musclemass=nothing

[Deleted member 31766]

literally nobody (unless your blasting roids) can EVEN tell that you lift weights once you have your shirt on. if I had to take a guess that out of the 365 days in the year 360 of them you have your shirt on so why does it matter if you have a 6pack or not? excluding that fact musclemass barley adds anything to your body's attractiveness since it's like 80% frame. and if you think blasting roids is the solution if have bad news for you pal women aren't attracted to the bodybuilder physique

 

[JCaesar]

and if you think blasting roids is the solution

if you're under 18 it is

 

[xegigi]

its worth it to lift either way because you look better with muscles than without but yeah blasting roids is cope if over 25 with bad frame

 

[Deleted member 31766]

its worth it to lift either way because you look better with muscles than without but yeah blasting roids is cope if over 25 with bad frame

not worth the time investment

 

[Saint Casanova]

I guess muscle doesn’t help them ?

 

[xegigi]

not worth the time investment

doesnt take too much time to get at least a little toned

 

[mirrormogger]

just place bottom 1% frame next to top 1% frame and claim muscles are worthless theory

 

[mirrormogger]

jfl i just realized first guy has better hips than second

 

[Deleted member 31766]

I guess muscle doesn’t help them ?

already chads with good frames and musclemass barely adds anything to their physical attractiveness

 

[Saint Casanova]

already chads with good frames and musclemass barely adds anything to their physical attractiveness

Same cope everyday

 

[Saint Casanova]

jfl i just realized first guy has better hips than second View attachment 2908543

Hips are cope tbh. Shoulders are 80 percent of frame. Then it’s 10 percent joint size and 10 percent hips

 

[Deleted member 31766]

Same cope everyday

lighting with a pump that guy doesn't look like that in day to day life

 

[Deprived]

If you get lean without building muscle you will look like a TWINK and be smaller than the girls you wanna fuck

 

[Saint Casanova]

lighting with a pump that guy doesn't look like that in day to day life

I’m sure if you stood in the exact same lighting with a pump you’ll look even 5 percent as good ?

 

[autistic_tendencies]

thick neck looks good in a shirt

 

[Saint Casanova]

literally nobody (unless your blasting roids) can EVEN tell that you lift weights once you have your shirt on.

And what’s this nonsense. Maybe true if you have Klinefelters. @St.TikTokcel

 

[Deleted member 31766]

I’m sure if you stood in the exact same lighting with a pump you’ll look even 5 percent as good ?

no but it doesn't matter

 

[Saint Casanova]

no but it doesn't matter

Well maybe you realise that women past 18 want robust men. Not Twinks or fatties

 

[Deleted member 31766]

Well maybe you realise that women past 18 want robust men. Not Twinks or fatties

source?

 

[Saint Casanova]

source?

Source

 

[Deleted member 3168]

Hips are cope tbh. Shoulders are 80 percent of frame. Then it’s 10 percent joint size and 10 percent hips

hips are very important imo.

 

[Deleted member 31766]

Source

you can poke fun at me all you want but we both know the moment that guy stops posing for the camera has his shirt on no one will care about his muscles

 

[gooner23]

Hips are cope tbh. Shoulders are 80 percent of frame. Then it’s 10 percent joint size and 10 percent hips

i mean shoulder based frames look way different than clavicle frames, and hips matter a lot when wearing tighter shirts or shirtless

 

[Saint Casanova]

hips are very important imo.

Don’t you see he has a weak upper body in general. This is what I mean

 

[Saint Casanova]

you can poke fun at me all you want but we both know the moment that guy stops posing for the camera has his shirt on no one will care about his muscles

it’s still a good halo if you’re tall with a decent face. Can’t deny that

 

[Saint Casanova]

i mean shoulder based frames look way different than clavicle frames, and hips matter a lot when wearing tighter shirts or shirtless

I’m talking about general upper body width and size in general. Besides if you have a 23 inch bidelt, you will usually have an above average clavicle width

 

[Deleted member 3168]

Don’t you see he has a weak upper body in general. This is what I mean

true. it’s just that i think hips are the factor that can limit ur physique to just good instead of ELITE.

 

[Saint Casanova]

true. it’s just that i think hips are the factor that can limit ur physique to just good instead of ELITE.

All of those physiques I showed are elite to women and the general public. Maybe if you want to be a fitness model or bodybuilder then yeah I agree.

 

[Deleted member 3168]

All of those physiques I showed are elite to women and the general public. Maybe if you want to be a fitness model or bodybuilder then yeah I agree.

maybe it’s just me then. i feel like i had to choose between david laid and mike thurston, i would chose david in a heartbeat,

 

[Saint Casanova]

true. it’s just that i think hips are the factor that can limit ur physique to just good instead of ELITE.

But yeah when the iliac crest is aligned with the rib cage, that’s a mogger trait. Gives that spearhead look to the lower body

 

[GreedIcon]

Fucking autistic cope, people can tell i lift (even trough i do calisthenics) and they compliment me with even oversize clothes, why? because of my arm shapes, size, pecs bulging my shirt or whatever im wearing, and of course frame, etc. But its obviously harder to tell if you are a lean gay shit with 1% bodyfat. training your muscles will benefit you in a lot of ways, well being, more energy, etc and its really important overall

 

[Deleted member 16280]

But if you have an aesthetic fizeek you can show it off in pictures on dating apps and get better results. (As long as you’re not ugly).

 

[Deleted member 3168]

But yeah when the iliac crest is aligned with the rib cage, that’s a mogger trait. Gives that spearhead look to the lower body

gets my hypothetical pussy wetttttt.