most retarded video goatis ever made

[Incelforeever]

This dude thinks u can pull weapons out ur ass in nature. "In nature u dont know what the oppenant is gonna do" stfu. Even if u use weapons, martial art mechanics still apply. U use ur hips to generate force and u dodge or block the oppenants attack. What a retard i wanna see him an amature fighter in any setting he wants, that would be enertaining

 

[silently_said]

 

[Gargantuan]

He's largely right, and biomechanics aren't the point here.

Combat sports are a closed system with fixed rules, known targets, mutual restraints, and predictable techniques.
That’s why you can read your opponents, anyone who has ever trained in combat sports will tell you this.

But natural violence is a whole different ballgame, as it is an open system with no rules, no agreements, massive asymmetry and you also have to factor in the environment (no fixed setting), tools, and possibly the element of surprise, among many other factors.

Training for a rule-bound game doesn’t automatically carry over once the rules disappear.

 

[Incelforeever]

He's largely right, and biomechanics aren't the point here.

Combat sports are a closed system with fixed rules, known targets, mutual restraints, and predictable techniques.
That’s why you can read your opponents, anyone who has ever trained in combat sports will tell you this.

But natural violence is a whole different ballgame, as it is an open system with no rules, no agreements, massive asymmetry and you also have to factor in the environment (no fixed setting), tools, and possibly the element of surprise, among many other factors.

Training for a rule-bound game doesn’t automatically carry over once the rules disappear.

And whos gonna be better at "natural" violence? His claim is that punches and kicks are unnatural and not efficant in a real natural fight jfl. what is he gonna do in a real natural fight against somebody who practiced a martial art lets say kickboxing? If hes gonna bring a weapon of some sort and the kickboxer is gonna bring a weapon the kickboxer is still gonna win because striking martial arts are all about transferring force through the hips, which is the most natural and efficant way to transfer force. He has no idea how to do it properly cuz he never trained, therfore the martial artist will knock him out in a cage with rules and kill him in a real fight

 

[mirinorbitals]

This dude thinks u can pull weapons out ur ass in nature. "In nature u dont know what the oppenant is gonna do" stfu. Even if u use weapons, martial art mechanics still apply. U use ur hips to generate force and u dodge or block the oppenants attack. What a retard i wanna see him an amature fighter in any setting he wants, that would be enertaining

He's a larp, but sometimes he says smart things. This is what gets him money, and his life is 100x less stressful than the average person's. I guess being on the run from INTERPOL has it's benefits

 

[IAMNOTANINCEL]

oh wow, he's doing something he's against and has said a million times doesn't work for fun and is bad at it?
what is even the point of this video

 

[IAMNOTANINCEL]

U use ur hips to generate force and u dodge or block the oppenants attack

generate force to do what? dodge and block what? you are still thinking about punches and kicks lol you are literally delusional
have you actually never seen a wild animal fighting lmao

 

[BigJimsWornOutTires]

And whos gonna be better at "natural" violence? His claim is that punches and kicks are unnatural and not efficant in a real natural fight jfl. what is he gonna do in a real natural fight against somebody who practiced a martial art lets say kickboxing? If hes gonna bring a weapon of some sort and the kickboxer is gonna bring a weapon the kickboxer is still gonna win because striking martial arts are all about transferring force through the hips, which is the most natural and efficant way to transfer force. He has no idea how to do it properly cuz he never trained, therfore the martial artist will knock him out in a cage with rules and kill him in a real fight

Real fighting is using your fingernails, teeth, and feet. Punching and rules in general allow inexperienced fighters the advantage. But sometimes, one might think outside the box.

I knew this street fighter who had no teeth. When confronted by a challenger, he would spit his dentures in the person's face and then attack him. And think about that.

You're getting ready to fight this guy as you jump around and loosen the tension in your hands by flapping them out. "Let's fight motherfucker!" Suddenly, without warning, the feller's teeth come flying at your face. Your mind needs time to process what has just happened. Unfortunately, you don't have enough of that, and he is now clawing your neck.

A minute later, you're on the ground shivering as you press your hand against your neck because he ripped a chunk of it out with his sharp fingernails.

