MSE or SARPE?

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Which is the better one to get in preparation for bimax? Also how long does MSE take? I heard SARPE can give you a monkey face and I def don’t want that, so is MSE my best bet? I will also need to have braces before bimax too
 
You already look like a monkey no need to worry
 
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mse is better but takes longer (obviously)
 
mse is better but takes longer (obviously)
Do you know the timeframe for MSE? Under a year? I’ll need braces too are they able to go on while MSE device is in my mouth or does it need to be after?
 
Do you know the timeframe for MSE? Under a year? I’ll need braces too are they able to go on while MSE device is in my mouth or does it need to be after?
1 year tops, potentially less. can do simultaneously
 
Keep in mind with upper jaw widening u also need to do lower jaw widening aswell to match the bite
 
Keep in mind with upper jaw widening u also need to do lower jaw widening aswell to match the bite
How is that done? Is that what MSDO is? Is that why you said I needed MSDO cuz I still don’t understand what MSDO even is
 
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1 year tops, potentially less. can do simultaneously
Also MSE is able to work on 20 year olds too right? From what I’ve seen online expanders really only work in children or is MSE different and able to work on adults
 
How is that done? Is that what MSDO is? Is that why you said I needed MSDO cuz I still don’t understand what MSDO even is
MSDO is lower jaw widening with suregry, the bite will get fucked if u only do MSE
 
Also MSE is able to work on 20 year olds too right? From what I’ve seen online expanders really only work in children or is MSE different and able to work on adults
yes but you might need corticopuncture
 
MSDO is lower jaw widening with suregry, the bite will get fucked if u only do MSE
Okay cool, do most orthodontists or jaw surgeons do MSDO and MSE? Also would MSE and MSDO be done at the same time?
 
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Okay cool, do most orthodontists or jaw surgeons do MSDO and MSE? Also would MSE and MSDO be done at the same time?
MSDO is surgical so u do it after MSE treatment ends. U need to go to a Jaw surgeon to get MSDO, but i think orthos offer MSE
 
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MSDO is surgical so u do it after MSE treatment ends. U need to go to a Jaw surgeon to get MSDO, but i think orthos offer MSE
Would a reasonable time frame for getting MSE, braces, and MSDO over with be about 3 years? And then a 4th year to have bimax completed? Should I be around 24-25 when I have all this complete in your opinion?
 
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Would a reasonable time frame for getting MSE, braces, and MSDO over with be about 3 years? And then a 4th year to have bimax completed? Should I be around 24-25 when I have all this complete in your opinion?
u can get this done in 3 years easily. maybe 2 if ur lucky
 
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u can get this done in 3 years easily. maybe 2 if ur lucky
Aight sounds good. Sucks that I’ll have to basically waste close to 5 years tryna ascend but my quality of life will be way better after so 🤷🏻‍♂️, can always just find a gf with braces too ig
 
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MSE isn't better it causes asymmetry if you have a canted maxilla and makes your zygos wider
Wym a canted maxila? SARPE causes monkey face I don’t want that. Plus bimax ccw should fix the asymmetry caused by MSE if it causes any anyways, correct?
 
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Wym a canted maxila? SARPE causes monkey face I don’t want that. Plus bimax ccw should fix the asymmetry caused by MSE if it causes any anyways, correct?
how does it cause a monkey face

like tilted if your lips are tilted to one side then you have a canted maxilla
 
MSE isn't better it causes asymmetry if you have a canted maxilla and makes your zygos wider
well the sarpe cut is literally asymmetrical. it is what it is if you need it you need it. asymmetry may improve afterwards. wider zygos are good usually on palatecels.
 
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how does it cause a monkey face

like tilted if your lips are tilted to one side then you have a canted maxilla
Do I have a canted maxila? My lips are semi asymmetrical anyways cuz I got the side busted open from getting a watch smashed on my face in a fight a few years ago, and my jaw is a bit asymmetrical too cuz my teeth are not aligned properly
 
well the sarpe cut is literally asymmetrical. it is what it is if you need it you need it. asymmetry may improve afterwards. wider zygos are good usually on palatecels.
I’m a palatecel tho I have a pretty narrow palate, should I still get MSE and MSDO?
 

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well the sarpe cut is literally asymmetrical. it is what it is if you need it you need it. asymmetry may improve afterwards. wider zygos are good usually on palatecels.
Based on the pics I sent do you think I need sarpe or MSE?
 
I’m a palatecel tho I have a pretty narrow palate, should I still get MSE and MSDO?
Good luck finding someone that does msdo. Also the risk of a serious infection and joint problems is very high.
 
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Good luck finding someone that does msdo. Also the risk of a serious infection and joint problems is very high.
Why is the risk high? And do not many surgeons do MSDO or something?
 
in general I reckon MSE is somewhat better but either should be ok :feelshmm:
If I were to get MSE without getting MSDO since it’s hard to find surgeons for that, would I still look asymmetrical/weird after getting bimax ccw with genio? Do I need MSDO if I get MSE?
 
MSE is a fucking meme, go for SARPE.
 
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Do I need MSDO if I get MSE?
msdo for the occlusion. do you have wider bottom arch? then you may not need. but this is kind of an elephant in the room regarding mse
 
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