MY CURRENT AND FUTURE ROID CYCLE AT 17

[nakus]

Current cycle:

500mg Test E/w
Aromasin 12.5mg on injection days
Accutane 20mg ed

currently 7 weeks in, its alright but too mild for me.

Future cycle: (starting at week 10)

Test E 500mg/w
Aromasin 12.5mg on injection days
Tren 100-150mg/w for 12 weeks
Anadrol 50mg daily for the last 6 weeks
Accutane 20mg ed

this is my first roid cycle ive dabbled in some other stuff before, i'm not taking bloods.


If anyone has any compound recomenmendations drop them, im not running HGH due to its insane price locally, cannot ship from QSC due to tight customs

if all goes well i might extend the test to 30 weeks maybe with some tren depending on how i respond to it.

will cruise on 200mg/w test e after this blast.

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

Skip the adrol, what ancillaries?

 

[nakus]

Skip the adrol, what ancillaries?

no ancillaries, and im not skipping adrol, the mass u get from adrol is unmatchable

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

no ancillaries, and im not skipping adrol, the mass u get from adrol is unmatchable

Then this is a looksmin anyway, id be better to spend 1000$ not to run this

Not to mention the healthmining

 

[nakus]

Then this is a looksmin anyway, id be better to spend 1000$ not to run this

Not to mention the healthmining

this is purely for body composition idrc about bloat or anything, ik its a healthmin but im young and i'll recover its a 1 time thing, ill probably add something for prolactin control since fucking adrol apparently antagonizes prolactin receptors + tren

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

this is purely for body composition idrc about bloat or anything, ik its a healthmin but im young and i'll recover its a 1 time thing, ill probably add something for prolactin control since fucking adrol apparently antagonizes prolactin receptors + tren

Im not talking about bloat, im talking about the insane levels of mmp's, oxadative stress and likely hairloss. This is permanent, youll look like dr mike

 

[nakus]

Im not talking about bloat, im talking about the insane levels of mmp's, oxadative stress and likely hairloss. This is permanent, youll look like dr mike

all preventable, ill add fin if my hair starts to shed other than that idrc not running it for long

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

all preventable, ill add fin if my hair starts to shed other than that idrc not running it for long

Preventable doesnt mean revirsible, you have to add ancillaries in order to prevent it

Fin will do absolutely fuck all

 

[nakus]

Preventable doesnt mean revirsible, you have to add ancillaries in order to prevent it

Fin will do absolutely fuck all

ill probably add some shit this was just to get my base in check, hair loss im not worried about tbh, my genes there are already fucked

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

ill probably add some shit this was just to get my base in check, hair loss im not worried about tbh, my genes there are already fucked

Yeah and ancillaries prevent your genes from being able to actually cause hairloss, but youre letting the norwood reaper in like a good boy when you could lock the door

Im not your dad, but im advising strongly against this, tale as old as time and it never turns out well

 

[Hexmask]

Dumbass, why are you taking asin when you don’t even know how you aromatize…unless you do but judging by “I’m not taking bloods” and you being 17 your hardheaded.

 

[nakus]

Yeah and ancillaries prevent your genes from being able to actually cause hairloss, but youre letting the norwood reaper in like a good boy when you could lock the door

Im not your dad, but im advising strongly against this, tale as old as time and it never turns out well

jaja du er svensk

faen meg umulig og få tak i noe her i Norge

 

[nakus]

Dumbass, why are you taking asin when you don’t even know how you aromatize…unless you do but judging by “I’m not taking bloods” and you being 17 your hardheaded.

feel better with the asin compared to off it my first 4-5 weeks we're with 0 asin still felt good, but adding the asin made my libido increase

 

[zoomerstein]

retarded reddit niggas run 500 test and get watery oily and aged af when they can't even bench 2 plates yet

run cruise level test and keep the tren, drop the adrol, i've been on 200 test 150 tren with zero skin sides, hair sides, etc and im blowing up faster than my previous 500 test 250 primo 50 anavar cycle

fin WILL NOT save your hair, it reduces scalp DHT by 60-70%, so if your test levels are 5-10x the natural levels your DHT is still going to be sky high
adrol and tren aren't blocked by finasteride at all

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

jaja du er svensk

faen meg umulig og få tak i noe her i Norge

Finns as mångs sources, bara sök efter eu sources så hittar du allt du behöver

 

[nakus]

Finns as mångs sources, bara sök efter eu sources så hittar du allt du behöver

tollen stopper alt her, må bruke innenlands, bruker hushboard for the det meste og fulmen pharma men de er no mid me priser og generelt hva de har her i norge

 

[Hexmask]

feel better with the asin compared to off it my first 4-5 weeks we're with 0 asin still felt good, but adding the asin made my libido increase

That’s great and all, but I’ll give you advice since I know you will do what you want-

Your supposed to start your cycle with no Ai THEN if you start feeling high E2 sides start with a MODERATE dose like 6.25mg of asin. If that’s not enough, great up the dose. I promise you, bringing your estrogen too far down and just ripping Ai just because does not always win. Ask me how I know.