 

[Incelforeever]

generate force to do what? dodge and block what? you are still thinking about punches and kicks lol you are literally delusional
have you actually never seen a wild animal fighting lmao

Generate force to kill u u moron. U can fight like an animal all u want u stupid retard, a trained fighter would laugh at u and kill u while u do ur best bear impression

 

[Gargantuan]

And whos gonna be better at "natural" violence? His claim is that punches and kicks are unnatural and not efficant in a real natural fight jfl. what is he gonna do in a real natural fight against somebody who practiced a martial art lets say kickboxing? If hes gonna bring a weapon of some sort and the kickboxer is gonna bring a weapon the kickboxer is still gonna win because striking martial arts are all about transferring force through the hips, which is the most natural and efficant way to transfer force. He has no idea how to do it properly cuz he never trained, therfore the martial artist will knock him out in a cage with rules and kill him in a real fight

I think his actual point is that punches and kicks simply become low-leverage choices once the fight isn’t constrained.

In an open situation, force transfer isn’t the bottleneck. What decides things there is initiative and control: positioning, creating imbalance, targeting vulnerabilities, numbers, and whatever tools are available.
The idea that the kickboxer wins because of transferring power through the hips assumes the fight collapses into trading punches and kicks when natural fighting doesn’t default to that at all.
It defaults to ambush, disruption, and ending it as quickly as possible before any rhythm can even be established.

Skills optimized for a very specific rule-set don’t scale cleanly once the context disappears.

 

[Incelforeever]

Real fighting is using your fingernails, teeth, and feet. Punching and rules in general allow inexperienced fighters the advantage. But sometimes, one might think outside the box.

I knew this street fighter who had no teeth. When confronted by a challenger, he would spit his dentures in the person's face and then attack him. And think about that.

You're getting ready to fight this guy as you jump around and loosen the tension in your hands by flapping them out. "Let's fight motherfucker!" Suddenly, without warning, the feller's teeth come flying at your face. Your mind needs time to process what has just happened. Unfortunately, you don't have enough of that, and he is now clawing your neck.

A minute later, you're on the ground shivering as you press your hand against your neck because he ripped a chunk of it out with his sharp fingernails.

Sybau honestly. U are getting killed by a professional fighter. U think they don’t have teeth? Thing is they don’t need to bite u they would knock u out before u even think of getting close them

A pro boxer hands are basically registered as lethal weapons, they hit u bare knuckle and u are done for

 

[gymcelld]

you do realise he was been saying this shit since 2018

 

[Incelforeever]

I think his actual point is that punches and kicks simply become low-leverage choices once the fight isn’t constrained.

In an open situation, force transfer isn’t the bottleneck. What decides things there is initiative and control: positioning, creating imbalance, targeting vulnerabilities, numbers, and whatever tools are available.
The idea that the kickboxer wins because of transferring power through the hips assumes the fight collapses into trading punches and kicks when natural fighting doesn’t default to that at all.
It defaults to ambush, disruption, and ending it as quickly as possible before any rhythm can even be established.

Skills optimized for a very specific rule-set don’t scale cleanly once the context disappears.

The point wasn’t even force transfer. U guys use stupid sceneries.

U are in an open field, u walk ahead and u see another dude infront of u. He attackes u out of the blue and his skill level is that of a professional mma fighter in the ufc.

Who wins in ur opinion? Can’t wait to hear this foolishness

 

[Incelforeever]

you do realise he was been saying this shit since 2018

Never made a video as retarded as this as far as I know

 

[gymcelld]

Never made a video as retarded as this as far as I know

nigga doesn’t know about goatis shit posts on his old yt

 

[Incelforeever]

nigga doesn’t know about goatis shit posts on his old yt

So funny

 

[gymcelld]

So funny

Yael sheilba is so overrated bro change your avi mannn

 

[valentine]

 

[Zeuxx]

This dude thinks u can pull weapons out ur ass in nature. "In nature u dont know what the oppenant is gonna do" stfu. Even if u use weapons, martial art mechanics still apply. U use ur hips to generate force and u dodge or block the oppenants attack. What a retard i wanna see him an amature fighter in any setting he wants, that would be enertaining

Big rock

 

[Incelforeever]

Yael sheilba is so overrated bro change your avi mannn

If u say so

 

[gymcelld]

If u say so

Nah she hot but like why she have to be Jewish

 

[Incelforeever]

Nah she hot but like why she have to be Jewish

ask the maker

 

[gymcelld]

ask the maker

Will do bro

 

[GonorrhoeaGobbler]

He's largely right, and biomechanics aren't the point here.

