"Muhh incels want a trad wife"

[Deleted member 14693]

Just disproved it by asking what they would want, the top or bottom fantasy

The result is clrea, incel want to beat up their submissive hot as fuck wife and let her be their servant as an ideal lifestyle. Not trad wife

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[thecel]

HOLY FUCK

I thought the incel community is the last remaining bit of pro-traditionalism anti-promiscuity in the world. But when the truth comes out, the incel community turns out to be just as degenerate as the rest of the West.

If I rope, it won’t be because I’m depressed, lonely, and incel. I’d rope because I can’t tolerate the shit direction that our culture is (and has been) heading towards.

 

[ascension]

Lol in the original one you just asked which you'd rather have, not wife up. Disingenuous journalism, are you a Buzzfeed employee by any chance?

 

[Cidre enjoyer]

Not everyone here is incel

 

[Deleted member 14693]

Lol in the original one you just asked which you'd rather have, not wife up. Disingenuous journalism, are you a Buzzfeed employee by any chance?

So you would like to wife something that isn't your ideal life? Doesn't really make sense since you choose what you would rather like to have obviously

 

[ascension]

So you would like to wife something that isn't your ideal life? Doesn't really make sense since you choose what you would rather like to have obviously

I'd only wife up anything between a LTB to HTB. But ideally I'd like to fuck a stacy. Different standards for hookups and LTR's

 

[Deleted member 14693]

I'd only wife up anything between a LTB to HTB. But ideally I'd like to fuck a stacy. Different standards for hookups and LTR's

Yeah and the foids at the top fantasy fog???

Trad wife never meant good looking

 

[ascension]

Yeah and the foids at the top fantasy fog???

Trad wife never meant good looking

I don't get what you're saying. But the bottom line is you are an evil fake journalist.

 

[Truecel14]

incel want to beat up their submissive hot as fuck wife and let her be their servant as an ideal lifestyle

I want this. Is this not a trad wife?

 

[ReadBooksEveryday]

Incel are the biggest hypocrite

One day they want to be abused by @the BULL . The next day they want to claim he’s an incel virgin.

 

[ReadBooksEveryday]

Not surprised though that users like @ascension want to beat their woman. Just a typical incel looney …

 

[ascension]

Incel are the biggest hypocrite

One day they want to be abused by @the BULL . The next day they want to claim he’s an incel virgin.

Keep tagging Bull. He might drop you a pity react after fucking his Tinder slut tonight.

Not surprised though that users like @ascension want to beat their woman. Just a typical incel looney …

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[Perma Virgin 666]

The result is clrea, incel want to beat up their submissive hot as fuck wife and let her be their servant as an ideal lifestyle. Not trad wife

that's what a trad wife is

 

[Perma Virgin 666]

Not surprised though that users like @ascension want to beat their woman. Just a typical incel looney …

there's nothing wrong with beating women, it's in fact necessary and a good thing

 

[AspiringMogger]

Just disproved it by asking what they would want, the top or bottom fantasy

The result is clrea, incel want to beat up their submissive hot as fuck wife and let her be their servant as an ideal lifestyle. Not trad wife
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Bottom is achievable. Top is not.

 

[ascension]

there's nothing wrong with beating women, it's in fact necessary and a good thing

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[Deleted member 14693]

Bottom is achievable. Top is not.

Top is achievable since all foids like BDSM.

Also your fantasy is your fantasy so even if it weren't achievable it wouldn't matter in this question

 

[thecel]

Bottom is achievable. Top is not.

Bottom is moral and benefits society. Top is immoral and turns society into what it is today: a denegerate shithole.

 

[rand anon]

HOLY FUCK

I thought the incel community is the last remaining bit of pro-traditionalism anti-promiscuity in the world. But when the truth comes out, the incel community turns out to be just as degenerate as the rest of the West.

If I rope, it won’t be because I’m depressed, lonely, and incel. I’d rope because I can’t tolerate the shit direction that our culture is (and has been) heading towards.

 

[AspiringMogger]

Bottom is moral and benefits society. Top is immoral and turns society into what it is today: a denegerate shithole.

Morality doesn’t solve the issues of self-fulfilment and it doesn’t make sense to put the collective above your own self interest, especially not when female mating strategy is built on fulfilling their own self interest.

"It is impossible to think of anything at all in the world, or indeed even beyond it, that could be considered good without limitation except a good will”.

 

[thecel]

it doesn’t make sense to put the collective above your own self interest

It doesn’t make sense to do this in an individualistic society. However, it does make sense in a society in which everyone does it. Big question is how do we go from individualistic to collectivist. Is it possible?

When everyone puts the collective above themselves, the benefit to the collective is to high that each individual receives that benefit, and the average benefit each person gets is greater than the average benefit each person gets if they all acted in their self-interest only.

