mrfishy22
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Hey everyone — I wanted to share my experience going through high school as a real “subhuman.” Maybe some of you can relate, or at least find it interesting.
I didn’t learn about looksmaxing or BP until after high school. During high school, I was completely blue-pilled and unaware of how much my appearance was affecting my experience. I absolutely hated school but didn’t even understand why or what I was doing wrong. I wasn’t directly bullied — my school had very strict anti-bullying policies — but people definitely made comments about my facial appearance. At the time, I didn’t fully grasp why this was happening.
In group projects, especially with girls, they would do everything possible to avoid one-on-one interaction with me. Sometimes even guys would do the same. I noticed a lot of people seemed to dislike me for no clear reason, which confused me back then. It wasn’t just students either — some teachers seemed to overreact to things like me being late or on my phone, while better-looking students would get away with the same behavior.
Ironically, I tried hard to be social. I talked a lot and made an effort to engage with people. Looking back, that was probably a mistake. If I could go back, I honestly wouldn’t say a word unless absolutely necessary. Most of the time, people seemed annoyed when I tried to join conversations or make comments. I genuinely believed I just had an irritating personality until I later learned about BP.
During junior year, I finally found a friend group. They were definitely more on the nerdy side, but at least they were real-life friends instead of just Discord friends. When it came to girls, I made some effort, especially after junior year, but I was usually ignored and rarely had extended conversations. I remember when my new friend group or anyone I was with would talk about girls, they automatically assumed I had zero experience just based on how I looked and would subtly leave me out of those conversations.
There were a few moments that stand out. In gym class, a kid I didn’t even know asked how I could have the parents I have and still look “like that.” My parents are both somewhat attractive and have social media, so I guess he found their accounts. Another time, I called someone’s haircut ugly and he replied, “Look who’s talking — your whole face is.” That was probably the most direct insult I ever received, and I still somehow COPED through it. Small indirect comments on my looks happened almost daily. I was just convinced myself it was because I was annoying or lacked social skills.
Update: I’m 20 now and have done some amount of looksmaxing. Before my recent hardmax procedures, I had just had minor Botox, small amounts of filler, plus gymceling with a bit of mk677 for bulk and peptides like Reta for my cut made a massive difference. I’d say I reached solid HLTN. You can argue HLTN isn’t great — and it isn’t — but compared to being subhuman, it’s a completely different life. I was able to slay somewhat regularly, form real friendships, integrate into groups easily, have fun at college parties, not constantly get ignored, and most importantly, the constant small insults about my appearance disappeared.
I recently hardmaxed and am still in recovery, so I’m swollen and a bit uncanny at the moment. But once I fully heal, I’m hoping I can reach a solid MTN. After I heal up
I’m hopping on a test cycle of 500 test as well to take my physique to the next level. It’s crazy how the difference in treatment between subhuman and HLTN is bigger than the difference between MTN and Chadlite.
I’ve attached photos from my high school “subhuman era.” My physique back then was classic low-T skinny-fat, and I was around 5'7"–5'8". I’m now about 5'10.5"–5'11". The first three photos are from high school; the next four are from my m-hltn era. You can check my other posts for my current look, but I’m leaving that out for now until I’ve fully healed.
Subhuman Era
M-hltn era
I didn’t learn about looksmaxing or BP until after high school. During high school, I was completely blue-pilled and unaware of how much my appearance was affecting my experience. I absolutely hated school but didn’t even understand why or what I was doing wrong. I wasn’t directly bullied — my school had very strict anti-bullying policies — but people definitely made comments about my facial appearance. At the time, I didn’t fully grasp why this was happening.
In group projects, especially with girls, they would do everything possible to avoid one-on-one interaction with me. Sometimes even guys would do the same. I noticed a lot of people seemed to dislike me for no clear reason, which confused me back then. It wasn’t just students either — some teachers seemed to overreact to things like me being late or on my phone, while better-looking students would get away with the same behavior.
Ironically, I tried hard to be social. I talked a lot and made an effort to engage with people. Looking back, that was probably a mistake. If I could go back, I honestly wouldn’t say a word unless absolutely necessary. Most of the time, people seemed annoyed when I tried to join conversations or make comments. I genuinely believed I just had an irritating personality until I later learned about BP.
During junior year, I finally found a friend group. They were definitely more on the nerdy side, but at least they were real-life friends instead of just Discord friends. When it came to girls, I made some effort, especially after junior year, but I was usually ignored and rarely had extended conversations. I remember when my new friend group or anyone I was with would talk about girls, they automatically assumed I had zero experience just based on how I looked and would subtly leave me out of those conversations.
There were a few moments that stand out. In gym class, a kid I didn’t even know asked how I could have the parents I have and still look “like that.” My parents are both somewhat attractive and have social media, so I guess he found their accounts. Another time, I called someone’s haircut ugly and he replied, “Look who’s talking — your whole face is.” That was probably the most direct insult I ever received, and I still somehow COPED through it. Small indirect comments on my looks happened almost daily. I was just convinced myself it was because I was annoying or lacked social skills.
Update: I’m 20 now and have done some amount of looksmaxing. Before my recent hardmax procedures, I had just had minor Botox, small amounts of filler, plus gymceling with a bit of mk677 for bulk and peptides like Reta for my cut made a massive difference. I’d say I reached solid HLTN. You can argue HLTN isn’t great — and it isn’t — but compared to being subhuman, it’s a completely different life. I was able to slay somewhat regularly, form real friendships, integrate into groups easily, have fun at college parties, not constantly get ignored, and most importantly, the constant small insults about my appearance disappeared.
I recently hardmaxed and am still in recovery, so I’m swollen and a bit uncanny at the moment. But once I fully heal, I’m hoping I can reach a solid MTN. After I heal up
I’m hopping on a test cycle of 500 test as well to take my physique to the next level. It’s crazy how the difference in treatment between subhuman and HLTN is bigger than the difference between MTN and Chadlite.
I’ve attached photos from my high school “subhuman era.” My physique back then was classic low-T skinny-fat, and I was around 5'7"–5'8". I’m now about 5'10.5"–5'11". The first three photos are from high school; the next four are from my m-hltn era. You can check my other posts for my current look, but I’m leaving that out for now until I’ve fully healed.
Subhuman Era
M-hltn era