Combat sports are a closed system with fixed rules, known targets, mutual restraints, and predictable techniques.
That’s why you can read your opponents, anyone who has ever trained in combat sports will tell you this.

But natural violence is a whole different ballgame, as it is an open system with no rules, no agreements, massive asymmetry and you also have to factor in the environment (no fixed setting), tools, and possibly the element of surprise, among many other factors.

Training for a rule-bound game doesn’t automatically carry over once the rules disappear.

it's not the dog in the fight but the fight in the dog

there is the physical and mental fight and training only does the first most of the time

it's a great tool but you need to be the right person to use it but these athletes are these types of men that's why they win they are high T warriors.

all of the strats like pocking the eye a trained fighter can do as well and even better than you bc he is stronger and faster

 

[Deleted member 266382]

he admits here that things we humans make (weapons) are natural. which means everything is natural, including goyslop, steroids etc.
so "living natural" is cope. everything that happens is natural

 

[Gargantuan]

The point wasn’t even force transfer. U guys use stupid sceneries.

U are in an open field, u walk ahead and u see another dude infront of u. He attackes u out of the blue and his skill level is that of a professional mma fighter in the ufc.

Who wins in ur opinion? Can’t wait to hear this foolishness

All you’re doing is removing everything that actually makes fighting natural so that it collapses back into a rule-based sport scenario, which is not natural.

An open field with equal awareness, no tools, no element of surprise, no intent asymmetry and no options to escape is just a cage with grass and dirt. Of course the MMA fighter wins there. I've never seen anyone argue against this.
But natural fighting isn’t two guys implicitly agreeing to engage at the same time. What decides it is who initiates, who controls distance, who creates imbalance first, whether tools are involved, whether escape exists, and whether it even turns into a fight at all.

If you have to equalise everything for your example to work, you’re proving the point that this very specific skillset dominates only once reality is simplified through a rule-based (and thus unnatural) sport.

 

[Incelforeever]

R

All you’re doing is removing everything that actually makes fighting natural so that it collapses back into a rule-based sport scenario, which is not natural.

An open field with equal awareness, no tools, no element of surprise, no intent asymmetry and no options to escape is just a cage with grass and dirt. Of course the MMA fighter wins there. I've never seen anyone argue against this.
But natural fighting isn’t two guys implicitly agreeing to engage at the same time. What decides it is who initiates, who controls distance, who creates imbalance first, whether tools are involved, whether escape exists, and whether it even turns into a fight at all.

If you have to equalise everything for your example to work, you’re proving the point that this very specific skillset dominates only once reality is simplified through a rule-based (and thus unnatural) sport.

rule based? There are no rules in the scenario I used. What ur talking about is not even fighting, ur talking about someone planning to assassinate somebody. If a dude gets sucker punched it’s not a fight, u understand that right? A physical fight is when 2 people engage physically with each other not when someone just stabs someone from the back and kills him.

by saying “if it even turns into a fight” u understand ur not really talking about fighting

 

[Gargantuan]

R

rule based? There are no rules in the scenario I used. What ur talking about is not even fighting, ur talking about someone planning to assassinate somebody. If a dude gets sucker punched it’s not a fight, u understand that right? A physical fight is when 2 people engage physically with each other not when someone just stabs someone from the back and kills him.

by saying “if it even turns into a fight” u understand ur not really talking about fighting

You’re defining “real fighting” as a mutual, symmetrical engagement. That in and of itself is already a man-made/sports concept and not natural.

Nature doesn’t care whether you label something as a “fight", an “assassination”, a “sucker punch” or whatever. Those are mere moral categories, not functional ones. The organism itself only cares about the outcome: engage and neutralise the threat or retreat to escape harm.
Calling ambushes or sucker punches “not fighting” is exactly the problem. That boundary only exists in sport and language, not in nature. Outside of sport there’s no referee, no mutual consent, and no moment where violence officially “becomes” a fight. There’s only timing, force, and consequences.

