My diet for muh growth spurts

[Deleted member 40105]

Raw milk for its extra macronutrients
Raw meat
Raw salmon
Raw eggs
Raw cheese
Olive oil
Yogurt

^ Macronutrients that support hgh and inhibit somatostatin

Once I’m 6’3 & have wide asf clavicles, ima start eating carbohydrates and processed food when I gymcel.

My clavs are alr wide from genes even tho im 5’9 rn. 15 y/o. I know they can be wider. (17.5 something rn, forgot the units)

I am getting muh growth spurts rn, so gotta take advantage of that.

@Never Get Up @thereallegend

 

[The Homelander]

Once I’m 6’3

im 5’9 rn

Why do you think ur going to be 6'3

 

[Deleted member 40105]

Why do you think ur going to be 6'3

Microfractures & hgh.

Height is 60% genes and 40% environmental.

My height came from transforming gh, not hgh. I’ve had low hgh up until now cuz I was living a sedentary life.

 

[william.]

Raw milk for its extra macronutrients
Raw meat
Raw salmon
Raw eggs
Raw cheese
Olive oil
Yogurt

^ Macronutrients that support hgh and inhibit somatostatin

Once I’m 6’3 & have wide asf clavicles, ima start eating carbohydrates and processed food when I gymcel.

My clavs are alr wide from genes even tho im 5’9 rn. 15 y/o. I know they can be wider. (17.5 something rn, forgot the units)

I am getting muh growth spurts rn, so gotta take advantage of that.

@Never Get Up @thereallegend

where is the raw honeyyy. anyway why dont u eat organs

 

[Deleted member 40105]

Being in ketosis makes me feel sad and lonely.

Fats make me depressed.

 

[Deleted member 40105]

where is the raw honeyyy. anyway why dont u eat organs

Honey spikes glucose levels which inhibits hgh.

Organs are too expensive and out of reach for me.

 

[william.]

Honey spikes glucose levels which inhibits hgh.

bro isnt keeping up

Organs are too expensive and out of reach for me.

its cheap asf. its way cheaper than meat. where do you live?

 

[Zeekie]

Raw milk for its extra macronutrients
Raw meat
Raw salmon
Raw eggs
Raw cheese
Olive oil
Yogurt

^ Macronutrients that support hgh and inhibit somatostatin

Once I’m 6’3 & have wide asf clavicles, ima start eating carbohydrates and processed food when I gymcel.

My clavs are alr wide from genes even tho im 5’9 rn. 15 y/o. I know they can be wider. (17.5 something rn, forgot the units)

I am getting muh growth spurts rn, so gotta take advantage of that.

@Never Get Up @thereallegend

Parasitemaxxing. You're gonna end up in the hospital bro, just cooking the fucking food.

However if you actually go through with this there's a high likelihood you'll grow as long as you make sure you're meeting all of your micronutrient requirements, the only ones I'm worried about though are vitamin C (carnivore bullshit, you need it), manganese, magnesium, folate and vitamin K1.

This is really easy to fix though, supplement magnesium bisglycinate (magnesium), include kiwi (vitamin C and K1, low carbohydrate and GI), and liver (folate and manganese).

 

[Deleted member 40105]

Parasitemaxxing. You're gonna end up in the hospital bro, just cooking the fucking food.

However if you actually go through with this there's a high likelihood you'll grow as long as you make sure you're meeting all of your micronutrient requirements, the only one I'm worried about though are vitamin C (carnivore bullshit, you need it), manganese, magnesium, folate and vitamin K1.

This is really easy to fix though, supplement magnesium bisglycinate (magnesium), include kiwi (vitamin C and K1, low carbohydrate and GI), and liver (folate and manganese).

I’ve eaten raw meat & milk and got a tummy ache before. I was shitting blood.

I’ll cook all the foods, but the milk.

I’ll probably only eat grapes & avacados in the morning so the glucose doesn’t interfere with my evening exercise.

I’m going 0 bread to be in ketosis which supposedly raises hgh levels.

 

[Never Get Up]

People still believe carbs make you taller in 2025.

 

[Never Get Up]

Raw milk for its extra macronutrients
Raw meat
Raw salmon
Raw eggs
Raw cheese
Olive oil
Yogurt

^ Macronutrients that support hgh and inhibit somatostatin

 

[Deleted member 40105]

People still believe carbs make you taller in 2025.

