiringexcel]

Over for non light yagami and L asians

 

[Deleted member 13787]

Over for non light yagami and L asians

L is mostly white

 

[aspiringexcel]

L is mostly white

Nigga im talking about an anime character

 

[Deleted member 13787]

Nigga im talking about an anime character

Yeah. He is mostly white.

 

[sibience]

whites have better countries in every measurable aspect

Exploitation and threat. But I do believe that this isn't a bad thing, it is the reason why the west have been very powerful.

whites produce the most innovations

whites are way ahead in technology and had to spoonfeed asians to get their current technology

whites produce like 98% of nobel prizes and east asians have so little despite whites being only a tiny % of the world

This is just false LOL. The nobel prize is just a jewish and white circlejerk. The reason the nobel prize is so prestigious is because Jews are in charge of all the media, banks, and therefore governments so they always use media to praise the nobel prize that they award to themselves, it is a shit award.

Asian technology is ahead of whites lol. Especially when it comes to AI. JFL that your name is AI Impact but you don't understand this

 

[aspiringexcel]

Yeah. He is mostly white.

White? Maybe in mumbai.

Even in the live action of death note he was a jap.

 

[Deleted member 13787]

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White? Maybe in mumbai.

Even in the live action of death note he was a jap.

Everyone was japanese in the live action one in japan, despite death note having non japanese characters.

They made him black in the american version.

But he's literally from england and his name is english. And the creator said he's 75% white. So canonically he is mostly white. And he iqmogs light yagami, so yeah, total aryan victory once again.

 

[sibience]

IQ changes greatly during puberty. It can increase or decrease by 30 points.
Just like height, your IQ is a matter of genetic expression. You can't make an accurate estimate of one's actual height before they enter puberty, you can only make guesses.

IQ in maturity is more accurate to the parents IQ (the heritability of the IQ becomes more accurate).

But I am talking about biological (race) differences, which can be studied in early childhood. It has been proven that asians on average have larger brains throughout their entire life (a biological difference).

 

[fauxfox]

This is due to centuries of examination. No other race has undergone such extreme genetic selection for intelligence.

 

[aspiringexcel]

Everyone was japanese in the live action one in japan, despite death note having non japanese characters.

They made him black in the american version.

But he's literally from england and his name is english. And the creator said he's 75% white. So canonically he is mostly white. And he iqmogs light yagami, so yeah, total aryan victory once again.

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If hes only 25% japanese why did they make him look fully japanese wtf.

How low iq was that ohba nigga?

However light yagami mogs L as he had misa, was NTmaxxed and looksmaxxed while L was an incel detective that bloatmaxxed with sweets

 

[Deleted member 27511]

"Evidence has accumulated to suggest that the mean IQs of Orientals in the United States and in the countries of the Pacific Basin are higher than those of Whites (Caucasoids) in the United States and Britain. This paper presents evidence from IQ tests on 4858 6-year-old Chinese children in Hong Kong. On the Coloured Progressive Matrices these children obtained a mean IQ of 116. Samples from Australia, Czechoslovakia, Germany, Romania, the UK and the US obtain IQs in the range 95–102. It is suggested that these results pose difficulties for the environmentalist explanations commonly advanced to explain the low mean IQs obtained by some ethnic minorities in the United States."


Source: https://www.cambridge.org/core/jour...in-hong-kong/7BC20126DD16788CB8DEA769AEC8C6A4


IQ testing at lower ages are more accurate for determining genetic intelligence. A 6 year old's cognitive skills and his ability to learn will be influenced by his genetic IQ.

Average east asian IQ is over 1 standard deviation above the mean. Most people think that east asian IQ is barely above whites, but that isn't true.

Why does it contradict previous studies which have been done showing Asians have iqs of 103-106. I suspect it’s likley due to the Wilson effect, previous studies were done on adults not children to my knowledge.

 

[Deleted member 13787]

If hes only 25% japanese why did they make him look fully japanese wtf.

He doesn't look fully japanese. Jap people are dark like bolivians and L is pale as fuck. Also his eyes are diff from the jap characters.

However light yagami mogs L as he had misa, was NTmaxxed and looksmaxxed while L was an incel detective that bloatmaxxed with sweets

L iqmogs hard

 

[Deleted member 26859]

Exploitation and threat. But I do believe that this isn't a bad thing, it is the reason why the west have been very powerful.



This is just false LOL. The nobel prize is just a jewish and white circlejerk. The reason the nobel prize is so prestigious is because Jews are in charge of all the media, banks, and therefore governments so they always use media to praise the nobel prize that they award to themselves, it is a shit award.

