My entire looksmaxxing plan

[if6wasnt9]

INTRO:
To start off ive been 17 for 4 months, 6'3, like 145 jfl, punjabi (jatt), and my waist to bidelt is like 1.77, face is pretty long/downward grown and recessed, bad acne scars from cystic acne like freshman year.

Bolded the main stuff the rest is mostly yap tbh
Pls give a read/give input, mostly on the test cycle. ik its a lot but anything helps. I'm just trying to figure stuff out and get tf off of this forum. I miss how NT I was when I didn't know abt this
Srry abt formatting I'm just spewing stuff out

PHYSIQUE:
Havent really been consistent with the gym, focused on school and stuff but I also do get lazy hopefully gonna be more consistent
500 test , an AI, a DHT blocker maybe because I don't know if DHT still benefit me, HGH, and something so I don't go bald like minoxidil.
My main goal is to just get a better frame and more bone mass in my face (grey ik)
Im still reading about it but Im fairly sure I want to start a cycle. Main concern is the side effects that I would get later in life don't wanna mess anything up.
Massai jumps and hang weight off my legs to lengthen them (probably cope but nothing to lose) hopefully roid hgh and roids make me taller.

SKULL:
Jew doctors made me get 4 teeth extractions and braces for my narrow pallete. I got an expander early on but they didn't even expand shit, still brutally narrow.
My face is very downward grown and recessed due to shitty posture and mouth breathing. Covid me probably got the worst of it.
MSE + FACEMASK, trying to fix my terrible recession and fix narrow palette (airway benefits aswell). facemask might be cope but I have nothing to lose, anything but surgery. Better than surgery IMO because the rest of your skull wont change and you wont get the same benefits.
A mask that doesn't rest on the mandible because I've seen it cause mandible recession like that.
1kg force on each band so 2kg in total maybe like -15 degrees from the occlusal plane because I heard it still might contribute to a CCW rotation of the maxilla when the bands are connected to the back of the mse.
HGH to help as a relaxant for the sutures in my skull to allow more movement.

Softmaxxing stuff:
Hard mewing and chin tucks
Bonesmashing, on chin and zygos. (again probably cope but nothing to lose)
Eye workouts, squinting n stuff, also others to fix my slight lazy eye.

DIET:
Shit load of random supplements
Cutting out all processed sugar/carbs
Creatine, probably, heard it increases DHT though still worried abt that
More meat and stuff, try to fix gut health.
No junk food.
I honestly just eat whatever my mom makes
(tried eating 3500 calories for like 2 weeks and lost weight JFL, been eating like 2 meals recently and ended up gaining weight???)

FACE:
My acne isn't bad anymore tbh my skins always clear whenever I use a cleanser. (took some unprescribed isotretinoin freshman-sophmore year which cleared alot)
Facial cleanser + Sunscreen lotion is all I use
Volufiline on eye area and lips
Rosemary oil for eyebrows and eyelashes
Microneedling/Derma pen for acne scars (try to build collagen in that area) going to a dermatologist appointment soon.
LemonBottle maybe once I see how my face changes after MSE and Facemask

LIFESTYLE:
Just better posture tbh
Hopefully being NT again after ascending
Im already active I play sports and all that, might do more sprints
For sure more gym

But yeah that's about it, again anything helps. This is basically what I have figured out after rotting on forums.

 

[barnmatrix]

Hey bro, it seems your pretty on point with the softmaxing stuff but as far as the cycle with test and GH your somewhat right but there are some misconceptions like GH doesnt relax the sutures in your skull, but it will increase osteolific bone differentiation, which will improve your facial structure. If you want me to build you a custom stack id be happy to do so, dm me on telegram @ barnmatrix as im more active on there.

 

[if6wasnt9]

Hey bro, it seems your pretty on point with the softmaxing stuff but as far as the cycle with test and GH your somewhat right but there are some misconceptions like GH doesnt relax the sutures in your skull, but it will increase osteolific bone differentiation, which will improve your facial structure. If you want me to build you a custom stack id be happy to do so, dm me on telegram @ barnmatrix as im more active on there.