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Morality doesn’t solve the issues of self-fulfilment

Widespread morality does. Example:

• If a society is full of thieves, the average happiness level is way lower, but the successful thieves get lots of self-fulfillment.
• If no one in a society ever steals, everyone is happier. Potential thieves would have to hold back on their self-fulfillment in order to uphold a social reality that allows everyone to benefit from not needing to worry about getting robbed.

Problem is the dating market has widespread immorality.

 

[thecel]

especially not when female mating strategy is built on fulfilling their own self interest.

Females should be shamed for exercising their mating strategy. Shame is what society uses to enforce morality in contexts the legal system is too impractical or intrusive for.

 

[thecel]

@AspiringMogger I’d say that 90% of fulfillment isn’t self-fulfillment. 90% of fulfillment comes from just living in a good environment that has enough resources to go around.

 

[AspiringMogger]

It doesn’t make sense to do this in an individualistic society. However, it does make sense in a society in which everyone does it. Big question is how do we go from individualistic to collectivist. Is it possible?

We don’t have to go from an individualistic society to a collectivistic society since that’s not what people want. People want to find their own purpose and happiness instead of being a cog in the machine.

When everyone puts the collective above themselves, the benefit to the collective is to high that each individual receives that benefit, and the average benefit each person gets is greater than the average benefit each person gets if they all acted in their self-interest only.

This sounds good on paper but in reality it’s very naive and it leaves a large responsibility on everyone taking part. If some people drop out of society in this type of world it would affect more people than just themselves (like today).

Problem is the dating market has widespread immorality.

Key word: “dating market”. In every market there are businesses that flourish (Chad) and businesses that go bust (incels). It’s cutthroat and it’s up to each individual to find a USP and get a competitive advantage/edge.

Females should be shamed for exercising their mating strategy. Shame is what society uses to enforce morality in contexts the legal system is too impractical or intrusive for.

Women aren’t concerned with shame. Even in the puritan societies all throughout time women have cheated. The only difference compared to then and now is that those women had no financial leverage so that had to prioritise stability and security over primal attraction.

 

[Squirtoutmabooty]

HOLY FUCK

I thought the incel community is the last remaining bit of pro-traditionalism anti-promiscuity in the world. But when the truth comes out, the incel community turns out to be just as degenerate as the rest of the West.

If I rope, it won’t be because I’m depressed, lonely, and incel. I’d rope because I can’t tolerate the shit direction that our culture is (and has been) heading towards.

You’re right but you’re also trans so kinda hypocritical

 

[AspiringMogger]

@AspiringMogger I’d say that 90% of fulfillment isn’t self-fulfillment. 90% of fulfillment comes from just living in a good environment that has enough resources to go around.

I would agree if you changed the word “fulfilment” to contentment. Most people are content living with a mtb who is nice and gives them good sex once in a while, but those people are by no means feeling fullfilled. Fulfilment is reaching the ideal which is impossible for 99% of people.

 

[Magical Apple]

Just disproved it by asking what they would want, the top or bottom fantasy

The result is clrea, incel want to beat up their submissive hot as fuck wife and let her be their servant as an ideal lifestyle. Not trad wife
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Just disproved it by asking what they would want, the top or bottom fantasy

The result is clrea, incel want to beat up their submissive hot as fuck wife and let her be their servant as an ideal lifestyle. Not trad wife
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I don't fantasize about sex with women, I fantasize about looking perfect ad having godlike IQ and wisdom. @_MVP_

 

[thecel]

We don’t have to go from an individualistic society to a collectivistic society since that’s not what people want. People want to find their own purpose and happiness instead of being a cog in the machine.

At the very least, or society shouldn’t praise and promote behaviors that harm the machine. We see it as a good thing to hoard resources and sabotage the machine.

People do want to find their own purpose and happiness, but everyone loves a good machine. Most unhappy people today are unhappy about situations that the shitty machine put them into (or let them fall into). No one wants to be a cog in the machine, so the machine goes unmaintained and falls apart.

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This sounds good on paper but in reality it’s very naive and it leaves a large responsibility on everyone taking part. If some people drop out of society in this type of world it would affect more people than just themselves (like today).

It worked in the past because the shame was strong enough to suppress the sort of degeneracy we see today. Back then <1% of people engaged in the hookup shit that >80% of young people do in modern times.

People don’t need to do much to take part. They’re compelled only to not hog so much resources that it deprives others of these limited resources. They just have to not take too much food; it’s not like everyone must be a chef.

 

[thecel]

those people are by no means feeling fullfilled

holy fuck what is this cope bro diminishing returns bro

 

[thecel]

@AspiringMogger Individual-purpose-maxing is a huge cope. Even when people pursue it, 99.9% end up having just as big an impact as they’d have if they were just a cog in the machine.