Asian technology is ahead of whites lol. Especially when it comes to AI. JFL that your name is AI Impact but you don't understand this

coping hard, asians try to get nobel prizes but they're just too stupid

and what lol? white is way ahead in technology, in fact east asians literally pay whites to come there so they can learn from them in their technology companies and theres shit loads of patents etc on the main technologies from whites

and what? whites are way ahead. no one has even heard of any asian AI.

all the biggest AI companies are white owned companies and they're building/have built moats that no one will be able to surpass

 

[sibience]

Why does it contradict previous studies which have been done showing Asians have iqs of 103-106. I suspect it’s likley due to the Wilson effect, previous studies were done on adults not children to my knowledge.

IQ in maturity is more accurate to the parents IQ (the heritability of the IQ becomes more accurate).

But I am talking about biological (race) differences, which can be studied in early childhood. It has been proven that asians on average have larger brains throughout their entire life (a biological difference).

 

[Deleted member 23558]

Over

Holy shit @Gonthar you ruthless bastard! thats not kawaii

 

[Deleted member 27511]

@sibience its already proven that Asians have higher iqs but using childhood iqs isn’t as accurate at measuring because of the Wilson effect. Iqs of adult Asians are usually 103-106 which isn’t significantly above the white mean.

 

[mecha72]

No iq for manlets

 

[sibience]

This is due to centuries of examination. No other race has undergone such extreme genetic selection for intelligence.

Or it could just be due to the founder effect (the first east asians had higher IQ due to genetic differences, so all descendants will also have similar). Genetic selection can be moderately effective but regression towards the mean is the reason it is almost impossible to have a society of geniuses.

coping hard, asians try to get nobel prizes but they're just too stupid

and what lol? white is way ahead in technology, in fact east asians literally pay whites to come there so they can learn from them in their technology companies and theres shit loads of patents etc on the main technologies from whites

and what? whites are way ahead. no one has even heard of any asian AI.

all the biggest AI companies are white owned companies and they're building/have built moats that no one will be able to surpass

All of the biggest AI companies in the west have the same types of AI companies in the east. And even better ones that the west just aren't able to replicate.

And in the west all the asians are developing the AI infrastructures and systems. Asians in the west are the only reason technology is even remotely near as good as the east.

 

[Featherless Biped]

"Evidence has accumulated to suggest that the mean IQs of Orientals in the United States and in the countries of the Pacific Basin are higher than those of Whites (Caucasoids) in the United States and Britain. This paper presents evidence from IQ tests on 4858 6-year-old Chinese children in Hong Kong. On the Coloured Progressive Matrices these children obtained a mean IQ of 116. Samples from Australia, Czechoslovakia, Germany, Romania, the UK and the US obtain IQs in the range 95–102. It is suggested that these results pose difficulties for the environmentalist explanations commonly advanced to explain the low mean IQs obtained by some ethnic minorities in the United States."


Source: https://www.cambridge.org/core/jour...in-hong-kong/7BC20126DD16788CB8DEA769AEC8C6A4


IQ testing at lower ages are more accurate for determining genetic intelligence. A 6 year old's cognitive skills and his ability to learn will be influenced by his genetic IQ.

Average east asian IQ is over 1 standard deviation above the mean. Most people think that east asian IQ is barely above whites, but that isn't true

Asians are so smart they take Lego courses

 

[sibience]

@sibience its already proven that Asians have higher iqs but using childhood iqs isn’t as accurate at measuring because of the Wilson effect. Iqs of adult Asians are usually 103-106 which isn’t significantly above the white mean.

IQ tests have culture based questions. The same IQ tests that are studied on east asians are the ones that whites use on themselves.

It is a meme to give a verbal IQ test designed for whites to an east asian.

And testing IQ at earlier ages is to show biological differences in IQ, NOT heritable. So the Wilson effect does not apply, because we are only testing the kids IQ for race average, not IQ to compare with parents.

 

[Deleted member 26859]

Or it could just be due to the founder effect (the first east asians had higher IQ due to genetic differences, so all descendants will also have similar). Genetic selection can be moderately effective but regression towards the mean is the reason it is almost impossible to have a society of geniuses.



All of the biggest AI companies in the west have the same types of AI companies in the east. And even better ones that the west just aren't able to replicate.