Stunt height from chronic insulin and high glycemic index. That shit inhibits hgh.

 

[Zeekie]

I’ve eaten raw meat & milk and got a tummy ache before. I was shitting blood.

I’ll cook all the foods, but the milk.

I’ll probably only eat grapes & avacados in the morning so the glucose doesn’t interfere with my evening exercise.

I’m going 0 bread to be in ketosis which supposedly raises hgh levels.

So a couple things, yeah please cook your food, drink your raw milk but just be aware, it doesn't have anything special really, raw milk and pasteurized are essentially the same minus a few enzymes and nutrients which are very irrelevant anyways.

Avocados don't take you out of ketosis so you can eat them whenever you want. I wouldn't recommend grapes though, they're very high glycemic index, basically pure sugar and offer very little in terms of nutrition, my advice is some kind of vitamin C fruit like kiwi, oranges or tangerines, kiwis are your best option if you want to stay in ketosis.

Also, ketosis doesn't raise HGH levels, carbs just lower them, so it's not the ketosis itself that getting your HGH higher, it's the lack of carbs. But this only becomes an issue when you eat too many carbs close to bed, what I personally do is that I only eat my carbohydrates close to training, so in my pre-workout meal, and eat a banana and honey close to my workout. HOWEVER, I have my last meal basically as soon as I get home from the gym around 6:00 with low glycemic index and a moderate to low amount of carbs, I eat carbs just to replenish glycogen storage. Since yeah, glucose IS needed for maximum exercise performance.

So what this achieves is 2 things: Since I go to sleep at 9 pm, there is a 4-hour window, so my body can properly digest the food, and even if that meal spikes my insulin a tiny bit by the time I get to bed that peak is gone and the insulin WILL NOT interfere with your growth hormone production. So basically, in short, spiked insulin close to bed lowers your HGH secretion, but it doesn't matter if your insulin spikes at other times of the day.

 

[Deleted member 40105]

So a couple things, yeah please cook your food, drink your raw milk but just be aware, it doesn't have anything special really, raw milk and pasteurized are essentially the same minus a few enzymes and nutrients which are very irrelevant anyways.

Avocados don't take you out of ketosis so you can eat them whenever you want. I wouldn't recommend grapes though, they're very high glycemic index, basically pure sugar and offer very little in terms of nutrition, my advice is some kind of vitamin C fruit like kiwi, oranges or tangerines, kiwis are your best option if you want to stay in ketosis.

Also, ketosis doesn't raise HGH levels, carbs just lower them, so it's not the ketosis itself that getting your HGH higher, it's the lack of carbs. But this only becomes an issue when you eat too many carbs close to bed, what I personally do is that I only eat my carbohydrates close to training, so in my pre-workout meal, and eat a banana and honey close to my workout. HOWEVER, I have my last meal basically as soon as I get home from the gym around 6:00 with low glycemic index and a moderate to low amount of carbs, I eat carbs just to replenish glycogen storage. Since yeah, glucose IS needed for maximum exercise performance.

So what this achieves is 2 things: Since I go to sleep at 9 pm, there is a 4-hour window, so my body can properly digest the food, and even if that meal spikes my insulin a tiny bit by the time I get to bed that peak is gone and the insulin WILL NOT interfere with your growth hormone production. So basically, in short, spiked insulin close to bed lowers your HGH secretion, but it doesn't matter if your insulin spikes at other times of the day.

High IQ. Mirin

Ok, so I’ll eat kiwis and oranges & ditch the grapes.

I workout on an empty stomach.

Shouldn’t the foods I mentioned in OP be enough for glycogen stores whilst inhibiting somatostatin?

 

[Zeekie]

High IQ. Mirin

Ok, so I’ll eat kiwis and oranges & ditch the grapes.

I workout on an empty stomach.

Shouldn’t the foods I mentioned in OP be enough for glycogen stores whilst inhibiting somatostatin?

Working on an empty stomach is fine if you want, worrying about your glycogen stores is also pretty useless if you don't care. If you are working out for fat loss, or general health, don't worry about it, but if you're an athlete or trying to absolutely maximize muscle growth (key word is maximizing, you can want to build muscle, but are you obsessively after it?) then you should eat some kind of carbohydrate after training.