 

[AspiringMogger]

At the very least, or society shouldn’t praise and promote behaviors that harm the machine. We see it as a good thing to hoard resources and sabotage the machine.

I agree with this, but it’s the minority of people that frequently engage in hook up culture.

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It worked in the past because the shame was strong enough to suppress the sort of degeneracy we see today. Back then <1% of people engaged in the hookup shit that >80% of young people do in modern times.

This is only because women weren’t capable of doing it as I’ve said before. The turn of the 20th century have forever opened a bottle neck that cannot be closed in the west. Women have entered the workforce which has meant that they don’t need a beta provider like they did previously in human history. They can chad chase in peace.

 

[AspiringMogger]

@AspiringMogger Individual-purpose-maxing is a huge cope. Even when people pursue it, 99.9% end up having just as big an impact as they’d have if they were just a cog in the machine.

Possibly but you’d never know whether you’d be able to reach the ideal if you never tried. There is a big difference between striving for what you consider greatness when you are young compared to just settle for the better of society.

 

[thecel]

I agree with this, but it’s the minority of people that frequently engage in hook up culture.

This is only because women weren’t capable of doing it as I’ve said before. The turn of the 20th century have forever opened a bottle neck that cannot be closed in the west. Women have entered the workforce which has meant that they don’t need a beta provider like they did previously in human history. They can chad chase in peace.

Cope. Why didn’t Bezoses in the old days live with huge harems of women?

Women back then needed providers, and multiple women could’ve been provided lavish lifestyles by the same rich guy.

But! A married Bezos back then would refuse to do that for a woman who isn’t his wife. Because the culture had strong morality (a lot of it religious but still morality).

The point is that the successful men in trad societies didn’t engage in polyamory even though it would be the epitome of beta-providing, which is precisely what the women needed.

Your point is “women couldn’t”. My point is “Bezoses abstained.”

The one-to-one monogamous match thing in the old days was a moral standard. It did not arise out of mere economic practicality on the women’s part. A more optimal system to maximize this would be 10 women per millionaire.

 

[thecel]

Possibly but you’d never know whether you’d be able to reach the ideal if you never tried. There is a big difference between striving for what you consider greatness when you are young compared to just settle for the better of society.

Issue today is that most people slack off on their roles as cogs in the machine but most still fail, leading to bad cogs who ultimately never amount to anything more than bad cogs. At least you can try to be a good cog!

Society is angry about the state of the machine. We’re desperately in need of people to fix the damn broken machine. But no one does.

 

[AspiringMogger]

Your point is “women couldn’t”. My point is “Bezoses abstained.”

The two can co-exist can’t they? The vast majority of women have never been able to find a guy wealthy enough to have a soft harem so they had to settle with one of the first providers they found. Throughout time there has always been clear winners and losers, the difference was just that the metric for being a winner was money back then and now it’s looks.

 

[AspiringMogger]

Issue today is that most people slack off on their roles as cogs in the machine but most still fail, leading to bad cogs who ultimately never amount to anything more than bad cogs. At least you can try to be a good cuck!

 

[thecel]

Throughout time there has always been clear winners and losers, the difference was just that the metric for being a winner was money back then and now it’s looks.

The difference:

• Winner back then: rich with wife
• Loser back then: poor with wife
• Winner now: rich with 10,000 hoes
• Loser now: poor permavirgin

Too much freedom widened the gap and lowered the average happiness level.

How did it lower the average happiness level? Diminishing returns.

• Going from 0 women to 1 woman increases your happiness by a life-saving amount. That happiness increase takes a man from suicidal to content.
• Going from 1 woman to 2 women increases happiness far less. 2 to 3, even less. 3 to 4, still less. So on and so forth. When Andrew Tate’s body count goes from 9000 virgins to 9001 virgins, his happiness doesn’t even budge. But he does ruin it for 1 more man in the market.

If we take away the excess resources the winners have and give it to the losers, lives would literally be saved, and the winners would barely be less happy.

 

[AspiringMogger]

The difference:

• Winner back then: rich with wife
• Loser back then: poor with wife
• Winner now: rich with 10,000 hoes
• Loser now: poor permavirgin

Too much freedom widened the gap and lowered the average happiness level.

How did it lower the average happiness level? Diminishing returns.

• Going from 0 women to 1 woman increases your happiness by a life-saving amount. That happiness increase takes a man from suicidal to content.
• Going from 1 woman to 2 women increases happiness far less. 2 to 3, even less. 3 to 4, still less. So on and so forth. When Andrew Tate’s body count goes from 9000 virgins to 9001 virgins, his happiness doesn’t even budge. But he does ruin it for 1 more man in the market.

