Muslims believe it's clean to dip dirty FLIES into your drink

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"if a fly falls in the vessel anyone of you, let him dip all of it (in the vessel) and then throw it away, for in one of its wings has the ailment and the other has the cure" (Al-Bukhari)
 
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Muslim hate today cuz I spoke to one and it was so retarded :lul:
 
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It's talking about the fly
 
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Just because it says there is a cure in one of its wings doesnt mean that its saying that its clean
 
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"if a fly falls in the vessel anyone of you, let him dip all of it (in the vessel) and then throw it away, for in one of its wings has the ailment and the other has the cure" (Al-Bukhari)
i aspire to one day be as much of a hater as u are , making multiple threads about hating on muslims. heroπŸ¦Έβ€β™‚οΈ
 
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Just because it says there is a cure in one of its wings doesnt mean that its saying that its clean
Why does Muhammad tell you to dip the fly in the drink and that one of the wing has the cure. Wouldn't that be a little bit misleading?
 
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i aspire to one day be as much of a hater as u are , making multiple threads about hating on muslims. heroπŸ¦Έβ€β™‚οΈ
Nigger you don't understand the anger I had when I talked to one. It's like they're ragebaiting 24/7 :feelsree:
 
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"if a fly falls in the vessel anyone of you, let him dip all of it (in the vessel) and then throw it away, for in one of its wings has the ailment and the other has the cure" (Al-Bukhari)
are you christian ?
 
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aight, just asking cuz it wouldve been dumb to make multiple threads hating on muslim religion while being christian, both brainwashing..i respect both tho believe in what you want
 
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aight, just asking cuz it wouldve been dumb to make multiple threads hating on muslim religion while being christian, both brainwashing..i respect both tho believe in what you want
Yes both retarded
 
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"if a fly falls in the vessel anyone of you, let him dip all of it (in the vessel) and then throw it away, for in one of its wings has the ailment and the other has the cure" (Al-Bukhari)
Al-Bukhari isn't quran not every muslim believes it
 
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Right im retarded
Table of results from the paper

The 1990 paper by Baeshin is dipping flies for 20 seconds (vs floating fly for 20 seconds) and dipping flies thrice for 20 seconds each (vs floating for 60 seconds) in some experiments using the same fly multiple times (!) in some experiments having only one no-dip statistic, ..., no variance is computed, tests are done maximally 6 times, provenance of flies is unclear, the manipulation neccessary for dipping has no clear equal on the no-dip side of things (introduction of antimicrobials via the tool?), counts fluctuate wildly over time and over media - in short, it is a hot mess.

The hypothesis is that the fly carries an antimicrobial factor that is transferred to the water in a higher concentration when dipping, thus counteracting the initially higher microbial input. The data does not bear that out, if the experimental and statistical shortcomings are taken into account.

The microbiologically sound 2019 study by Galal et al looks at bacteria and fungi found on flies by dipping. It finds bacteria and fungi on the flies, does a visual characterisation of the cultures and confirms antimicrobial and antifungal properties on some colonies. The paper has no hypothesis and is purely observational. It is never made clear why the flies are sampled by dipping, but they reference Baeshin(1990) with this: "[...]studied the effect of natural fall and dipping of M. domestica on microbial contamination of distilled water and milk" - thereby omitting any religious overtones or the hypothesis that dipping somehow is better than floating.

The funny 2014 paper by Atta even narrows it down to the wing. As is readily apparent from the picture, an assay sourced from the right wing is totally different from the assay sourced from the left wing. Science People! Sadly the author leaves out why dipping a fly would impact which wing gets more washed. Two things are shown, difference is unclear. Image is potato quality

Baeshin at al resubmitted their 1990 paper with more authors but same data 2021. Why? To prove precedence. Why? Unclear.
Right heres an answer from an atheist SO YOU KNOW ITS NOT BIASED IF ANYTHING ITS BIASED AGAINST THE VERSE
Summarizing it theres not really any strong evidence supporting the verse but theres certainly no/less evidence against the verse barring what someone would intuitively think
 
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Right heres an answer from an atheist SO YOU KNOW ITS NOT BIASED IF ANYTHING ITS BIASED AGAINST THE VERSE
Summarizing it theres not really any strong evidence supporting the verse but theres certainly no/less evidence against the verse barring what someone would intuitively think
And if anything this actually supports Islam
There is nothing similar to this verse that is irrefutably false/untrue which would make sense
Allah SWT would not want to make Islam obviously true by giving something thats correct and highly specific but he would not give irrefutably wrong information either
 
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Right heres an answer from an atheist SO YOU KNOW ITS NOT BIASED IF ANYTHING ITS BIASED AGAINST THE VERSE
Summarizing it theres not really any strong evidence supporting the verse but theres certainly no/less evidence against the verse barring what someone would intuitively think
The 2014 wing study is a complete fucking joke :lul:. They had a couple flies and a CLEAR motive to fake the results. That study wouldn't be taken seriously by literally any scientist
 
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The 2014 wing study is a complete fucking joke :lul:. They had a couple flies and a CLEAR motive to fake the results. That study wouldn't be taken seriously by literally any scientist
My reply was written with that in mind
 
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Right heres an answer from an atheist SO YOU KNOW ITS NOT BIASED IF ANYTHING ITS BIASED AGAINST THE VERSE
Summarizing it theres not really any strong evidence supporting the verse but theres certainly no/less evidence against the verse barring what someone would intuitively think
Yes it's obvious that the fly has antimicrobial properties but there's absolutely no evidence that the wings are different. That wouldn't make ANY sense biologically
 
Yes it's obvious that the fly has antimicrobial properties but there's absolutely no evidence that the wings are different. That wouldn't make ANY sense biologically
He couldve said it metaphorically
 
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Wouldn't that be harmful to his followers?
Well i mean he didnt specify which wing was each so no one would actually eat one of the wings expecting a cure
 
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"if a fly falls in the vessel anyone of you, let him dip all of it (in the vessel) and then throw it away, for in one of its wings has the ailment and the other has the cure" (Al-Bukhari)
There is a deeper meaning of it, you are too stupid to understand it
 
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Just because it says there is a cure in one of its wings doesnt mean that its saying that its clean
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