 

[roider72]

Raw milk for its extra macronutrients
Raw meat
Raw salmon
Raw eggs
Raw cheese
Olive oil
Yogurt

^ Macronutrients that support hgh and inhibit somatostatin

Once I’m 6’3 & have wide asf clavicles, ima start eating carbohydrates and processed food when I gymcel.

My clavs are alr wide from genes even tho im 5’9 rn. 15 y/o. I know they can be wider. (17.5 something rn, forgot the units)

I am getting muh growth spurts rn, so gotta take advantage of that.

@Never Get Up @thereallegend

omfg dude just inject roids if ur gonna eat this aswell youll get 10x the results

 

[Deleted member 40105]

Working on an empty stomach is fine if you want, worrying about your glycogen stores is also pretty useless if you don't care. If you are working out for fat loss, or general health, don't worry about it, but if you're an athlete or trying to absolutely maximize muscle growth (key word is maximizing, you can want to build muscle, but are you obsessively after it?) then you should eat some kind of carbohydrate after training.

I’m obsessing over height, not muscle or anything other than that for now

 

[Deleted member 40105]

Working on an empty stomach is fine if you want, worrying about your glycogen stores is also pretty useless if you don't care. If you are working out for fat loss, or general health, don't worry about it, but if you're an athlete or trying to absolutely maximize muscle growth (key word is maximizing, you can want to build muscle, but are you obsessively after it?) then you should eat some kind of carbohydrate after training.

Some carbohydrates?

I exercise very very HIIT at 5:00 pm-6:00 pm

I eat dinner at 7:00 pm

I sleep at 9:30-10:00

 

[shredded4summer]

Raw milk for its extra macronutrients
Raw meat
Raw salmon
Raw eggs
Raw cheese
Olive oil
Yogurt

^ Macronutrients that support hgh and inhibit somatostatin

Once I’m 6’3 & have wide asf clavicles, ima start eating carbohydrates and processed food when I gymcel.

My clavs are alr wide from genes even tho im 5’9 rn. 15 y/o. I know they can be wider. (17.5 something rn, forgot the units)

I am getting muh growth spurts rn, so gotta take advantage of that.

@Never Get Up @thereallegend

instead of eating processed to gymcel just increase milk and add in honey and fruit

also you can gymcel a bit now just do weighted dips and pull ups

 

[Deleted member 40105]

instead of eating processed to gymcel just increase milk and add in honey and fruit

also you can gymcel a bit now just do weighted dips and pull ups

Occasionally I do that to help my spine

 

[Zeekie]

Some carbohydrates?

I exercise very very HIIT at 5:00 pm-6:00 pm

I eat dinner at 7:00 pm

I sleep at 9:30-10:00

I would recommend you include carbohydrates before and HIIT training then. Fruits like mangos, plantains, bananas, even the grapes, paired with honey, you can high glycemic index and fast digesting carbohydrates. After training though you would want a low glycemic index carb from fruit or some starch (like potatoes if you allow it), key word being low glycemic index, you want to minimize the insulin going through your system before bed at all costs.

 

[Deleted member 40105]

I would recommend you include carbohydrates before and HIIT training then. Fruits like mangos, plantains, bananas, even the grapes, paired with honey, you can high glycemic index and fast digesting carbohydrates. After training though you would want a low glycemic index carb from fruit or some starch (like potatoes if you allow it), key word being low glycemic index, you want to minimize the insulin going through your system before bed at all costs.

This.

But doesn’t insulin and or glucose spike before exercise impair hgh being released and secreted. (Like lower amounts?)

 

[Zeekie]

This.

But doesn’t insulin and or glucose spike before exercise impair hgh being released and secreted. (Like lower amounts?)

Yes totally but you're still going to get a huge HGH benefit from HIIT however consider these two things:

1. Without carbohydrates your body won't be able to properly fuel the HIIT training, HIIT is primarily fueled by glucose, if there's very little glucose available the body will be forced to use fat for energy, that has two issues.. First you won't be able to go as hard as you could since fat is very poorly converted into ATP compared to glucose, which all translated into less of an HGH boost if you aren't able to push yourself hard enough, and second is that as carbohydrates diminish and the body is placed under high demands your body will instantly respond by also increasing cortisol, more acutely than normally so your HIIT workout will become much more catabolic than anabolic.