And in the west all the asians are developing the AI infrastructures and systems. Asians in the west are the only reason technology is even remotely near as good as the east.

just a complete and utter fantasy. the leading ai companies are white ones

 

[sibience]

just a complete and utter fantasy. the leading ai companies are white ones

In prestige, people think that way. People think apple is great because of reputation and prestige, but in innovation and technology they are shit in 2023.

The east has driverless taxis, yandex and baidu are more advanced than google, AI is just more advanced in general. Google and western tech companies are only "leading" just like how people think apple is leading. It isn't, it is only based on prestige, their innovation is shit.

 

[Deleted member 27511]

It is a meme to give a verbal IQ test designed for whites to an east asian.

I agree that’s why non verbal tests exists

And testing IQ at earlier ages is to show biological differences in IQ, NOT heritable. So the Wilson effect does not apply, because we are only testing the kids IQ for race average, not IQ to compare with parents.

Testing at early ages is to show biological differences in iq isnt as accurate as testing in adults because iqs are more susceptible to environments when you’re a child.

So the Wilson effect does apply unless you’ve somehow controlled for every factor between white and Asian children which this study clearly didn’t.

You’re coping hard, if what you’re saying is right then why aren’t the iqs of Asian adults 116?

 

[Deleted member 27511]

just a complete and utter fantasy. the leading ai companies are white ones

You’re coping about this one Asians are making the best developments in ai it’s not even close

 

[klip11]

"Evidence has accumulated to suggest that the mean IQs of Orientals in the United States and in the countries of the Pacific Basin are higher than those of Whites (Caucasoids) in the United States and Britain. This paper presents evidence from IQ tests on 4858 6-year-old Chinese children in Hong Kong. On the Coloured Progressive Matrices these children obtained a mean IQ of 116. Samples from Australia, Czechoslovakia, Germany, Romania, the UK and the US obtain IQs in the range 95–102. It is suggested that these results pose difficulties for the environmentalist explanations commonly advanced to explain the low mean IQs obtained by some ethnic minorities in the United States."


Source: https://www.cambridge.org/core/jour...in-hong-kong/7BC20126DD16788CB8DEA769AEC8C6A4


IQ testing at lower ages are more accurate for determining genetic intelligence. A 6 year old's cognitive skills and his ability to learn will be influenced by his genetic IQ.

Average east asian IQ is over 1 standard deviation above the mean. Most people think that east asian IQ is barely above whites, but that isn't true.

Haitian babies IQmog them

 

[sibience]

I agree that’s why non verbal tests exists


Testing at early ages is to show biological differences in iq isnt as accurate as testing in adults because iqs are more susceptible to environments when you’re a child.

So the Wilson effect does apply unless you’ve somehow controlled for every factor between white and Asian children which this study clearly didn’t.

You’re coping hard, if what you’re saying is right then why aren’t the iqs of Asian adults 116?

But the problem is that very young children aren't really influenced by environment. You can't teach a 5 year old if they don't have the cognition for it. Cognitive ability at a young age is very little about environment and mostly about genetics, that is why early age is used to control for many factors.

Are the IQs for asian adults around 115 (1 SD above mean)? I think it is. Global mathematics and programming competitions are mostly just asians competing against each other. If asians were only 5 points higher, there wouldn't be much difference in bell curve distribution, and there would be much more whites in these competitions.

But if you compare averages against asians and whites in white countries, I still think asian adults have 115 on average:

This looks like a much bigger difference than 5 IQ points. Although I never took this test I'm not in the United States of America. But I think every 18 adult there takes it so it is a good sample for averages.

 

[horizontallytall]

coping hard, asians try to get nobel prizes but they're just too stupid

and what lol? white is way ahead in technology, in fact east asians literally pay whites to come there so they can learn from them in their technology companies and theres shit loads of patents etc on the main technologies from whites

and what? whites are way ahead. no one has even heard of any asian AI.

all the biggest AI companies are white owned companies and they're building/have built moats that no one will be able to surpass

U know that iq definition has been manipulated by normies. High iq is useless . Thats differnt then high visual iq which whites have a lot. Coupled in autism u get this forum . Although a lot of people here are from different ethnicities nice to seeno one discriminates

 

[Deleted member 25938]

whites produce like 98% of nobel prizes and east asians have so little despite whites being only a tiny % of the world

This doesn't really have much to do with solely IQ, let alone the IQ of any specific race.

There is an educational component regarding what countries are more likely to have Nobel Prize winners. Nobel laureates tend to be within the higher education community, and the US by far has the most top universities in the world. And the majority of the countries with the most amount of Nobel Prize winners --- namely, the UK, France, Germany, and Japan --- all have or have had their share of top institutions too.

