Muscles matter, but it is of less importance compared to being NT and having a good face.

[TheStonerOne]

At my peak, my physique looked like this.

I was well over 200lbs/91kg here and I was/am 6'3½/192cm. I still got no meaningful matches on Tinder. I still got no genuine desire from women. Your physique WILL increase your sex appeal but you STILL need to have the face (face not shown cause it's sub5) AND you need to be neurotypical. Having a sub5 face and being autistic=death.

Physique isn't cope but it is lesser. No gym or height for your face and autism.

NOTE: I was rated 4/10 by Wheat Waffles in 2022. Even when I got relatively lean a year and a half later, I got a 5/10. Wheat probably overrates by 0.5-1 point, so my ACTUAL face rating when lean is a 4.5 at BEST.

 

[isis_Bleach]

nigga really said nt

 

[PureImagination]

Muscles is a less important thing for attraction but is inflated heavily by the media and copers because everyone can get them, what they don’t realize is that muscles can only get you so far and there’s a sweet spot so more isn’t always better.


Overall gymcelling is cope if you’re below 5’9/175cm and/or sub mtn

 

[pope]

At my peak, my physique looked like this.

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I was well over 200lbs/91kg here and I was/am 6'3½/192cm. I still got no meaningful matches on Tinder. I still got no genuine desire from women. Your physique WILL increase your sex appeal but you STILL need to have the face (face not shown cause it's sub5) AND you need to be neurotypical. Having a sub5 face and being autistic=death.

Physique isn't cope but it is lesser. No gym or height for your face and autism.

NOTE: I was rated 4/10 by Wheat Waffles in 2022. Even when I got relatively lean a year and a half later, I got a 5/10. Wheat probably overrates by 0.5-1 point, so my ACTUAL face rating when lean is a 4.5 at BEST.

Cover up your face with beard ?

 

[inceI]

youre DYEL in a shirt, thats the problem

im same height as you and didnt see benefits until atleast 220lbs

 

[TheStonerOne]

youre DYEL in a shirt, thats the problem

im same height as you and didnt see benefits until atleast 220lbs

At 220, I look like a marshmallow. I need to be sub 200 or else my face gets giga bloated. Even at 190, I look rounded and bloated.

 

[inceI]

At 220, I look like a marshmallow. I need to be sub 200 or else my face gets giga bloated. Even at 190, I look rounded and bloated.

192cm 90kg is extremely small, sorry.

when youre and 100kg and lean, come back and tell me "muscles dont matter"

 

[TheStonerOne]

Cover up your face with beard ?

I have tried beard styles in the past. At one point, I didn't shave for 4 years. I've tried stubble. NOTHING.

 

[TheStonerOne]

192cm 90kg is extremely small, sorry.

when youre and 100kg and lean, come back and tell me "muscles dont matter"

I'd have to cut first and then do a cycle of gear in order to get to <12% at 100kg and I wanna do it naturally.