2. Even if your HGH release from sprint is very slightly decreased from carbs that doesn't matter, the increase in HGH after HIIT is very short-lived and almost systematically irrelevant for maximizing height. Yes, it can definitely help, but that release of HGH disappears very quickly, so the time growth hormone is actually having effects on your body is very small, so you won't be getting many gains. Growth hormone does its function best when the release is pulsatory and is long-term, like when you sleep, short bursts of it do help, but not significantly.

IMO you will get many more issues by not eating carbs before HIIT training than you will see benefits, regardless, it's not like you won't release HGH, it will just be in a slightly smaller amount.

 

[Deleted member 40105]

Yes totally but you're still going to get a huge HGH benefit from HIIT however consider these two things:

1. Without carbohydrates your body won't be able to properly fuel the HIIT training, HIIT is primarily fueled by glucose, if there's very little glucose available the body will be forced to use fat for energy, that has two issues.. First you won't be able to go as hard as you could since fat is very poorly converted into ATP compared to glucose, which all translated into less of an HGH boost if you aren't able to push yourself hard enough, and second is that as carbohydrates diminish and the body is placed under high demands your body will instantly respond by also increasing cortisol, more acutely than normally so your HIIT workout will become much more catabolic than anabolic.

2. Even if your HGH release from sprint is very slightly decreased from carbs that doesn't matter, the increase in HGH after HIIT is very short-lived and almost systematically irrelevant for maximizing height. Yes, it can definitely help, but that release of HGH disappears very quickly, so the time growth hormone is actually having effects on your body is very small, so you won't be getting many gains. Growth hormone does its function best when the release is pulsatory and is long-term, like when you sleep, short bursts of it do help, but not significantly.

IMO you will get many more issues by not eating carbs before HIIT training than you will see benefits, regardless, it's not like you won't release HGH, it will just be in a slightly smaller amount.

Fuck, ive been jewed by chatgpt tales and my misinterpretation.

So I should eat bread and fruits pre-workout? Which ones would you recommend? And how much?

 

[Zeekie]

Fuck, ive been jewed by chatgpt tales and my misinterpretation.

So I should eat bread and fruits pre-workout? Which ones would you recommend? And how much?

I would recommend fruits definitely, bread... well if it doesn't cause issues for you and has good ingredients then go for it. Personally I don't consume any bread or grains at all except for white rice. Regardless, you need around 30 to 40g of carbohydrates to boost exercise performance, so a banana and a tablespoon of honey around 30 minutes before you exercise should be plenty as far as pre-workout nutrition goes.

I eat a bigger meal 1 or 2 hours before exercise, where I usually include something like rice for fast-digesting carbohydrates as well. After my workout I usually eat fish, sweet potato and avocado, sweet potato is a much more slowing digesting carbohydrate and has a lower glycemic index so it won't spike your insulin, avocado further helps with this by providing fats that slow down carbohydrate absorption, by the time I get to bed my blood sugar is pretty low (Yes, I've checked).

 

[Deleted member 40105]

I would recommend fruits definitely, bread... well if it doesn't cause issues for you and has good ingredients then go for it. Personally I don't consume any bread or grains at all except for white rice. Regardless, you need around 30 to 40g of carbohydrates to boost exercise performance, so a banana and a tablespoon of honey around 30 minutes before you exercise should be plenty as far as pre-workout nutrition goes.

I eat a bigger meal 1 or 2 hours before exercise, where I usually include something like rice for fast-digesting carbohydrates as well. After my workout I usually eat fish, sweet potato and avocado, sweet potato is a much more slowing digesting carbohydrate and has a lower glycemic index so it won't spike your insulin, avocado further helps with this by providing fats that slow down carbohydrate absorption, by the time I get to bed my blood sugar is pretty low (Yes, I've checked).

Alright, thank you so much man.

Great advice.

I now know what I need to do.

 

[thereallegend]

Honey spikes glucose levels which inhibits hgh.

Organs are too expensive and out of reach for me.

Insulin increases IGF1 which is what matters in the end

 

[thereallegend]

People still believe carbs make you taller in 2025.