As I’ve said before this all sounds incredibly good on paper but what we have now is a free dating market that’s cutthroat. This might sound tough to hear but if a random guy can’t compete and make himself attractive to women, he should just LDAR. If businesses can’t compete they will go bust. I would hate for the government to bail out those failing businesses for my taxpayer money (if you get what I mean).

If we take away the excess resources the winners have and give it to the losers, lives would literally be saved, and the winners would barely be less happy.

Realistically speaking how do you plan on allocating pussy out to losers?

 

[thecel]

@AspiringMogger Your “cuck” edit sums up what’s wrong with our hyper-individualistic culture. We see it as a sign of weakness for one to devote effort towards a non-selfish purpose.

• Be a good contributor to a team or company but not be the leader or the CEO? Cuck!
• Be strictly religious and submit yourself to your deity? Cuck! Chad is atheist and fucks bitches while you pray 5 times a day!
• Volunteer to clean up a park? Cuck!
• Be vegan for moral reasons? Cuck! Who cares about the cows, bro?
• Care about the environment? Cuck!
• Donate to charity? Cuck! This is why you’ll never drive a Bugatti, bro.

It’s terrible for society that most males view anything that isn’t a self-interested entrepreneurial-type pursuit as a cucked way to live. The world was better when the average person wasn’t a narcissist.

 

[thecel]

Realistically speaking how do you plan on allocating pussy out to losers?

I don’t. All I’m saying is that trad monogamy is ideal. Can we get back to that? Probably not. But what angers me is guys who say the current free-for-all system is actually better than the trad way.

A man who can figure out a way to revert to the old system is a genius.
A man who believes the new system is better is a retard.

 

[AspiringMogger]

@AspiringMogger Your “cuck” edit sums up what’s wrong with our hyper-individualistic culture. We see it as a sign of weakness for one to devote effort towards a non-selfish purpose.

• Be a good contributor to a team or company but not be the leader or the CEO? Cuck!

In an idea world everyone have skills that people would be willing to pay for, and everyone would therefore work as contracted people instead slaving it on the cooperate ladder.

• Be strictly religious and submit yourself to your deity? Cuck! Chad is atheist and fucks bitches while you pray 5 times a day!
• Volunteer to clean up a park? Cuck!
• Be vegan for moral reasons? Cuck! Who cares about the cows, bro?
• Care about the environment? Cuck!
• Donate to charity? Cuck! This is why you’ll never drive a Bugatti, bro.

I don’t think anyone would look at other people doing these things as cucks.

It’s terrible for society that most males view anything that isn’t a self-interested entrepreneurial-type pursuit as a cucked way to live. The world was better when the average person wasn’t a narcissist.

Opinions on men raising other people’s kids?

 

[thecel]

Opinions on men raising other people’s kids?

It’s a good and noble thing to do. Understandably, it bruises the ego, so men want to avoid it. But I have a lot of respect for men who decide to be the fathers for children who otherwise would grow up under single mothers, fathers who put children’s well-being above their egos.

 

[AspiringMogger]

A man who can figure out a way to revert to the old system is a genius.
A man who believes the new system is better is a retard.

This is what it boils down to: Who is the trad lifestyle better to? Men who are losing in the free market. Who is the free market better to? Top 5-10% of men and all women.

If you ask me I think women would much rather prefer this contrary to the old lifestyle.

 

[thecel]

This is what it boils down to: Who is the trad lifestyle better to? Men who are losing in the free market. Who is the free market better to? Top 5-10% of men and all women.

If you ask me I think women would much rather prefer this contrary to the old lifestyle.

Women say they prefer this, but they don’t know that they’d actually be more fulfilled in the old lifestyle.

Women deal with unwanted pregnancies and abort their babies (deaths of the babies and inflicts emotional pain to the mothers), women get cheated on by Chads and Tyrones, women go for LTRs only to get pumped and dumped, etc. Though they say they prefer this just because of the muh freedom.

 

[AspiringMogger]

Women say they prefer this, but they don’t know that they’d actually be more fulfilled in the old lifestyle.

What makes you say that?

 

[thecel]

What makes you say that?

Women deal with unwanted pregnancies and abort their babies (deaths of the babies and inflicts emotional pain to the mothers), women get cheated on by Chads and Tyrones, women go for LTRs only to get pumped and dumped, etc. Though they say they prefer this just because of the muh freedom.

Women ask “where have all the good men gone” but back in the day even GigaChad was that good man. Nowadays, good-looking men who want just LTRs and won’t sleep around are far and few between.

 

[AspiringMogger]

Women ask “where have all the good men gone”

The biggest blackpill is the fact that this is a male cope. I so badly want for high bodycount women to hit their 40s and wonder where all the good men have gone but the truth is that the vast majority of people find a partner and get married.