There's also a cultural component that's also intertwined with the educational aspect of it. The Nobel Prize is awarded to an individual, so inherently the organization seeks out individuality. Asian countries are more hive-minded in general, so their efforts are less likely to be channeled by one individual for their own efforts and goals as opposed to contributing to society at large. On the other hand, Western countries are more individualistic in nature, so the implementation of their culture will be what the Nobel Organization is looking for when awarding prizes.

This is reinforced by the fact that the distribution of IQ in the East and West are not identical. While East Asian countries tend to display a higher median IQ with minimal extremes on either side of the curve, Western countries (and especially the US) tend to have greater extremes, with more really dumb people and more really smart people. It is this inherent possession that also makes Western countries more likely to have Nobel Prize winners. On top of that, the higher education sphere has a disportionately large immigrant population --- very smart immigrants --- which creates a double whammy effect because these individuals tend to be bolder, individualistic, and just more intelligent than the the general population (which is a product of the nature of emigration as leaving your home culture and going against the grain, as well as requiring survivability traits in the new country). This combination also contributes to more Nobel Prizes being made. And where do people immigrate? The West, not Asian countries.

Furthermore, there's a historical component to all of this. The Nobel Prize has been around since the 1890s. They didn't care about inclusivity, nor did they really know about what was happening in Asia. The Nobel Prize was historically Eurocentric (because it was in Europe), and I don't really know if they'd bother to give the award to a "chink," "gook," whatever you want to call 'em.

 

[sibience]

This doesn't really have much to do with solely IQ, let alone the IQ of any specific race.

There is an educational component regarding what countries are more likely to have Nobel Prize winners. Nobel laureates tend to be within the higher education community, and the US by far has the most top universities in the world. And the majority of the countries with the most amount of Nobel Prize winners --- namely, the UK, France, Germany, and Japan --- all have or have had their share of top institutions too.

There's also a cultural component that's also intertwined with the educational aspect of it. The Nobel Prize is awarded to an individual, so inherently the organization seeks out individuality. Asian countries are more hive-minded in general, so their efforts are less likely to be channeled by one individual for their own efforts and goals as opposed to contributing to society at large. On the other hand, Western countries are more individualistic in nature, so the implementation of their culture will be what the Nobel Organization is looking for when awarding prizes.

This is reinforced by the fact that the distribution of IQ in the East and West are not identical. While East Asian countries tend to display a higher median IQ with minimal extremes on either side of the curve, Western countries (and especially the US) tend to have greater extremes, with more really dumb people and more really smart people. It is this inherent possession that also makes Western countries more likely to have Nobel Prize winners. On top of that, the higher education sphere has a disportionately large immigrant population --- very smart immigrants --- which creates a double whammy effect because these individuals tend to be bolder, individualistic, and just more intelligent than the the general population (which is a product of the nature of emigration as leaving your home culture and going against the grain, as well as requiring survivability traits in the new country). This combination also contributes to more Nobel Prizes being made. And where do people immigrate? The West, not Asian countries.

Furthermore, there's a historical component to all of this. The Nobel Prize has been around since the 1890s. They didn't care about inclusivity, nor did they really know about what was happening in Asia. The Nobel Prize was historically Eurocentric (because it was in Europe), and I don't really know if they'd bother to give the award to a "chink," "gook," whatever you want to call 'em.

No lol it is just because the jews own the nobel prize and award it to themselves. And media which is also jewish promotes the nobel prize as the greatest achievement possible.

People here aren't jewpilled enough.

 

[Deleted member 25938]

No lol it is just because the jews own the nobel prize and award it to themselves. And media which is also jewish promotes the nobel prize as the greatest achievement in history.

People here aren't jewpilled enough.

It's a combination of both imo. And I was primarily responding to @Ai Impact's assertion specifically regarding Asians.

 

[sibience]

It's a combination of both imo. And I was primarily responding to @Ai Impact's assertion specifically regarding Asians.

No, many breakthroughs and amazing discoveries have been by chinese scientists, why did they not receieve anything? Because the jews decide what is great and what is important.

A chinese company can give an award to great scientists, but the award doesn't have prestige because chinese people don't have much power and media dominance over the world. Jews that so much power that they literally can change anything they want.

 

[Deleted member 27511]

But the problem is that very young children aren't really influenced by environment. You can't teach a 5 year old if they don't have the cognition for it. Cognitive ability at a young age is very little about environment and mostly about genetics, that is why early age is used to control for many factors.