Most real-world violence is decided before it ever resembles the mutual exchange you’re imagining. Your model only works once both parties agree to engage symmetrically, because it’s a sport model, whether you want to call it that or not.

 

[Incelforeever]

You’re defining “real fighting” as a mutual, symmetrical engagement. That in and of itself is already a man-made/sports concept and not natural.

Nature doesn’t care whether you label something as a “fight", an “assassination”, a “sucker punch” or whatever. Those are mere moral categories, not functional ones. The organism itself only cares about the outcome: engage and neutralise the threat or retreat to escape harm.
Calling ambushes or sucker punches “not fighting” is exactly the problem. That boundary only exists in sport and language, not in nature. Outside of sport there’s no referee, no mutual consent, and no moment where violence officially “becomes” a fight. There’s only timing, force, and consequences.

Most real-world violence is decided before it ever resembles the mutual exchange you’re imagining. Your model only works once both parties agree to engage symmetrically, because it’s a sport model, whether you want to call it that or not.

Ur not talking about fighting

 

[Clark69]

him talking about fighting is always funny because he recorded lana's cousin beating the fuck out of him, then showed the bruises and wounds on pateron

 

[Incelforeever]

him talking about fighting is always funny because he recorded lana's cousin beating the fuck out of him, then showed the bruises and wounds on pateron

Yea I saw that, ig her cousin is a better natural fighter than goatis

 

[StellaFanboy]

He's largely right, and biomechanics aren't the point here.

Combat sports are a closed system with fixed rules, known targets, mutual restraints, and predictable techniques.
That’s why you can read your opponents, anyone who has ever trained in combat sports will tell you this.

But natural violence is a whole different ballgame, as it is an open system with no rules, no agreements, massive asymmetry and you also have to factor in the environment (no fixed setting), tools, and possibly the element of surprise, among many other factors.

Training for a rule-bound game doesn’t automatically carry over once the rules disappear.

exactly, even when watching how a dog attacks, he just runs into you and grabs your arm with his mouth and doesnt let it go, no fighting technique overrides a wild way of fighting and attacking

 

[StellaFanboy]

Imagine an alligator grabbing your arm and deathrolling you, and then you cry how its not fair hahahahahhahahahah

 

[Incelforeever]

exactly, even when watching how a dog attacks, he just runs into you and grabs your arm with his mouth and doesnt let it go, no fighting technique overrides a wild way of fighting and attacking

Another retard. Good luck biting me when i elbow ur teeth off u moron. And dont compare a dog to human, we got hands to punch, if u wanna bite by all means go for it but u are getting knocked out by anybody who learned a martial art if u didnt

 

[Incelforeever]

Imagine an alligator grabbing your arm and deathrolling you, and then you cry how its not fair hahahahahhahahahah

well thank god were not talking about animals u fucking low iq retarded cunt

 

[StellaFanboy]

well thank god were not talking about animals u fucking low iq retarded cunt

are you fucking braindead? yes you are of course

 

[6ft4]

His "natural fighting" technique looks so convincing here

Goatis natural fighting tutorial

>Punching does hardly anything, but you might get lucky 5% of the time and knock someone out >If you don't want to risk going to jail then don't use your fists because it's dangerous since they can still hit their head and die, fight naturally instead Claims punching is completely ineffective...

looksmax.org

 

[Incelforeever]

are you fucking braindead? yes you are of course

u are talking about animals u stupid fuck

 

[Euron]

Goatis has a few good takes, everything else is bs

 

[Incelforeever]

His "natural fighting" technique looks so convincing here

Goatis natural fighting tutorial

>Punching does hardly anything, but you might get lucky 5% of the time and knock someone out >If you don't want to risk going to jail then don't use your fists because it's dangerous since they can still hit their head and die, fight naturally instead Claims punching is completely ineffective...

looksmax.org

Wow, just hug him and bite him, like random nigga much less a pro fighter wouldnt put him to sleep before he can even think

 

[Incelforeever]

Goatis has a few good takes, everything else is bs

agreed