I read somewhere on a forum where someone was talking about HGH Peptide usage as a relaxant for the sutures when using MSE + Facemask, no clue. Ill msg tho thank you.

 

[if6wasnt9]

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[Pop23]

DHT blocker maybe because I don't know if DHT still benefit me

If you're gonna DHT block use the topical version of finastride so mostly only your scalp gets effected. If you can't get one, don't block your DHT until you're atleast 20 years old.

 

[if6wasnt9]

If you're gonna DHT block use the topical version of finastride so mostly only your scalp gets effected. If you can't get one, don't block your DHT until you're atleast 20 years old.

oh alright thank u i was wondering like what age dht stops becoming useful

 

[if6wasnt9]

update im not doing mse and facemask shits 20k for some bullshit I'm belt pulling for forward growth and thumbpulling to widen my maxilla till my face falls off, undeniable proof thumb pulling actually widens ur maxilla if ur consistent if u say its cope then ur just too lazy to do it, maybe zygo pushing or whatever other shit jordan woods doing

 

[OldBones]

update im not doing mse and facemask shits 20k for some bullshit I'm belt pulling for forward growth and thumbpulling to widen my maxilla till my face falls off, undeniable proof thumb pulling actually widens ur maxilla if ur consistent if u say its cope then ur just too lazy to do it, maybe zygo pushing or whatever other shit jordan woods doing

All cope

 

[illicit]

All cope

i js know ur ltn

 

[OldBones]

i js know ur ltn

I’m mid mtn so I’m not gl obviously but how does that matter? Muh thumb pulling jfl

 

[EthiopianMaxxer]

Seems pretty good but a lot of sunscreen lotions are not very effective unless they have 40+ SPF. If it has under 40, I recommend to use a sunscreen (try find a 45+ SPF one) and moisturizer separately.

 

[Loruki]

schizo pseudoscience crazies from the asylum of osteogenesis

 

[Axhar1]

update im not doing mse and facemask shits 20k for some bullshit I'm belt pulling for forward growth and thumbpulling to widen my maxilla till my face falls off, undeniable proof thumb pulling actually widens ur maxilla if ur consistent if u say its cope then ur just too lazy to do it, maybe zygo pushing or whatever other shit jordan woods doing

i thought you were a high iq boyo but you ended up being an indian tiktok retard
A facepuller working 12-14hours on you can barely if lucky give you a mm of maxillary growth but thumbpulling 5min daily = 8mm forward growth

 

[if6wasnt9]

i thought you were a high iq boyo but you ended up being an indian tiktok retard
A facepuller working 12-14hours on you can barely if lucky give you a mm of maxillary growth but thumbpulling 5min daily = 8mm forward growth

who cares if it doesnt work i might aswell try?? doing it for 2 mins every hour is nothing not like it requires an insane amount of effort plus facemask would ruin ur quality of life probably. the force exerted is only 2kg from a facemask ur arms and thumb can exert way more. There isn't scientific evidence backing up thumbpulling because all the evidence is anecdotal and that's enough for me lol.
Changing my thoughts tho because I realized my problem isn't a recessed maxilla really my face is just sunken in from premolar extractions so surgery the only bet tbh

 

[sellatine]

INTRO:
To start off ive been 17 for 4 months, 6'3, like 145 jfl, punjabi (jatt), and my waist to bidelt is like 1.77, face is pretty long/downward grown and recessed, bad acne scars from cystic acne like freshman year.

Bolded the main stuff the rest is mostly yap tbh
Pls give a read/give input, mostly on the test cycle. ik its a lot but anything helps. I'm just trying to figure stuff out and get tf off of this forum. I miss how NT I was when I didn't know abt this
Srry abt formatting I'm just spewing stuff out

PHYSIQUE:
Havent really been consistent with the gym, focused on school and stuff but I also do get lazy hopefully gonna be more consistent
500 test , an AI, a DHT blocker maybe because I don't know if DHT still benefit me, HGH, and something so I don't go bald like minoxidil.
My main goal is to just get a better frame and more bone mass in my face (grey ik)
Im still reading about it but Im fairly sure I want to start a cycle. Main concern is the side effects that I would get later in life don't wanna mess anything up.
Massai jumps and hang weight off my legs to lengthen them (probably cope but nothing to lose) hopefully roid hgh and roids make me taller.