Alright we’re getting no where with this, there’s one easy way to settle who’s right. If what you’re saying is true asian adults should have iqs which are around 115 if what I’m saying is true this shouldn’t be the case.

Are the IQs for asian adults around 115 (1 SD above mean)? I think it is. Global mathematics and programming competitions are mostly just asians competing against each other. If asians were only 5 points higher, there wouldn't be much difference in bell curve distribution, and there would be much more whites in these competitions.

But if you compare averages against asians and whites in white countries, I still think asian adults have 115 on average

Or instead of looking at SAT scores and estimating iq for that you could just you know measure the iqs of Asians? And when we measure the iqs of adult Asians it’s no where near 115. I could be wrong on this but please show me a single study in which adult Asians have iqs of 115.

You know there are groups which have iqs a standard deviation above whites? Jews and Indian Americans.

 

[Deleted member 27511]

Because the jews decide what is great and what is important.

That’s a cope, Jews aren’t the ones preventing Asians from getting the Nobel prizes.

 

[Deleted member 25938]

No, many breakthroughs and amazing discoveries have been by chinese scientists, why did they not receieve anything? Because the jews decide what is great and what is important.

"I am great, I am important."

 

[sibience]

That’s a cope, Jews aren’t the ones preventing Asians from getting the Nobel prizes.

"I am great, I am important."
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Why are the few asian Nobel laureates asians who just happen to be at western universities?

Even though eastern universities have many better discoveries..... But why do those scientists not receive any nobel prize?


It's almost as if the Nobel Committee that chooses who gets the nobel prizes is composed of....

It's almost as if the western media that promotes the nobel prize, making it seem as if it is the greatest achievement and it is meritocratic is....

 

[Deleted member 25938]

Priceless image.

 

[Deleted member 27511]

Even though eastern universities have many better discoveries..... But why do those scientists not receive any awards?

Because the Nobel prize is discriminatory against Asians and really just non whites in general. The best thing you can do is create you’re own prizes

 

[dakchuh]

This doesn't really have much to do with solely IQ, let alone the IQ of any specific race.

There is an educational component regarding what countries are more likely to have Nobel Prize winners. Nobel laureates tend to be within the higher education community, and the US by far has the most top universities in the world. And the majority of the countries with the most amount of Nobel Prize winners --- namely, the UK, France, Germany, and Japan --- all have or have had their share of top institutions too.

There's also a cultural component that's also intertwined with the educational aspect of it. The Nobel Prize is awarded to an individual, so inherently the organization seeks out individuality. Asian countries are more hive-minded in general, so their efforts are less likely to be channeled by one individual for their own efforts and goals as opposed to contributing to society at large. On the other hand, Western countries are more individualistic in nature, so the implementation of their culture will be what the Nobel Organization is looking for when awarding prizes.

This is reinforced by the fact that the distribution of IQ in the East and West are not identical. While East Asian countries tend to display a higher median IQ with minimal extremes on either side of the curve, Western countries (and especially the US) tend to have greater extremes, with more really dumb people and more really smart people. It is this inherent possession that also makes Western countries more likely to have Nobel Prize winners. On top of that, the higher education sphere has a disportionately large immigrant population --- very smart immigrants --- which creates a double whammy effect because these individuals tend to be bolder, individualistic, and just more intelligent than the the general population (which is a product of the nature of emigration as leaving your home culture and going against the grain, as well as requiring survivability traits in the new country). This combination also contributes to more Nobel Prizes being made. And where do people immigrate? The West, not Asian countries.

Furthermore, there's a historical component to all of this. The Nobel Prize has been around since the 1890s. They didn't care about inclusivity, nor did they really know about what was happening in Asia. The Nobel Prize was historically Eurocentric (because it was in Europe), and I don't really know if they'd bother to give the award to a "chink," "gook," whatever you want to call 'em.

jfl at responding to a sfcel seriously

 

[Deleted member 25938]

jfl at responding to a sfcel seriously

 

[sibience]

Or instead of looking at SAT scores and estimating iq for that you could just you know measure the iqs of Asians? And when we measure the iqs of adult Asians it’s no where near 115. I could be wrong on this but please show me a single study in which adult Asians have iqs of 115.

You know there are groups which have iqs a standard deviation above whites? Jews and Indian Americans.

If jews and Indian Americans are higher IQ than asians, that would go against reality.

If Jews actually have 1 standard deviation bell curve distribution above whites and east asians on average have 105, then you would barely see any asians in mathematics, science, and programming contests and you would see mostly jews in them with maybe the rare asian.