 

[nakus]

retarded reddit niggas run 500 test and get watery oily and aged af when they can't even bench 2 plates yet

run cruise level test and keep the tren, drop the adrol, i've been on 200 test 150 tren with zero skin sides, hair sides, etc and im blowing up faster than my previous 500 test 250 primo 50 anavar cycle

fin WILL NOT save your hair, it reduces scalp DHT by 60-70%, so if your test levels are 5-10x the natural levels your DHT is still going to be sky high
adrol and tren aren't blocked by finasteride at all

not that worried about the hairloss

 

[zoomerstein]

That’s great and all, but I’ll give you advice since I know you will do what you want-

Your supposed to start your cycle with no Ai THEN if you start feeling high E2 sides start with a MODERATE dose like 6.25mg of asin. If that’s not enough, great up the dose. I promise you, bringing your estrogen too far down and just ripping Ai just because does not always win. Ask me how I know.

let him nuke his e2 and then rope from extreme depression and anhedonia

retards never learn

 

[nakus]

That’s great and all, but I’ll give you advice since I know you will do what you want-

Your supposed to start your cycle with no Ai THEN if you start feeling high E2 sides start with a MODERATE dose like 6.25mg of asin. If that’s not enough, great up the dose. I promise you, bringing your estrogen too far down and just ripping Ai just because does not always win. Ask me how I know.

fair enough, ive had crashed estrogen and high estrogen, feel good no matter what so ur right here, hard asf for me to judge

 

[nakus]

let him nuke his e2 and then rope from extreme depression and anhedonia

retards never learn

nuked my e2 when i tried heightmaxxing felt fine

 

[Sovereign]

retarded reddit niggas run 500 test and get watery oily and aged af when they can't even bench 2 plates yet

run cruise level test and keep the tren, drop the adrol, i've been on 200 test 150 tren with zero skin sides, hair sides, etc and im blowing up faster than my previous 500 test 250 primo 50 anavar cycle

fin WILL NOT save your hair, it reduces scalp DHT by 60-70%, so if your test levels are 5-10x the natural levels your DHT is still going to be sky high
adrol and tren aren't blocked by finasteride at all

Honestly, this is solid advice. You don’t need 500mg. Honestly, I say TRT-levels and up to 300mg.

 

[zoomerstein]

Honestly, this is solid advice. You don’t need 500mg. Honestly, I say TRT-levels and up to 300mg.

ty, high dose test is trash,

I didn't believe derek's advice to run lower doses and ran 500 for my first three cycles and it was FINE,
but i literally make better gains without water bloat and aging and hair loss and looksminning my face just by running 150-250 and stacking something on top

@nakus you will love tren. start lower and make sure you use tren ace because tren is one of those compounds where if you go too high you're pissy, feel an impending sense of doom, can't sleep, constantly sweaty, anxious, but if you tow right below that line you'll feel like a god and make incredible gains with near zero sides

i get some night sweats and definitely worse sleep even on low doses but the confidence and gains outweighs it

 

[Hexmask]

let him nuke his e2 and then rope from extreme depression and anhedonia

retards never learn

Yep. And don’t forget damaging your memory…again ask me how I know lol. Been through all the shit. I started sarms at 19, gear at 20, and am now 21

 

[nakus]

ty, high dose test is trash,

I didn't believe derek's advice to run lower doses and ran 500 for my first three cycles and it was FINE,
but i literally make better gains without water bloat and aging and hair loss and looksminning my face just by running 150-250 and stacking something on top

@nakus you will love tren. start lower and make sure you use tren ace because tren is one of those compounds where if you go too high you're pissy, feel an impending sense of doom, can't sleep, constantly sweaty, anxious, but if you tow right below that line you'll feel like a god and make incredible gains with near zero sides

i get some night sweats and definitely worse sleep even on low doses but the confidence and gains outweighs it

preciate it, do u think i should drop the adrol mostly looking for an extra boost in mass gain

 

[nakus]

Yep. And don’t forget damaging your memory…again ask me how I know lol. Been through all the shit. I started sarms at 19, gear at 20, and am now 21

yea blasted arimidex at 15-16, my memory did get affected and my grades did drop

 

[zoomerstein]

preciate it, do u think i should drop the adrol mostly looking for an extra boost in mass gain

yes, its a huge looksmin compound and also you don't even need it if you're on tren

believe me, when you're hitting 5 pound PRs on lateral raises every week you won't think "damn i wish i could be watery as fuck and lose my abs and jawline right now so i can lateral raise the 60s instead of the 55s"

anadrol gains don't stay anywhere near as well as tren when you come off either since it's so water weight based

 

[nakus]

yes, its a huge looksmin compound and also you don't even need it if you're on tren

believe me, when you're hitting 5 pound PRs on lateral raises every week you won't think "damn i wish i could be watery as fuck and lose my abs and jawline right now so i can lateral raise the 60s instead of the 55s"

anadrol gains don't stay anywhere near as well as tren when you come off either since it's so water weight based

preciate it so youd lower the test to around 300 and run 150 tren

 

[zoomerstein]

preciate it so youd lower the test to around 300 and run 150 tren

run test at a low enough level that you don't need an AI and run 100 tren, taper up to 150 ONLY if you handle 100 well (thats why you use acetate, so you can taper up your dosage on a day by day basis), either way you will see great gains

I can run 300-400 test without an AI since i'm a very low aromatizer but i keep it at 200 since the gains difference between 300-400 and 200 is negligible (if using tren) but the aesthetic difference is huge (300+ is worse, bloated)

 

[nakus]

run test at a low enough level that you don't need an AI and run 100 tren, taper up to 150 ONLY if you handle 100 well (thats why you use acetate, so you can taper up your dosage on a day by day basis), either way you will see great gains

I can run 300-400 test without an AI since i'm a very low aromatizer but i keep it at 200 since the gains difference between 300-400 and 200 is negligible (if using tren) but the aesthetic difference is huge (300+ is worse, bloated)

what do you use for ancillaries, mostly worried about the neurotoxicity from tren

 

[zoomerstein]

what do you use for ancillaries, mostly worried about the neurotoxicity from tren

e2 is extremely neuroprotective, all the rat studies on tren neurotoxicity were done on neutered rats who had literally 0 e2, same toxicity doesn't apply if you have mid-high estrogen levels

i do feel a little stupider on tren but its mild and goes away after dropping it
it won't go away if you tank your estrogen with an AI then use tren though lmao