You are only 6’0. Wouldn’t even make it on a basketball team.

 

[Deleted member 40105]

Insulin increases IGF1 which is what matters in the end

Yes. Modulating igf-1 through insulin is essential for growth and repair.

I get 25-30% insulin spike from the food listen above in OP. So it doesn't blunt hgh as much as carbs would near sleep time.

 

[Heightpilldealer]

Raw milk for its extra macronutrients
Raw meat
Raw salmon
Raw eggs
Raw cheese
Olive oil
Yogurt

^ Macronutrients that support hgh and inhibit somatostatin

Once I’m 6’3 & have wide asf clavicles, ima start eating carbohydrates and processed food when I gymcel.

My clavs are alr wide from genes even tho im 5’9 rn. 15 y/o. I know they can be wider. (17.5 something rn, forgot the units)

I am getting muh growth spurts rn, so gotta take advantage of that.

@Never Get Up @thereallegend

I just typed my height weight and age into chatgpt and told it give me a diet that boost height growth

 

[Never Get Up]

You are only 6’0. Wouldn’t even make it on a basketball team.

I was fed poison before I was born, while I was in the womb, and during childhood.

My son will be 7ft.

 

[Never Get Up]

I would recommend fruits definitely, bread... well if it doesn't cause issues for you and has good ingredients then go for it. Personally I don't consume any bread or grains at all except for white rice. Regardless, you need around 30 to 40g of carbohydrates to boost exercise performance, so a banana and a tablespoon of honey around 30 minutes before you exercise should be plenty as far as pre-workout nutrition goes.

I eat a bigger meal 1 or 2 hours before exercise, where I usually include something like rice for fast-digesting carbohydrates as well. After my workout I usually eat fish, sweet potato and avocado, sweet potato is a much more slowing digesting carbohydrate and has a lower glycemic index so it won't spike your insulin, avocado further helps with this by providing fats that slow down carbohydrate absorption, by the time I get to bed my blood sugar is pretty low (Yes, I've checked).

You have a low IQ.

 

[Zeekie]

You have a low IQ.

No, I just actually know about exercise performance and nutrition.

 

[Never Get Up]

No, I just actually know about exercise performance and nutrition.

 

[wesgibbins300]

Raw milk for its extra macronutrients
Raw meat
Raw salmon
Raw eggs
Raw cheese
Olive oil
Yogurt

^ Macronutrients that support hgh and inhibit somatostatin

Once I’m 6’3 & have wide asf clavicles, ima start eating carbohydrates and processed food when I gymcel.

My clavs are alr wide from genes even tho im 5’9 rn. 15 y/o. I know they can be wider. (17.5 something rn, forgot the units)

I am getting muh growth spurts rn, so gotta take advantage of that.

@Never Get Up @thereallegend

lol height is all genetic cope and peptidemaxx

 

[asdvek]

Parasitemaxxing. You're gonna end up in the hospital bro, just cooking the fucking food.

However if you actually go through with this there's a high likelihood you'll grow as long as you make sure you're meeting all of your micronutrient requirements, the only ones I'm worried about though are vitamin C (carnivore bullshit, you need it), manganese, magnesium, folate and vitamin K1.

This is really easy to fix though, supplement magnesium bisglycinate (magnesium), include kiwi (vitamin C and K1, low carbohydrate and GI), and liver (folate and manganese).

You do realise that humans lack the digestive system to convert Vitamin K1 into K2 so it's basically useless..?

 

[mewcel420]

Parasitemaxxing. You're gonna end up in the hospital bro, just cooking the fucking food.

However if you actually go through with this there's a high likelihood you'll grow as long as you make sure you're meeting all of your micronutrient requirements, the only ones I'm worried about though are vitamin C (carnivore bullshit, you need it), manganese, magnesium, folate and vitamin K1.

This is really easy to fix though, supplement magnesium bisglycinate (magnesium), include kiwi (vitamin C and K1, low carbohydrate and GI), and liver (folate and manganese).

Vit c you need much less of if you don't eat much carbs, besides foods like raw meat and raw milk have the fully formed vitamin c instead of plant vitamin c which needs to be converted. K1 is useless for humans. I do agree that some fruit would be good, but it´s not required.

 

[Zeekie]

You do realise that humans lack the digestive system to convert Vitamin K1 into K2 so it's basically useless..?