SKULL:
Jew doctors made me get 4 teeth extractions and braces for my narrow pallete. I got an expander early on but they didn't even expand shit, still brutally narrow.
My face is very downward grown and recessed due to shitty posture and mouth breathing. Covid me probably got the worst of it.
MSE + FACEMASK, trying to fix my terrible recession and fix narrow palette (airway benefits aswell). facemask might be cope but I have nothing to lose, anything but surgery. Better than surgery IMO because the rest of your skull wont change and you wont get the same benefits.
A mask that doesn't rest on the mandible because I've seen it cause mandible recession like that.
1kg force on each band so 2kg in total maybe like -15 degrees from the occlusal plane because I heard it still might contribute to a CCW rotation of the maxilla when the bands are connected to the back of the mse.
HGH to help as a relaxant for the sutures in my skull to allow more movement.

Softmaxxing stuff:
Hard mewing and chin tucks
Bonesmashing, on chin and zygos. (again probably cope but nothing to lose)
Eye workouts, squinting n stuff, also others to fix my slight lazy eye.

DIET:
Shit load of random supplements
Cutting out all processed sugar/carbs
Creatine, probably, heard it increases DHT though still worried abt that
More meat and stuff, try to fix gut health.
No junk food.
I honestly just eat whatever my mom makes
(tried eating 3500 calories for like 2 weeks and lost weight JFL, been eating like 2 meals recently and ended up gaining weight???)

FACE:
My acne isn't bad anymore tbh my skins always clear whenever I use a cleanser. (took some unprescribed isotretinoin freshman-sophmore year which cleared alot)
Facial cleanser + Sunscreen lotion is all I use
Volufiline on eye area and lips
Rosemary oil for eyebrows and eyelashes
Microneedling/Derma pen for acne scars (try to build collagen in that area) going to a dermatologist appointment soon.
LemonBottle maybe once I see how my face changes after MSE and Facemask

LIFESTYLE:
Just better posture tbh
Hopefully being NT again after ascending
Im already active I play sports and all that, might do more sprints
For sure more gym

But yeah that's about it, again anything helps. This is basically what I have figured out after rotting on forums.

im in the same boat as you. Dont be fooled by this website, dont do fucking test youre fucking up your test production at 17 which is plain out retarded. If you cant be consistent with the gym why even fucking run that shit. It wont create bone mass that was never their either lol will just maek you more dimorphic and will fuck your development up and give you gyno.

 

[if6wasnt9]

im in the same boat as you. Dont be fooled by this website, dont do fucking test youre fucking up your test production at 17 which is plain out retarded. If you cant be consistent with the gym why even fucking run that shit. It wont create bone mass that was never their either lol will just maek you more dimorphic and will fuck your development up and give you gyno.

yea idk it does seem pretty risky, but if done right with like proper precautions then maybe it could be safe idk cus most peoples test levels are extremely low overall so as long as its not overdone to unnatural levels it could be okay??

 

[sellatine]

yea idk it does seem pretty risky, but if done right with like proper precautions then maybe it could be safe idk cus most peoples test levels are extremely low overall so as long as its not overdone to unnatural levels it could be okay??

its fine but not worth fucking your life up for

 

[Axhar1]

who cares if it doesnt work i might aswell try?? doing it for 2 mins every hour is nothing not like it requires an insane amount of effort plus facemask would ruin ur quality of life probably. the force exerted is only 2kg from a facemask ur arms and thumb can exert way more. There isn't scientific evidence backing up thumbpulling because all the evidence is anecdotal and that's enough for me lol.
Changing my thoughts tho because I realized my problem isn't a recessed maxilla really my face is just sunken in from premolar extractions so surgery the only bet tbh

a cope a day keeps the rope away
dont expect any real results, do it for the fun of it (ig)
most importantly do not believe everything you see on tiktok