Uh, that's wrong? We can convert K1 into Mk-4, maybe not 7 or 9 which we have to get from diet, but we're able to convert it at least into short-chain Vitamin K2.

Regardless, both vitamin K1 and K2 have functions in our body, there's a reason why they're both vitamins, medicine determined them as such for a reason, and trying to deny that would be going against decades of medical science. They both essentially do the same thing, but K1 is more strongly associated with blood clotting functions while K2 serves mainly in calcium metabolites, neither can replace the other.

 

[asdvek]

Uh, that's wrong? We can convert K1 into Mk-4, maybe not 7 or 9 which we have to get from diet, but we're able to convert it at least into short-chain Vitamin K2.

Regardless, both vitamin K1 and K2 have functions in our body, there's a reason why they're both vitamins, medicine determined them as such for a reason, and trying to deny that would be going against decades of medical science. They both essentially do the same thing, but K1 is more strongly associated with blood clotting functions while K2 serves mainly in calcium metabolites, neither can replace the other.

No, humans can not convert K1 into K2.

Vitamin K1 is absolutely useless for humans, its useful for animals only.

 

[Zeekie]

Vit c you need much less of if you don't eat much carbs, besides foods like raw meat and raw milk have the fully formed vitamin c instead of plant vitamin c which needs to be converted. K1 is useless for humans. I do agree that some fruit would be good, but it´s not required.

Do you need less vitamin C when in a low-carb diet? Who knows? Probably not, that's a fact, it's a carnivore hypothesis and so far there have been no relevant studies on the subject, and while the supposed mechanism that justifies needing lower requirements for vitamin C on a low-carb/carnivore diet are somewhat reasonably, to me (and really anyone knowing a thing or two about nutrition) it seems more like a way to justify the carnivore diet. Regardless, glucose may compensate with vitamin C for absorption with GLUT, but ignoring the fact that the primary transporter of vitamin C in our bodies isn't that, we're still going to have issues with antioxidant capacity, immune support and creating collagen.

Regarding vitamin C... There's no animal-based or plant-based vitamin C, it's all the same molecule, ascorbic acid, regardless of the source. You may be confused with vitamin A? Beta-carotene is the "plant-based" form of vitamin A that needs to be converted by the body into retinol to be usable, but that's not the case with vitamin C.

K1 and K2 are both needed for proper function. K1 and K2 both do similar things, which is why we call them both Vitamin K, but they specialize on different things. K1 has primary functions in blood clotting and it's ability to help metabolize calcium is very poor. Similarly, K2 has functions in calcium metabolism but it's ability to help blood clot is very bad. Not interchangeable, you need both.

I'm sorry but the carnivore diet will never sit right with me from a nutrition standpoint and a performance standpoint. Made the huge mistake of thinking "carnivore would boost my testosterone bro" when I was doing competitive BJJ and switched to carnivore, suddenly I started getting my ass beat more often... Simply carnivore isn't ideal for physical performance or nutrition, we're omnivores by nature, we evolved that way, our bodies are designed to process both animal and plant products, no reason to quit either of those.

 

[Zeekie]

No, humans can not convert K1 into K2.

Vitamin K1 is absolutely useless for humans, its useful for animals only.

Again, our bodies can convert K1 into K2 through modification of the isoprenoid side chain of vitamin K1, is it an efficient conversion? No, like any time our body has to turn one thing into another, there's always going to be some amount of loss, but "it's not efficient" is very different from saying our bodies can't do something.

This isn't like, me making stuff up, that's the way our body works, it's a established part of our metabolism, you can go read any book, article or ask any medical professional and you're getting the same response.

Also... "it's useful only for animals"

 

[asdvek]

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Again, our bodies can convert K1 into K2 through modification of the isoprenoid side chain of vitamin K1, is it an efficient conversion? No, like any time our body has to turn one thing into another, there's always going to be some amount of loss, but "it's not efficient" is very different from saying our bodies can't do something.

This isn't like, me making stuff up, that's the way our body works, it's a established part of our metabolism, you can go read any book, article or ask any medical professional and you're getting the same response.

Also... "it's useful only for animals"
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No, we can not convert it.

 

[Zeekie]

No, we can not convert it.

Crazy